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WESTS TIGERS five-eighth Benji Marshall says he would be ''shattered'' if Tim Sheens left to coach Penrith, and expressed concerns whether the club could find a fitting replacement.

Sheens is set to decide today between a lucrative four-year deal with Penrith and a two-year offer from the Tigers. Should he leave the Tigers, Marshall, who has been coached only by Sheens at club level, would be left ''devastated''. And he gave an inkling of the extent of the significance of the decision when he told the Herald: ''If you're getting someone else in, changing coaches, you try to go for someone else who's better. In my eyes, Tim's up there with the best in the game. Who's there to replace him?''

Sheens kept the league world guessing yesterday on his future, even refusing to front a planned press conference, leaving that job to his assistant, Peter Gentle. Marshall said he was in the dark, although he could not hide the effect that Sheens's departure would have on him personally.

Advertisement: Story continues below ''I've been coached by Tim for my whole career,'' Marshall said. ''I don't want to lose him. I'm not going to lie - I'd be devastated. But at the same time, I'm a professional sportsman. Whatever he decides to do, I'll still be his friend and I'll still ask him for advice.

''Whenever it's come down to my contract negotiations, he's always said, 'Do what you think is best for you.' And I've done that. I signed a long-term deal at the club, and a lot of that was because of his influence but I can't complain. It would be great to see him stay but I certainly wouldn't be dirty if he doesn't. I would be shattered though.''

The Tigers will likely look to the likes of Huddersfield coach Nathan Brown as well as Ricky Stuart should Sheens depart, not to mention Gentle, Steve Folkes and Grant Jones, who are on staff. It would appear logical, though, that they would not replace the game's most experienced coach with someone who has not been in charge of one NRL fixture.

But the Tigers can at least rest easy that the national coach will not take the club's best player with him. Marshall had a clause in his previous

contract that he could leave the Tigers if Sheens did so but had it deleted for the five-year, lifetime deal that will take the playmaker through to the end of the 2015 season. Despite his connection with Sheens, someone he regards as a father figure, Marshall said he had no intention of walking away

''I'm on contract until 2015,'' Marshall said. ''I love it at the club.

''I could have got a lot of money elsewhere but I'm happy here, and I feel like my form benefited from signing a long-term deal with the club. I'm not going anywhere.''

Tigers skipper Robbie Farah maintained Sheens had much to offer the Tigers still, in his ninth season at the club, but said he would respect whatever decision he made.

''From the first year he coached me to now, he's a different coach. He's changed, he's always changing, and that's why he's survived in the game for so long,'' Farah said. ''But if he doesn't want to be here, or if he wants to go … we've got to move on.''

Gentle said he had no inkling of what Sheens would do, saying of the late change to the schedule: ''Quite often he'll throw me in if he's busy or whatever but I think he's avoiding the questions you're going to ask, so that's why I'm here.''

Admitting for the first time the interest in Sheens, Penrith chairman Don Feltis last night told the Herald he was expecting to hear from the coach soon.

''I anticipate we'll get an answer in the near future,'' Feltis said. ''I respect that Tim doesn't want to play it out in the media, and it's not in our best interests to do that either.

''We don't want to upset him, so we'll wait for him to get back to us. We want to let him make his own mind up, so we're certainly not going to put any pressure on him in the meantime.''

The Herald has learnt the overwhelming reason Sheens was Penrith's first choice to replace Matthew Elliott was because the club believed it simply could not afford to wait any longer to become a genuine premiership contender again.

There obviously isn't a guarantee of success, even under Sheens, but the club believed it had to appoint the best coach available rather than go for another coach who might be promising but either hasn't coached in the NRL recently or achieved as highly as Sheens.

Sheens is 60, and the club believes he has survived at the top for so long because his coaching has evolved with the game and he has proved he can relate to players of all ages. The fact he played for Penrith and began his coaching career there is seen as a romantic aside to making the side a force again as soon as possible.
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TIM Sheens will today decide: Money or Marshall.
ShThe Daily Telegraph can reveal that Sheens is torn between a whopping $2.5 million offer from Penrith or remaining at Wests Tigers to continue coaching a player he looks upon as a son, superstar Benji Marshall.

Wests Tigers have offered Sheens a two-year extension worth $410,000 a season plus an additional two years as the club's coaching director, worth $200,000 a season. That leaves a staggering $1.28 million gap between the two contract deals.

But as of late last night, Wests Tigers officials were quietly confident Sheens would still accept the lower offer because of his love for the club and players.

Sheens and Marshall have enormous respect for one another - Sheens telling friends yesterday of his reluctance to leave Marshall.
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But should Sheens return to Penrith, there was mounting speculation last night that Wests Tigers would approach NSW coach Ricky Stuart.

Until Sheens makes his decision, which is expected today, Tigers officials are refusing to contact Stuart.

If Sheens accepts the Penrith job, there was talk last night that Wests Tigers may want him to leave the club immediately.

Steve Folkes, the Tigers' assistant coach, would take over for the rest of the year.

Tigers management would harbour no ill-feelings if Sheens did leave.

One source inside the Tigers camp said: "There would be no hardship. No one would blame him. This marriage has been good for Tim and for the Tigers."Sheens annoyed the media yesterday by refusing to front a planned press conference inside the club's training facility at Concord. Instead, he told assistant coach Peter Gentle to answer questions about the coaching position.

"He will come up with the right decision and we will respect whatever decision he does make," Wests Tigers hooker Robbie Farah said. "We'd definitely like him to stay here but if he doesn't want to be here or wants to go somewhere else, we've got to move on.

"If Tim decides to move on then I'm sure someone will step up. But he's a coach we don't want to lose. Hopefully Tim will make up his mind soon.

"I don't think it's a distraction as yet but if it does drag on for weeks heading into the next few games it probably will become a distraction, so hopefully Tim will make his mind up soon."Gentle looked uncomfortable fronting the media yesterday.

"I'm here to support Tim and as long as he is here, I am here for him," Gentle said
 
If we end up with Ricky Stuart it will put this club back to year one. the guy cannot play any other way but bash and barge
 
@IronTiger said:
If we end up with Ricky Stuart it will put this club back to year one. the guy cannot play any other way but bash and barge

Why do people keep thinking this? they seem to remmeber only his time at the shakrs with no speed out wide or no good halves.

the roosters actually threw the ball around with Fittler we have Benji he also made 3 grand finals in a row
 
@Golden said:
@IronTiger said:
If we end up with Ricky Stuart it will put this club back to year one. the guy cannot play any other way but bash and barge

Why do people keep thinking this? they seem to remmeber only his time at the shakrs with no speed out wide or no good halves.

the roosters actually threw the ball around with Fittler we have Benji he also made 3 grand finals in a row

Yeah could say the same thing about people only remembering sheens stint at the cowboys…. hypocrits

Golden he was in charge of east when they had a team that would of definantly been over the cap.Judge him on his last coaching gig.But i will say this atleast he went to cronulla the so called master coach bennett wouldnt give them a look in.
 
@Golden said:
@IronTiger said:
If we end up with Ricky Stuart it will put this club back to year one. the guy cannot play any other way but bash and barge

Why do people keep thinking this? they seem to remmeber only his time at the shakrs with no speed out wide or no good halves.

the roosters actually threw the ball around with Fittler we have Benji he also made 3 grand finals in a row

Except it was Gus Gould pulling the strings especially when they won the comp. There style was smash smash to get to the line. It was telling that when Gus left after the spat with the roosters that's when they started going down hill. His style at the sharks was the same.

I don't rate him or his style. He loves origin and I can't stand origin style football week in week out

No thanks
 
On Stuart,I don't think he is great,but he took Cronulla to the top of thr premiership(equal first in 2008),so he does offer something.
 
@TigersFan4Life said:
Well, as with the naming of the team on Tuesdays, we probably won't know what he's decided until sometime close to 5pm.

It's because that's when he wakes from his nanna nap…..
 

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