Marshall and Farah

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At 5:30 yesterday we were still in the hunt for the 8\. If we won that game we were 2points out of the 8 with 2 to play.

If Farah didnt come over, we would not have been in that position. You have a bit of a common agenda in your posts but facts are facts.

Farah getting us into that position is an opinion. Not a fact. Just like me thinking we had no chance of making the 8.
What's my common agenda? Being sick of the club plodding through season after season?

If you cant genuinely see the improvement in this club and this team over the last 18 months, then there is no point discussing this further. On and off the field, the Tigers have made huge improvements and seem to be heading in the right direction. It was never going to happen in one season.

To get back to the topic of Farah (THIS YEAR), after watching Jason Taylor wheel out Jordan Rankin or Kyle Lovett week after week after week with no hope of improvement, it has been very refreshing to have a coach who has acted swiftly when he sees something that needs addressing. "Plodding through the season" would have been blindly continuing on with Godinet & ET at dummy half but IC saw an opportunity to strengthen the team and took it by grabbing Farah for this year. it was not the easy option, remember Go & Pascoe were the ones who gave Robbie written notices back in 2016, but everyone got out of their own way for the good of the team. If you cant see that Farah strengthened the team in that period then there is not much more we can discuss.

Having said that, its a NO from me for Robbie next year.

I see no differences between 2016 and 2018.

Not a whole lot of difference in results.

Frustrating thing was In 2016 we had Tedesco, Woods, Moses and Addo Carr. Some genuine strike players - 3 Origin players now.

If we had some of those players in 2018 things might be on the up.

I think we have played pretty tough this year without great cattle. Thought we made some dubious signings but what else was out there.
 
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Farah getting us into that position is an opinion. Not a fact. Just like me thinking we had no chance of making the 8.
What's my common agenda? Being sick of the club plodding through season after season?

If you cant genuinely see the improvement in this club and this team over the last 18 months, then there is no point discussing this further. On and off the field, the Tigers have made huge improvements and seem to be heading in the right direction. It was never going to happen in one season.

To get back to the topic of Farah (THIS YEAR), after watching Jason Taylor wheel out Jordan Rankin or Kyle Lovett week after week after week with no hope of improvement, it has been very refreshing to have a coach who has acted swiftly when he sees something that needs addressing. "Plodding through the season" would have been blindly continuing on with Godinet & ET at dummy half but IC saw an opportunity to strengthen the team and took it by grabbing Farah for this year. it was not the easy option, remember Go & Pascoe were the ones who gave Robbie written notices back in 2016, but everyone got out of their own way for the good of the team. If you cant see that Farah strengthened the team in that period then there is not much more we can discuss.

Having said that, its a NO from me for Robbie next year.

I see no differences between 2016 and 2018.

Not a whole lot of difference in results.

Frustrating thing was In 2016 we had Tedesco, Woods, Moses and Addo Carr. Some genuine strike players - 3 Origin players now.

If we had some of those players in 2018 things might be on the up.

I think we have played pretty tough this year without great cattle. Thought we made some dubious signings but what else was out there.

Agree Eddie - what else was out there.

We got the best that was there and wanted to come here.

Hopefully when they announce the new signings for 2019 we will have improved the quality. However once again you can only get what is there and want to become Tigers.
 
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Marshall always seems in the thick of things and having a go in defence and attack. Farah is more consistent than Brooks in many departments. It has absolutely nothing to do with Farah the dropped balls yesterday. Surely the club doctor decides on Liddle but the same guy may have already erred on the same topic. The coach who got them through wins over top teams deserves to be given the call.

Farah was terrible on the weekend. Marshall wasn't far behind him. These guys are the guys we need to replace if we are to improve next season.
 
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If you cant genuinely see the improvement in this club and this team over the last 18 months, then there is no point discussing this further. On and off the field, the Tigers have made huge improvements and seem to be heading in the right direction. It was never going to happen in one season.

To get back to the topic of Farah (THIS YEAR), after watching Jason Taylor wheel out Jordan Rankin or Kyle Lovett week after week after week with no hope of improvement, it has been very refreshing to have a coach who has acted swiftly when he sees something that needs addressing. "Plodding through the season" would have been blindly continuing on with Godinet & ET at dummy half but IC saw an opportunity to strengthen the team and took it by grabbing Farah for this year. it was not the easy option, remember Go & Pascoe were the ones who gave Robbie written notices back in 2016, but everyone got out of their own way for the good of the team. If you cant see that Farah strengthened the team in that period then there is not much more we can discuss.

Having said that, its a NO from me for Robbie next year.

I see no differences between 2016 and 2018.

Not a whole lot of difference in results.

Frustrating thing was In 2016 we had Tedesco, Woods, Moses and Addo Carr. Some genuine strike players - 3 Origin players now.

If we had some of those players in 2018 things might be on the up.

I think we have played pretty tough this year without great cattle. Thought we made some dubious signings but what else was out there.

Agree Eddie - what else was out there.

We got the best that was there and wanted to come here.

Hopefully when they announce the new signings for 2019 we will have improved the quality. However once again you can only get what is there and want to become Tigers.

That's my problem with the club Russell. We aren't doing enough to make the club a desirable destination. We're just plodding along doing the same old thing.
Since Pascoe said he wasn't prepared to let another season slide….
That season slid off the edge of the planet
Two origin players left
And the next season slid away aswell with 2 wins out of 11 in the middle of the season.

Nothing is getting better.
 
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The positives far outweigh any of your negatives.

We have had massive support with a couple of sell out games etc.

Overall it's been a masterstroke for the club.

It can only be agenda or favoritism stopping people seeing that.

One sellout at a small ground. Wow what a masterstroke.
I was talking to Fade to Black about fans accepting the club being just happy to make up the numbers and heres an example.

We miss the 8 yet again but who cares LO got a good crowd.
Amazing.

Lol I'm the last person to accept mediocrity.

As for the one small ground sell out. Pointless me trying to argue that. It would be easy to mind you but totally pointless and a further waste of my time.

Lol. You give up as easy as our team

Signing Farah was a masterstroke, if you dont think we needed a d/h at the time we signed him, you have no idea at all. As well your not going to get a better d/h at that time of the season wanting to play for the Tigers. At Farah's age , he will only be good for another season , so perfect timing to help develope Liddle.
 
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One sellout at a small ground. Wow what a masterstroke.
I was talking to Fade to Black about fans accepting the club being just happy to make up the numbers and heres an example.

We miss the 8 yet again but who cares LO got a good crowd.
Amazing.

Lol I'm the last person to accept mediocrity.

As for the one small ground sell out. Pointless me trying to argue that. It would be easy to mind you but totally pointless and a further waste of my time.

Lol. You give up as easy as our team

Signing Farah was a masterstroke, if you dont think we needed a d/h at the time we signed him, you have no idea at all. As well your not going to get a better d/h at that time of the season wanting to play for the Tigers. At Farah's age , he will only be good for another season , so perfect timing to help develope Liddle.

We failed to make the 8 so I cant see how it was a masterstroke, A panicky move by a coach out of ideas and it failed.
 
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Lol I'm the last person to accept mediocrity.

As for the one small ground sell out. Pointless me trying to argue that. It would be easy to mind you but totally pointless and a further waste of my time.

Lol. You give up as easy as our team

Signing Farah was a masterstroke, if you dont think we needed a d/h at the time we signed him, you have no idea at all. As well your not going to get a better d/h at that time of the season wanting to play for the Tigers. At Farah's age , he will only be good for another season , so perfect timing to help develope Liddle.

We failed to make the 8 so I cant see how it was a masterstroke, A panicky move by a coach out of ideas and it failed.

Should’ve panicked earlier .
 
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Lol. You give up as easy as our team

Signing Farah was a masterstroke, if you dont think we needed a d/h at the time we signed him, you have no idea at all. As well your not going to get a better d/h at that time of the season wanting to play for the Tigers. At Farah's age , he will only be good for another season , so perfect timing to help develope Liddle.

We failed to make the 8 so I cant see how it was a masterstroke, A panicky move by a coach out of ideas and it failed.

Should’ve panicked earlier .

Bloody oath, signing him instead of Godinet last off season would have been a masterstroke.
 
The guy scored good tries in his two last games at WT two years ago yet was shoved - if any of our guys would have scored two guys tries last week instead of fumbling the ball near the line I would have kissed them. With all those fumblers I was hoping he would have a go himself. He could not have done any worse - at least possession would have been kept. He has the record for a try scoring hooker - yeah boot him out we can't have someone like that ruin our shocking record.
 
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Farah getting us into that position is an opinion. Not a fact. Just like me thinking we had no chance of making the 8.
What's my common agenda? Being sick of the club plodding through season after season?

If you cant genuinely see the improvement in this club and this team over the last 18 months, then there is no point discussing this further. On and off the field, the Tigers have made huge improvements and seem to be heading in the right direction. It was never going to happen in one season.

To get back to the topic of Farah (THIS YEAR), after watching Jason Taylor wheel out Jordan Rankin or Kyle Lovett week after week after week with no hope of improvement, it has been very refreshing to have a coach who has acted swiftly when he sees something that needs addressing. "Plodding through the season" would have been blindly continuing on with Godinet & ET at dummy half but IC saw an opportunity to strengthen the team and took it by grabbing Farah for this year. it was not the easy option, remember Go & Pascoe were the ones who gave Robbie written notices back in 2016, but everyone got out of their own way for the good of the team. If you cant see that Farah strengthened the team in that period then there is not much more we can discuss.

Having said that, its a NO from me for Robbie next year.

I see no differences between 2016 and 2018.

If you see no differences in this club, this team, the football that is being played, the way the team is coached between 2016 and now, I see no point in continuing a conversation here with you. I look forward to your next 20 or 30 posts vaguely rambling about accepting mediocrity without any ideas on how a club and team actually gets from point A to point B when the differences between 2016 & 2018 are what you need to understand as necessary components to climb out of mediocrity. It doesnt happen in a season.

Can you point out the differences taking in to account the coach of 2016 had no control, no cap money and a board that was still made up of Wests, Balmain and independents. The team finished the season 9th with the 10th best attack and 15th defense and the coach was summarily sacked. Jump to 2018 the coach has full autonomy, the board has no factions and fully supports the coach, the coach had no cap restrictions and was able to pick the squad he wanted. In the 18 months that Cleary has been coach WT have gone from 10th best attack to 16 th both years and defense from 15th to 13th to 3rd this year. Unless something miraculous happens the team will finish 9th.
So the difference on the field is that the defence has improved out of sight but the attack has become non existent. Position on the table is the same. Off the field the club is going ahead in leaps and bounds but this would likely be more to the new board without factions rather than anything to do with the coach.
I think Gallagher is right - we are still just plodding along - just with a different coach running the show.
 
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The positives far outweigh any of your negatives.

We have had massive support with a couple of sell out games etc.

Overall it's been a masterstroke for the club.

It can only be agenda or favoritism stopping people seeing that.

One sellout at a small ground. Wow what a masterstroke.
I was talking to Fade to Black about fans accepting the club being just happy to make up the numbers and heres an example.

We miss the 8 yet again but who cares LO got a good crowd.
Amazing.

Lol I'm the last person to accept mediocrity.

As for the one small ground sell out. Pointless me trying to argue that. It would be easy to mind you but totally pointless and a further waste of my time.

Lol. You give up as easy as our team

Seeing as how you are going to follow me on to other topics and cry about no response, here is your response.

Since Robbie Farah has re-signed with the club our home ground attendances are as follows -

18,387

25,963

16,984

Really is a waste of my time trying to prove to you that bringing Robbie Farah back was an advantage to the club both on and off the field. It corrected a wrong and the fans have show faith in the club and supported it with fantastic attendances.

But hey knowing how this works youll try and argue that.
 
This time next week we’ll be awaiting Benji and Robbie’s farewells against the ‘tohs. They must be respected for their time spent at the club…....good and bad
 
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If you cant genuinely see the improvement in this club and this team over the last 18 months, then there is no point discussing this further. On and off the field, the Tigers have made huge improvements and seem to be heading in the right direction. It was never going to happen in one season.

To get back to the topic of Farah (THIS YEAR), after watching Jason Taylor wheel out Jordan Rankin or Kyle Lovett week after week after week with no hope of improvement, it has been very refreshing to have a coach who has acted swiftly when he sees something that needs addressing. "Plodding through the season" would have been blindly continuing on with Godinet & ET at dummy half but IC saw an opportunity to strengthen the team and took it by grabbing Farah for this year. it was not the easy option, remember Go & Pascoe were the ones who gave Robbie written notices back in 2016, but everyone got out of their own way for the good of the team. If you cant see that Farah strengthened the team in that period then there is not much more we can discuss.

Having said that, its a NO from me for Robbie next year.

I see no differences between 2016 and 2018.

If you see no differences in this club, this team, the football that is being played, the way the team is coached between 2016 and now, I see no point in continuing a conversation here with you. I look forward to your next 20 or 30 posts vaguely rambling about accepting mediocrity without any ideas on how a club and team actually gets from point A to point B when the differences between 2016 & 2018 are what you need to understand as necessary components to climb out of mediocrity. It doesnt happen in a season.

We've been mediocre for most of our existence. The club isn't improving.

I can't agree Gallagher. The improvements off the field are obvious. Salary cap under control, what seems to be a unified Board and a more than capable CEO and manager of football operations. And a better coach, regardless of how long he may be at the Tigers.
Off field improvements will inevitably lead to on field improvements.
You have to have the foundations in place first. That appears to be well in place.
I personally am looking forward - now - to the on field improvements that I am confident will follow.
 
I would offer them a first grade only contract with a base amount in case they are dropped on bad form and offer them a job around the joint in 2020..neither of these legends should have to play I.S.P again..any game next year might be their last..they are old and wise enough to understand there is life after football and a future with the club pending.
 

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