Marquee Signing

@happy_tiger said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370547) said:
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Did mention that Simpkin would be 18 months away


Yes but some people on here demand instant success or you are a dud/failure.You need patience with nearly all young players and Simkin is no different.
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370505) said:
I think we all need to cool our heels a bit on the hysteria for Walsh, Walker and Suaalii etc. They're obviously talented. Fair enough. But, smart coaches can limit their influence, as shown by the job TPJr did on Walker last night. I think to be labelling them as "marquee" at this stage is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion. Ask Zac Cini how quickly the fall from penthouse to out-house can be.

That's classic second-year syndrome. First year they burst onto the scene, second year the other coaches now have 12 months of video om them.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370468) said:
@earl said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1369706) said:
We definitely need a marquee signing but I don't like the idea of going out and buying one. I'd prefer going after junior talent like Walsh or Ponga when he went to the Knights.

It's more of a risk but we tend to stuff up by paying marquee dollars and getting plodders.

I'd love us to get a signing like that Walsh kid.

We’ve been doing that but everyone wants them dropped after an average game or bad gam! They expect perfection from the first game. Laurie is our walsh and Walker.

Agree with the Laurie comment but he’s not in those two’s league ... well not yet anyway
 
@happy_tiger said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370547) said:
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Did mention that Simpkin would be 18 months away

Walker and Walsh aren’t. Farah wasn’t at the same age. Usually if a player needs time, he’ll still show you glimpses. He hasn’t shown any imo.
 
@tigerblood93 said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370468) said:
@earl said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1369706) said:
We definitely need a marquee signing but I don't like the idea of going out and buying one. I'd prefer going after junior talent like Walsh or Ponga when he went to the Knights.

It's more of a risk but we tend to stuff up by paying marquee dollars and getting plodders.

I'd love us to get a signing like that Walsh kid.

We’ve been doing that but everyone wants them dropped after an average game or bad gam! They expect perfection from the first game. Laurie is our walsh and Walker.

Exactly. Sam Walker is currently a huge defensive liability and with so many regulars out the Roosters could not cover for him against the Broncos. The Bronco's also targeted him when they were defending and he was a lot less confident and effective.

All new good players go through this and only the truly great ones can preform when they are the main focus of the opposition. That is why I think it is better to have a team of very good players working together than a team of averages players with 1 or 2 stars.
 
@blake said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370623) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370468) said:
@earl said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1369706) said:
We definitely need a marquee signing but I don't like the idea of going out and buying one. I'd prefer going after junior talent like Walsh or Ponga when he went to the Knights.

It's more of a risk but we tend to stuff up by paying marquee dollars and getting plodders.

I'd love us to get a signing like that Walsh kid.

We’ve been doing that but everyone wants them dropped after an average game or bad gam! They expect perfection from the first game. Laurie is our walsh and Walker.

Exactly. Sam Walker is currently a huge defensive liability and with so many regulars out the Roosters could not cover for him against the Broncos. The Bronco's also targeted him in attack and he was a lot less confident and effective.

All new good players go through this and only the truly great ones can preform when they are the main focus of the opposition. That is why I think it is better to have a team of very good players working together than a team of averages players with 1 or 2 stars.

Was shocking last night
 
@tigerwest said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370560) said:
@twentyforty said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370504) said:
Who would you go after? Which player would be worthy of 11% of our cap? What expectations would you have of such a player? In what way would he influence team performance?

Tommy Turbo for me, I would make him offer he couldn’t refuse. My expectations would be he would give us the drive and go forward we are currently lacking.
Look what he does to Manly, from easy beats to final 4 since he been on the park.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful but no amount of money will take him away from Manly and his brother - they will both be Sea Eagles for life. The only hope would be if he was in his mid thirties, at the end of his career and Manly wanted to offload him - then we’d be first in line to sign him ?
 
@gcfan said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370609) said:
@tigerblood93 said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370468) said:
@earl said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1369706) said:
We definitely need a marquee signing but I don't like the idea of going out and buying one. I'd prefer going after junior talent like Walsh or Ponga when he went to the Knights.

It's more of a risk but we tend to stuff up by paying marquee dollars and getting plodders.

I'd love us to get a signing like that Walsh kid.

We’ve been doing that but everyone wants them dropped after an average game or bad gam! They expect perfection from the first game. Laurie is our walsh and Walker.

Agree with the Laurie comment but he’s not in those two’s league ... well not yet anyway

He would be if he was playing at the back of a team that played with some sort of structure and passion every week. That he is the stand out in our mob each week at his young age makes him better than both Walker and Walsh imo.
 
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Simpkin has been very disappointing. He looked lost when he came on against the warriors.
 
@merlot said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1369490) said:
best way out is 2 make our own at this point in time,im itchin 2 see how mavoni ,kei cooper etc progress.Taipari,is the next wonder kin,in the halve's.

C'mon,Taipari is long odds to ever play first grade. Only played a handful of NSW cup games as there's so many players ahead of him
 
@tigerpower said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370660) said:
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Simpkin has been very disappointing. He looked lost when he came on against the warriors.

That’s pretty much like most of his games in KOEC. So far I am underwhelmed.
 
We’ve improved our recruitment, but we’re still missing the key ones.

Reece Walsh is one example. Maybe we already had Laurie, but they were looking for an RTS replacement for maybe a few months, and they found Walsh. We’ve been trying to replace Teddy for 4 years.

I agree we need a marquee, but paying someone established upwards of 1M per season is not the answer.

We need to find the people who can find the Walkers, Walshes, Suallis before other clubs.
 
@weststigerman said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370695) said:
We’ve improved our recruitment, but we’re still missing the key ones.

Reece Walsh is one example. Maybe we already had Laurie, but they were looking for an RTS replacement for maybe a few months, and they found Walsh. We’ve been trying to replace Teddy for 4 years.

I agree we need a marquee, but paying someone established upwards of 1M per season is not the answer.

We need to find the people who can find the Walkers, Walshes, Suallis before other clubs.

We tried to grab Walsh but only offered up Walters.... what a dumb move. Should’ve given the Broncos Mbye instead.
 
Nicho Hyes *could* be a marquee signing if we could get that deal done...

Perfect centre for mine.
 
@tigerpower said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370660) said:
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Simpkin has been very disappointing. He looked lost when he came on against the warriors.

Also gave away a 6 again which led to try. Dont think Maguire was very happy.
 
@tonza said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370793) said:
@tigerpower said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370660) said:
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Simpkin has been very disappointing. He looked lost when he came on against the warriors.

Also gave away a 6 again which led to try. Dont think Maguire was very happy.

What's he gonna do?
He let's a few of these clowns get away with continuous nonsense but he's not happy with Simpkin?

The guys a melt.
 
@snake said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1369491) said:
Yes a Marquee coach signing is definitely the priority !

Just another coach will do, this one has made a bad 20 point per game defence, a 30 point per game defence in 3 years, he has failed dismally , and attracted zero sought after players
 
@demps said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370795) said:
@tonza said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370793) said:
@tigerpower said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370660) said:
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Simpkin has been very disappointing. He looked lost when he came on against the warriors.

Also gave away a 6 again which led to try. Dont think Maguire was very happy.

What's he gonna do?
He let's a few of these clowns get away with continuous nonsense but he's not happy with Simpkin?

The guys a melt.

That is it in a nutshell, accountabilty, but only for a select few, no wonder the team is a shambles
 
@demps said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370795) said:
@tonza said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370793) said:
@tigerpower said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370660) said:
@gnr4life said in [Marquee Signing](/post/1370474) said:
At this point we have more or hope of unearthing another Benji or Tedesco. I thought we may have had something with Simpkin, but he’s been a big disappointment so far. Especially when you see guys like Walker and Walsh who are a year younger come in and take games by the scruff of the neck.

Simpkin has been very disappointing. He looked lost when he came on against the warriors.

Also gave away a 6 again which led to try. Dont think Maguire was very happy.

What's he gonna do?
He let's a few of these clowns get away with continuous nonsense but he's not happy with Simpkin?

The guys a melt.

I think Simkin has done well at this stage of his career. Hookers like halves need to build combinations and confidence with those around them. He has had little time, this kid is good, give him a chance.
 
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