Mark O’Neill resigns (fired)

[GoldXR50Leroy]

The unfortunate event occurred at a sanctioned Wests Tigers event for administrive staff so someone has to ask, what happened to the RSA, for Mark to have done what was allegded then the person that kept plying him with booze should be held accountable.

Yeah that's right lookto blame others not the offender

The whole reason why there is a RSA is to prevent 1/ the customer being incapable of reasonable behaviour and 2/to absolve the service staff of any misbehaviour relating to customers misbehaviour.

While I like a drop or 2 I know my limits but unfortunately not all of us do, when I have reached my limit I discreetly leave so as not to sully my reputation.

 

[Gazman]

TT joined in 2014 O'Neill became GM in 2016 I thought , so if it was him he still has ear to the club

 

[happy_tiger]

i know what happened. it is fact he answered his door for p.a in inappropriate clothing

If this is true their must have been more than one offence

As bad as any offence is , he has the right to redeem himself

Unfortunately have been involved in some harassment situations in the past (not myself personally ) and as bad as some have been no one has been terminated by HR directly

The club would have had to protect his anonymity and would have risked serious legal issues from O'Neill himself if one word spilled out

Had to be multiple issues or he has decided to quit

No way the club could of forced him to resign

 

[snowleopard]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

 

[pezza103]

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[pezza103]

ban me please

 

[pezza103]

who the [This word has been automatically removed] appointed him ?

 

[snowleopard]

That would be a recommendation from the CEO and approved by the Board. I

 

[happy_tiger]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

I know every workplace is different Snow , but in the modern day all employees have their rights

If O"Neill had wanted to stay he could have

I obviously can't talk too much about specifics , but one particular situation I had to deal with we had two different situations

In a sense its seen as no different than testing positive when doing a random alcohol / drug tests at your work place

The employer must try and offer rehab to the offender as well as they offended

If not hell could break lose in any workplace , a person overhears a joke they find offensive and they could have that employee terminated …....

 

[snowleopard]

Yeah I know . Had a case the other day where a woman raised a sexual harassment claim cause a guy said in a meeting "you know what it means if a man has big feet" true story. With buckets it would have gone down like this . You resign and we pay you x months salary . Don't resign and this will go to court and if you lose you will have to pay both sides costs. My reading of the situation is he knows he made a mistake and would be found guilty on the advice of his lawyer so he decided to Go.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yeah I know . Had a case the other day where a woman raised a sexual harassment claim cause a guy said in a meeting "you know what it means if a man has big feet" true story. With buckets it would have gone down like this . You resign and we pay you x months salary . Don't resign and this will go to court and if you lose you will have to pay both sides costs. My reading of the situation is he knows he made a mistake and would be found guilty on the advice of his lawyer so he decided to Go.

Sorry Snow your missing my point

If it is as White said she /he couldn't have taken it to court or if she did it would of been a misdemeanour at best

Something else had to have happened , that's my point and even then O'Neill could have fought it out

 

[Benjirific]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

 

[snowleopard]

Hmmm am guessing no Balmain

 

[happy_tiger]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

Which must suggest that it is far worse than what is being reported and had been multiple situations

O'Neill could take the club for everything including the kitchen sink otherwise …..

 

[snowleopard]

Sorry Snow your missing my point

If it is as White said she /he couldn't have taken it to court or if she did it would of been a misdemeanour at best

Something else had to have happened , that's my point and even then O'Neill could have fought it out

Really depends on what he did and to whom. Interesting reading benjrific feedback cause if he is right we are in big trouble if someone can get to a director and change the "ruling" of the CEO and the Chairperson . For us after so much instability that is reall scary

 

[Tiger4life]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

If this is true, that Pascoe dealt with it then JT wanted more done , than gee our coach has a long memory and likes to hold grudges.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

The unfortunate event occurred at a sanctioned Wests Tigers event for administrive staff so someone has to ask, what happened to the RSA, for Mark to have done what was allegded then the person that kept plying him with booze should be held accountable.

Please it is called personal responsibility ,O'neil is an adult held a responsible position within the club. Who cares what happened that is his problem, hopefully moving forward the club will fill the position with someone outside of the club that will act in a mature and professional manner in a work and social environment this job for the boys ethic has to STOP!.

I am in favour of suitable ex-players getting jobs providing they were goers for the Club. They carry many injuries afterwards that can be allowed for by the Club. Footballers have short career in footie and when aged in early thirties would be difficult to begin an alternative career.

About 20 years told I was told that Tommy was selling tomatoes at Flemo markets - I would have preferred him having a job around the club instead if was interested.

 

[snowleopard]

Or has the support at director level to return is to the dark ages . Interesting to know where Benjirifoc got his info from?

 

[sideline_eye]

Don't agree mate as have seen this happen many times especially when there is a female CEO or Chairperson. While you were on "leave " there were comments about RF making sexist comments and being in trouble with Go so I reckon if buckets did something wrong involving a female staff member he would get the bullet. Is it right ? In a male dominated environment probably would have been swept under the carpet but things have changed a lot now so I reckon he has made a mistake and as Willow said will pay for it for the rest of his life.

The worst thing with this story is it was dealt with internally by Pascoe, he was given as harsh a punishment without being punted as you will get, and Go agreed & signed off on it. When JT got word of it all, he complained to another board member who has brought it all up again and demanded O'Neill get the punt. Doesn't take much to guess which side of the board that person was from….

If this is true, that Pascoe dealt with it then JT wanted more done , than gee our coach has a long memory and likes to hold grudges.

If what you are saying is true (and I have serious doubts), it would have gone to a board meeting at which the majority voted for him to be allowed to resign. This isn't a Wests/Balmain thing, it is a simple matter of misbehaviour by a senior manager. JT had him sacked via some back door route? Nobody ever went to the moon? Give me a break. All this happened after an independent investigation.

 

[snowleopard]

Good post ! Suppose cause of the past issues I get nervous about corporate governance at our club and probably more so now with one shareholder holding so much power and because of the way the cards have fallen with Balmain rightfully so. Guess we just got to trust the current board to lead us to a premiership? With every failure it presents another opportunity so wonder who/if they will replace him with?