Martin Taupau - Discussion Thread

[Granto87]

Scary thinng is Tedesco is managed by Sam Ayoub…so are half of the big names in NRL...none will come to us now and Teddy will be talked into asking for a release.

Why, he's playing with his mates. Isn't that why he reneged on the Raiders?

Lets hope they all stick around? Hopefully he isn't close with Farah as well.

 

[balmain boy]

What is Dobbo's track record like? I don't watch 360 much, but whenever I've seen him he seems to talk garbage - standard News Ltd sensationalism and gossip.

This was being talked about far earlier than Dobbo brought it up 1st time let alone this time mate

Yeah the rumours are one thing, but this is a guy on TV saying that he's definitively gone for 2016\. To wriggle room - he's gone.

This is a nobody, who's opinion is worth nothing, floating rumours around.

Taupau has loved the club and its supporters since he arrived. Was grateful for the opportunity given to him. And has been very positive throughout the tough times this year. There's not one shred of evidence that he wants out apart from the claim of some unknown gossip journalist.

Yes a number of clubs will be interested in him, as is the case with all top players. Duh….

There's no reason why we should release him, and considering we've been in talks to extend his contract beyond next season the chances of us letting him go to a rival early would be extremely slim. Wouldn't help our cap much if he's on 150-200k.

He'll get his payday in 2017 but not before.

 

[bigsiro]

Martin Tapau offers a few highlight reel plays every couple of weeks.

He has the 'potential' to dominate.

But isn't he 25 or so? He isn't going to improve dramatically from this point in his career. He's a 'shock trooper' type player, one which can be effective in the right team.

He is not going to make this side a finals team.

He's the Kiwi Dave Taylor.

Suaso Sue is a much more promising and well rounded forward. Ava is a better prop.

You could probably get the same kind of impact, over the course of a full season, from someone like JJ Felise.

Losing Tapau does not sink the club. He's an extremely well built, athletic guy. And likeable.

But he's not the saviour of this club. The Tigers need professional, hard nosed players to give them a winning edge. And to bring the best out of the young players in the club.

I would not consider Tapau's flamboyant 'big plays' hard nosed or consistant enough.

Crikey you are either extremely difficult to please or its sour grapes. Now a player has to be our "saviour" for us to be upset about him leaving? What the?

Tapau is probably the forward in the game with the most potential to be a consistent game-breaker, just like Fifita, Waerea-Hargreaves and even Dave Taylor. All huge and potentially very damaging. We have always needed a pack that competes with the bigger boppers and he is exactly the size we have cried out for for years. So, if any of us Tigers fans are not completely rope-able that Taupau is leaving then that will do me. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if that opinion is one that suggests we don't need Taupau then as far as I'm concerned it is an opinion worth disregarding. Just like the opinions that floated around years ago that we didn't need Thurston, Cronk, DCE or Folau.

 

[innsaneink]

I hope it's not true but you would think if it isn't true the club would come out and deny it?

No.
If clubs responded to every rumour… There'd be a hundred times more rumours than there already is

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

Are there people here hoping for some 'loyalty' from Tapau?

I guess Canterbury would have liked some 'loyalty' from him too?

Of course it'll be about money. If he's got an offer, or knows he will get one, significantly higher than what he's on, or can get from the Tigers, why wouldn't he chase it?

Good for him.

Given the impact he has on any game, if he can get 'marquee' money from any club, I'd suggest he chase it hard.

I'm just hoping that the Tigers don't feel the need to get desperate to keep him.

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

Martin Tapau offers a few highlight reel plays every couple of weeks.

He has the 'potential' to dominate.

But isn't he 25 or so? He isn't going to improve dramatically from this point in his career. He's a 'shock trooper' type player, one which can be effective in the right team.

He is not going to make this side a finals team.

He's the Kiwi Dave Taylor.

Suaso Sue is a much more promising and well rounded forward. Ava is a better prop.

You could probably get the same kind of impact, over the course of a full season, from someone like JJ Felise.

Losing Tapau does not sink the club. He's an extremely well built, athletic guy. And likeable.

But he's not the saviour of this club. The Tigers need professional, hard nosed players to give them a winning edge. And to bring the best out of the young players in the club.

I would not consider Tapau's flamboyant 'big plays' hard nosed or consistant enough.

Crikey you are either extremely difficult to please or its sour grapes. Now a player has to be our "saviour" for us to be upset about him leaving? What the?

Tapau is probably the forward in the game with the most potential to be a consistent game-breaker, just like Fifita, Waerea-Hargreaves and even Dave Taylor. All huge and potentially very damaging. We have always needed a pack that competes with the bigger boppers and he is exactly the size we have cried out for for years. So, if any of us Tigers fans are not completely rope-able that Taupau is leaving then that will do me. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if that opinion is one that suggests we don't need Taupau then as far as I'm concerned it is an opinion worth disregarding. Just like the opinions that floated around years ago that we didn't need Thurston, Cronk, DCE or Folau.

Hold fire there Mate.

You can be as upset as you like about Tapau leaving. I'm not about to stop you. I'm just of the belief that he doesn't have the level of play on gameday to match a significant payrise.

You mentioned Fifita, Waerea-Hargreaves & Dave Taylor. Tapau is on par with Dave Taylor. The other 2 don't have the 'potential' to dominate a game, they dominate a game. That's why they get paid accordingly.

Dave Taylor is a good comparison- bigger than most, fast- should be unstoppable. And when he's on his game, that's what he is. Same with Marty.

But 'being on their game' isn't an every week proposition for these guys.

Dave Taylor went from a boom Bronco/Rabbit to a part time Titan to now, the ESL.

I don't have sour grapes at all. I like Tapau. I just think the money would be better spent getting more regular impact players- guys that impact games every week. Who make the regular hit ups.

Tapau for mine is an 'elite' talent without 'elite' production.

 

[jirskyr]

Tapau is probably the forward in the game with the most potential to be a consistent game-breaker, just like Fifita, Waerea-Hargreaves and even Dave Taylor. All huge and potentially very damaging. We have always needed a pack that competes with the bigger boppers and he is exactly the size we have cried out for for years. So, if any of us Tigers fans are not completely rope-able that Taupau is leaving then that will do me.

Yes he can be a game breaker, but I don't think he is on the level of Fifita or JWH.

 

[happy_tiger]

Scary thinng is Tedesco is managed by Sam Ayoub…so are half of the big names in NRL...none will come to us now and Teddy will be talked into asking for a release.

Why, he's playing with his mates. Isn't that why he reneged on the Raiders?

Teddy is happier than a pig in you know what

 

[Geo]

Scary thinng is Tedesco is managed by Sam Ayoub…so are half of the big names in NRL...none will come to us now and Teddy will be talked into asking for a release.

Why, he's playing with his mates. Isn't that why he reneged on the Raiders?

Teddy is happier than a pig in you know what

MUD… 😕

 

[ricksen]

What is Dobbo's track record like? I don't watch 360 much, but whenever I've seen him he seems to talk garbage - standard News Ltd sensationalism and gossip.

This was being talked about far earlier than Dobbo brought it up 1st time let alone this time mate

Yeah the rumours are one thing, but this is a guy on TV saying that he's definitively gone for 2016\. To wriggle room - he's gone.

This is a nobody, who's opinion is worth nothing, floating rumours around.

Taupau has loved the club and its supporters since he arrived. Was grateful for the opportunity given to him. And has been very positive throughout the tough times this year. There's not one shred of evidence that he wants out apart from the claim of some unknown gossip journalist.

Yes a number of clubs will be interested in him, as is the case with all top players. Duh….

There's no reason why we should release him, and considering we've been in talks to extend his contract beyond next season the chances of us letting him go to a rival early would be extremely slim. Wouldn't help our cap much if he's on 150-200k.

He'll get his payday in 2017 but not before.

Tend to agree - there'll be 16 clubs interested in his signature for 2017, so the rumours around him being chased by GC/Souths/whoever don't mean anything.
To me, this smacks of his agent leaking some news to force WT's hand a tad - nothing more than a negotiating tool.
Dobbo is seizing upon it as gospel and bignoting himself.

Yes he can be a game breaker, but I don't think he is on the level of Fifita or JWH.

Definitely agree with this - but remember he's only had 2 years in FG, and has improved steadily in that time.
It's taken JWH years to get to the level he is now (first year of semi-regular FG was 2010). I'd love for us to keep Taupau around for a while to see if he can get there too, especially given our forward stocks are so pathetically low.

 

[Kul]

*head-desk*

 

[happy_tiger]

Scary thinng is Tedesco is managed by Sam Ayoub…so are half of the big names in NRL...none will come to us now and Teddy will be talked into asking for a release.

Why, he's playing with his mates. Isn't that why he reneged on the Raiders?

Teddy is happier than a pig in you know what

MUD… 😕

Pies … 😕

 

[bigsiro]

Yes he can be a game breaker, but I don't think he is on the level of Fifita or JWH.

Definitely agree with this - but remember he's only had 2 years in FG, and has improved steadily in that time.
It's taken JWH years to get to the level he is now (first year of semi-regular FG was 2010). I'd love for us to keep Taupau around for a while to see if he can get there too, especially given our forward stocks are so pathetically low.

He is not on their level YET but I honestly think that Taupau will be better than both of them. He is only 25\. Letting him go now will be as regrettable as the loss of Fifita (albeit under different circumstances).

 

[ILTIGRE]

I may be naive, although I haven't seen one solid piece of evidence saying this is true. Everything I have read/heard on the matter starts with the something like "reportedly" or "there's reports" . We are a club the media has a field day with dragging through the mud, so they bring up an old story to run off the back of the Robbie Farah saga before it dies down.
I'm not saying its not true, as it may well be, as all rumors start from something, although I'll reserve my judgment of the matter until Marty all the club announce it!

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[Cultured_Bogan]

The double standards are quite funny here too:

- Farah is asked to look elsewhere two years early: clubs fault, no loyalty, coach sucks, etc
- Taupau wants out one year early: clubs fault, why would you stay here with the goings on, coach sucks, etc
- Austin requests to leave one year early and club does him the favour: clubs fault, screw what Austin wants, enforce the contract, coach sucks, etc

Just typical of the sport now, the clubs and players are only as loyal to each other as they are useful to each other. Seems like the club cops the most grief over it all though.

 

[Tigermama]

Martin Tapau offers a few highlight reel plays every couple of weeks.

He has the 'potential' to dominate.

But isn't he 25 or so? He isn't going to improve dramatically from this point in his career. He's a 'shock trooper' type player, one which can be effective in the right team.

He is not going to make this side a finals team.

He's the Kiwi Dave Taylor.

Suaso Sue is a much more promising and well rounded forward. Ava is a better prop.

You could probably get the same kind of impact, over the course of a full season, from someone like JJ Felise.

Losing Tapau does not sink the club. He's an extremely well built, athletic guy. And likeable.

But he's not the saviour of this club. The Tigers need professional, hard nosed players to give them a winning edge. And to bring the best out of the young players in the club.

I would not consider Tapau's flamboyant 'big plays' hard nosed or consistant enough.

Crikey you are either extremely difficult to please or its sour grapes. Now a player has to be our "saviour" for us to be upset about him leaving? What the?

Tapau is probably the forward in the game with the most potential to be a consistent game-breaker, just like Fifita, Waerea-Hargreaves and even Dave Taylor. All huge and potentially very damaging. We have always needed a pack that competes with the bigger boppers and he is exactly the size we have cried out for for years. So, if any of us Tigers fans are not completely rope-able that Taupau is leaving then that will do me. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if that opinion is one that suggests we don't need Taupau then as far as I'm concerned it is an opinion worth disregarding. Just like the opinions that floated around years ago that we didn't need Thurston, Cronk, DCE or Folau.

Good post BS. I personally don't beleive the rumour. But if by any chance it was true, Geo and i would be devastated. :bawling …. :bawling

 

[happy_tiger]

The double standards are quite funny here too:

- Farah is asked to look elsewhere two years early: clubs fault, no loyalty, coach sucks, etc
- Taupau wants out one year early: clubs fault, why would you stay here with the goings on, coach sucks, etc
- Austin requests to leave one year early and club does him the favour: clubs fault, screw what Austin wants, enforce the contract, coach sucks, etc

Just typical of the sport now, the clubs and players are only as loyal to each other as they are useful to each other. Seems like the club cops the most grief over it all though.

And what about Blair :laughing:

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I'll be shattered if he goes.
Not a junior but made a name for himself here and is someone with ability and an aurora whi can bring fans in.

Wonder if Sirro Moses Brooks and Nofa are on bigger bucks? If so what a failure.
Last year with him Woods Blair Thompson and Austin plys the rest really had hopes.
Now we are as boring as …......

 

[Tiger_Tim]

I'll be shattered if he goes.
Not a junior but made a name for himself here and is someone with ability and an aurora whi can bring fans in.

Wonder if Sirro Moses Brooks and Nofa are on bigger bucks? If so what a failure.
Last year with him Woods Blair Thompson and Austin plys the rest really had hopes.
Now we are as boring as …......

For a team that has such little punch in the forwards to lose the only aggressive forward we have leaves me speechless.

 

[Guest]

I reckon we'll keep him.