Matt Ballin signs for two years - official

Now I know why he struggled to make a Statement when we had no CEO in relation to the Farah saga…..Man he struggles Putting words together. (I blame the flies) :laughing:.

On a serious note how can JT say" it's a position we need strengthening " when asked about the Ballin signing.
It only needs strengthening if in actual fact......something is in the pipeline for Farah not to be here next year.
If this is to occur before next year? then ok with Ballin being signed but if not? make no mistake it's a tactic to force Farah out of here, there is no other explanation.

We have the hooker position well and truly covered already without Ballin in the picture with Farah, Cherrington and Halatau more than capable of doing the job.
Anyway this only confirms to Farah the Clubs intentions and in my opinion he has been given no option but to stop fighting for what he loves and get the Hell out of here cause there showing him a total lack of respect now and making him fight for his spot even more uncomfortable with the signing of Ballin.

Can't wait for our team sheet next year

9\. Ballin
14\. Farah
15\. Cherrington
16\. Halatau

More hookers than a Brothel :mrgreen: :laughing:
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Yeah got that.

Did you watch and listen to JT's hard hitting interview this morning?

I know now we "are in talks" with Ballin because we lack depth in the hooker position. But the irony of JT being happy to let Farah go even though we lack said depth in the position seemed to be lost on him.

The other important issue was that the flies were attracted to Taylor.

No I missed the interview Robbie, but I hazard a guess that you caught it and you were shocked and appalled at his conduct and wish for a summary execution to take place immediately for what can only be construed as innocuous behaviour for an NRL coach.
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Nice sarcasm there CB, pity that you never heard the interview. It could be said that you don't know what you're talking about.
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
If the Ballin contract was written on flat Lebo bread it could be eaten to hide the evidence
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Farah would tell you that the contract would be hard to digest.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Yeah got that.

Did you watch and listen to JT's hard hitting interview this morning?

I know now we "are in talks" with Ballin because we lack depth in the hooker position. But the irony of JT being happy to let Farah go even though we lack said depth in the position seemed to be lost on him.

The other important issue was that the flies were attracted to Taylor.

No I missed the interview Robbie, but I hazard a guess that you caught it and you were shocked and appalled at his conduct and wish for a summary execution to take place immediately for what can only be construed as innocuous behaviour for an NRL coach.

Nice sarcasm there CB, pity that you never heard the interview. It could be said that you don't know what you're talking about.
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So what, he made a contradictory statement… Perhaps the club has just said "bugger it, the cats out of the bag, you may as well confirm it."

Farah is not being let go because of the salary cap, or because we're spoilt for choice in his position. It's quite obvious he's got someone(s) nose(s) out of joint and they want him away from the first team. Everyone still carries on about how we've already got a perfectly good hooker here. That's not the point of him being bounced, it's got nothing to do with his on field performances, he's on the outer because he quite clearly clashes with people be it staff, administration or other players. He is gone, so we do need a decent hooker. Halatau is a filler in the position and Cherrington is only a pup.

We got over Benji going, we'll get over Farah. I'm over it all to be honest. My ideal scenario is that Farah still gets the flick, Taylor loses the first four games of the year and the club flicks him for Cleary if he wants to gamble being another coach to not see out his tenure here.

EDIT: Just watched the Fox interview, for my own edification.

- The club are talking to Ballin;
- Farah can stay at the club, and will be considered for first grade every week (i.e. enjoy reggies);
- They let Marty go a year early;
- He and Farah aren't the best of mates.

So nothing new, apart from the fact he has acknowledged they're talking to Ballin. If he feels Farah doesn't work to his plan he has every right to bounce him, he lives and dies by the teams performances. Taylor inherited him. If his resigning happened under his tenure and now he looks to shaft him then I can understand the ire it might draw. It's about time the club coach actually got to control what happens with the first squad.
 
@ghost said:
I tell ya….if Ballin does sign he is walking straight into shatfight!
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Lol. Meow, meeeow-ee- owww…( snarling)
JT really doesn't inspire confidence, going by that interview. 😱pen_mouth:
So many flies on the man.... :mrgreen:
 
@Balmain Boy said:
_Why hasn't it been announced?_ Duh, Robbie. Trying to sort things out there a bit first. Would be unprofessional for the club to publicly confirm anything just yet and cause another storm in the media and with disgruntled fans without any further progress on that situation. It may come to that, but they'll try and avoid it for now anyway.

If he has signed we not only of course won't be paying Taupau anything, but it's highly probable we won't be paying Ballin anything next season either.

_Why 2 years?_ Ballin probably wanted a little more job security than to sign with a troubled club, with a star young hooker for only one year, especially when he's coming back from injury. We'd be paying some-all of his salary for the second season for sure.

_Ballin given time off training?_ Well he's injured so can't train anyway… But yes he could show up and start socaialsing with the players.

_Why sign Ballin given we have a great young prospect (and possibly Robbie)?_ He's a consummate professional. Something our club lacks. Whether he plays or not he'll train the house down, do media/community stuff and generally be totally professional and an excellent role model for our juniors.

And really signing a player who's known for their professionalism, in place of your existing captain certainly suggests he may not be the role model some may have thought he was.
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….. so you are suggesting we sacrificed another year of Marty in our squad to secure Ballin while we have Farah and lets not forget Halatau in our team ? I cant believe that anyone is defending this decision even if you want Farah out ! I honestly think Taylor has lost all sense of reasoning - there is no attempt of resolution for his part - he may as well have poured petrol on it.
 
@foreveratiger said:
Now I know why he struggled to make a Statement when we had no CEO in relation to the Farah saga…..Man he struggles Putting words together. (I blame the flies) :laughing:.

On a serious note how can JT say" it's a position we need strengthening " when asked about the Ballin signing.
It only needs strengthening if in actual fact......something is in the pipeline for Farah not to be here next year.
If this is to occur before next year? then ok with Ballin being signed but if not? make no mistake it's a tactic to force Farah out of here, there is no other explanation.

We have the hooker position well and truly covered already without Ballin in the picture with Farah, Cherrington and Halatau more than capable of doing the job.
Anyway this only confirms to Farah the Clubs intentions and in my opinion he has been given no option but to stop fighting for what he loves and get the Hell out of here cause there showing him a total lack of respect now and making him fight for his spot even more uncomfortable with the signing of Ballin.

Can't wait for our team sheet next year

9\. Ballin
14\. Farah
15\. Cherrington
16\. Halatau

More hookers than a Brothel :mrgreen: :laughing:
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Lol… He must be a closeted hooker fan :laughing:
 
@foreveratiger said:
Now I know why he struggled to make a Statement when we had no CEO in relation to the Farah saga…..Man he struggles Putting words together. (I blame the flies) :laughing:.

On a serious note how can JT say" it's a position we need strengthening " when asked about the Ballin signing.
It only needs strengthening if in actual fact......something is in the pipeline for Farah not to be here next year.
If this is to occur before next year? then ok with Ballin being signed but if not? make no mistake it's a tactic to force Farah out of here, there is no other explanation.

We have the hooker position well and truly covered already without Ballin in the picture with Farah, Cherrington and Halatau more than capable of doing the job.
Anyway this only confirms to Farah the Clubs intentions and in my opinion he has been given no option but to stop fighting for what he loves and get the Hell out of here cause there showing him a total lack of respect now and making him fight for his spot even more uncomfortable with the signing of Ballin.

Can't wait for our team sheet next year

9\. Ballin
14\. Farah
15\. Cherrington
16\. Halatau

More hookers than a Brothel :mrgreen: :laughing:
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He has trouble putting words together because it is all spin to mask what the real aim is - to get rid of Farah at any cost.
 
Either way, this farce will need to be resolved. Did anyone play close attention to the face of the young fellow in the blue shirt to the right of Taylor at the beginning of the interview. Incredulity, bewilderment a picture tells a thousand words.
 
Again, people hear what they want to hear.

I'm starting to find it a bit amazing that some in here seem to want JT to come out & say "I hate Robbie Farah & he has zero chance of playing 1st Grade this season", as if they need to hear the words from him to get some kind of confirmation.

Yes, signing Ballin is a clear indication that JT wants to move Farah on. Are we really needing confirmation of that?

To be fair- I think the way JT handles the press is a bit refreshing. He doesn't talk about how great things are with Robbie (lies), he doesn't say the club played better than results indicate, he doesn't say this season will be better because we have better players.

He's quite matter of fact, and yes- professional. By not giving the media multitudes of snippets to feed off, he's doing the best thing for the club. He's deliberately vague about player specifics- this is not an uncommon tactic. And really- that is professional. Singling out individuals causes more trouble.

Some might want to say that by telling Farah he can move on that the club has, in fact, singled him out. But they didn't. Galloway, Lawrence, Richards & Farah were all given the opportunity to move on.

Only 1 of them made it a media debacle.

Players get moved on from every club, every year. Does moving Farah on make him a 'bad player'? Of course not. Is Ballin a better player? Of course not. He is, however, a fraction of the cost, and clearly the coaching staff feel his personality is more in keeping with what they are looking to rebuild around.

I doubt the club has 'lied' to the fans about the salary cap issues. I believe they are true. Too much money is invested in this 1 player- Farah. The value, to the club, is not there. That in itself is a good reason to move him on. Move any player on.

Player clean-outs happen. It's part of how sporting clubs work. New coaches have new systems that existing players do not always fit into. Or there are personality clashes. Or players cost exceeds performance. Or the coach has a particular player they want at a club at the expense of others.

It's like people here have forgotten the player purge Tim Sheens put through when he got here.

It was the right thing to do then, it's the right thing to do now.

Farah is a carry-over from a regime that stopped working. He's too old & entrenched in his style of play to adapt & change readily. It's not a knock on Farah, it's just the way sport works.

And on top of that, there's an apparent personality clash. It could be something as simple as JT seeing the need to change things & Farah not agreeing with that (potentially selfishly as it means moving on from him) & the result is 2 guys not seeing eye to eye.

Not everything JT is doing here is because he's Satan's understudy.

It's just how sporting clubs work.

That's why there is the saying- no player is (or at least should be) bigger than the club.
 
I am not sure why we signed him, if we indeed have, but can only assume that it is to antagonise Robbie to show JT means business, or he came cheap as part of the Tapau deal. Maybe both.

Either way the coach has every right to strengthen his squad, whether that means 8 halfbacks or 12 hookers. If the signings are cheap and experienced and enables time for the talent in our junior ranks to mature then I have no objection. It is a gamble, and JT only has limited time for it to pay off.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Either way, this farce will need to be resolved. Did anyone play close attention to the face of the young fellow in the blue shirt to the right of Taylor at the beginning of the interview. Incredulity, bewilderment a picture tells a thousand words.
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Mmm, no. He was actually almost nodding in agreement with what Taylor was saying in response.
 
@mctiger said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Either way, this farce will need to be resolved. Did anyone play close attention to the face of the young fellow in the blue shirt to the right of Taylor at the beginning of the interview. Incredulity, bewilderment a picture tells a thousand words.

Mmm, no. He was actually almost nodding in agreement with what Taylor was saying in response.
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Don't let facts interfere with a good story mctiger. As we all know, Pawsandclaws has his own agenda in regards to Taylor and the club in general. Why he still follows them is beyond me.

Taylor and indeed any coach is entitled to have his own squad. He lives and dies by his selections. People on this forum are all to eager to believe anything they read/hear in the papers and on social media. Understand this, the club runs itself and NOT the aforementioned. This also includes the fans.

So it you don't like it, feel free to move to another club and stop belittling mine.
 
@ghost said:
Does anyone think that Taylor is a better coach then Robbie is a player?
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JT is no Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy, but his ability as a coach is grossly exaggerated. He's taken teams to finals. He got Parra there after taking over mid season when they were nearly coming last, the other was Souths for the first time in nearly 20 yrs. So as much as people want to ignore it, he has had success in his time as a coach.

As for Farah, he's on a steady decline. Only natural your game will dissipate when you turn north of 30 though.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
GNR4LIFE, finally we agree and well said!

"but his ability as a coach is grossly exaggerated'.
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Have to agree with that statement As wellPaws, and I have to admit that it's great that you and Gnr are at last on the same page. A long awaited meeting of like minds .Ill add my name to the list as well and add that I'm glad to see that GNR has come over from the dark side. And They said it'd never happen. :roll
 
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