Matt Ballin signs for two years - official

[gallagher]

U agree with Gallagher…great pair!

Ahh diddums. Didn't anyone from the farah camp back you up?
Btw, you not very good at not engaging trolls are you?

 

[NT_Tiger]

Matt Ballin is a good player…

He's a excellent player but we will be lucky to get 2 good seasons out of him,like Robbie they cop a beating and eventually the body says enough.

One big plus for us is Ballin will be focussed on performing for his new team WT.

 

[greatodensraven]

The way Matt Ballin has dealt with being told he is no longer required at Manly is almost the polar opposite of the way Robbie Farah has dealt with the same situation.

Obviously Farah is he incumbent starting #9 for the Tigers, while Ballin missed last season- but other than that, the situations are strangely similar, but dealt with in a way that should CLEARLY demonstrate both the correct way for players to react, plus the fact that the "Robbie Farah Situation" is not an isolated "Wests Tigers are the only club cutting players" type event.

Safe to say that Ballin is a 'loyal' Manly player, but when given the news his services were no longer required at the club, neither he or his 'agent' have made a public spectacle of the situation, no news leaks, no slanging match. just a professional attitude, from a guy that makes a living playing football.

Farah is also a guy that makes a living playing football. He's essentially a contractor, able to ply his trade with whoever contracts him to do so. In the real world, contracts are torn up, bought out, or changed quite often. Very rarely do these reneged contracts become media spectacles.

Paul Vautin gave Farah the tip on how to deal with it. In some ways, I thought Benji did too. Now the Tigers are putting a living example of how to deal with it within eyesight of him.

I honestly hope, for his sake, that he takes the tip. He will be paid, by the Tigers or whoever. He won't lose money. Hell, he might even have a chance of playing for a team that competes for a finals place next year with some clubs.

I'm a Tigers fan. I've cheered Robbie Farah since he came into my viewing. I don't get to make the call on who stays or goes. That's the coaches & front office that do that. If the coaches feel that the club needs to move on- for whatever reason- then I will go along with it. I'm not in the player meetings, or at training, or watching video of next weeks opposition. I'm not the guy putting forward game plans & asking guys to deploy them on the field. I'm also not the guy that has access to the financial books, or signs the contracts.

I have to assume that the guys that get these board positions, or coaching positions, get them with the knowledge that not all choices will sit well with supporters.

And knowing that Farah was such a popular player at the Tigers, you have to assume that when the decision to move him on was made, it wasn't done so by pulling names out of a hat.

there's a reason. Whatever it might be.

Farah should look at Matt Ballin & take the tip on how to deal with a decision made, before it ruins his next season, and at his age- potentially his career.

x 2

 

[greatodensraven]

The issue is Farah is the better player by a long way and with added motivation will start if there is no bias in the selection process. This is why I think the signing is odd as it will confirm an agenda if Ballin starts over Farah assuming he stays.

Farah has more strings to his bow - yes. But do we need that now with Moses, Brooks and Teddy? Nope.

However, disregarding individual skills, how do each of them make the team better? Robbie admitted that he will sulk for 2 days after a loss and people have to walk on eggshells. That's a problem. A big one.

A good leader has to be more resilient and positive otherwise they'll drag others down with them. I think you can see that often in our performances where we seem down, out and disinterested. JT made a big point this year about playing for 80 as we never have. We were better this year, but it was still a problem. Maybe some of these off-switches are from the lack of positive leadership around the place?

Even without a C next to his name, he'll be a leader each time he takes the field. So, I think JT will be looking for a behavioral shift, otherwise he will keep him out of the run on side. Maybe that's what JT see's in Ballin over Robbie. A positive professional. He certainly comes across that way in the interviews.

I think JT though this year will just try to lessen Robbie's influence. Him or Ballin will be on the bench and we'll play 2 hookers again.

x 2

 

[innsaneink]

The way Matt Ballin has dealt with being told he is no longer required at Manly is almost the polar opposite of the way Robbie Farah has dealt with the same situation.

Obviously Farah is he incumbent starting #9 for the Tigers, while Ballin missed last season- but other than that, the situations are strangely similar, but dealt with in a way that should CLEARLY demonstrate both the correct way for players to react, plus the fact that the "Robbie Farah Situation" is not an isolated "Wests Tigers are the only club cutting players" type event.

Safe to say that Ballin is a 'loyal' Manly player, but when given the news his services were no longer required at the club, neither he or his 'agent' have made a public spectacle of the situation, no news leaks, no slanging match. just a professional attitude, from a guy that makes a living playing football.

Farah is also a guy that makes a living playing football. He's essentially a contractor, able to ply his trade with whoever contracts him to do so. In the real world, contracts are torn up, bought out, or changed quite often. Very rarely do these reneged contracts become media spectacles.

Paul Vautin gave Farah the tip on how to deal with it. In some ways, I thought Benji did too. Now the Tigers are putting a living example of how to deal with it within eyesight of him.

I honestly hope, for his sake, that he takes the tip. He will be paid, by the Tigers or whoever. He won't lose money. Hell, he might even have a chance of playing for a team that competes for a finals place next year with some clubs.

I'm a Tigers fan. I've cheered Robbie Farah since he came into my viewing. I don't get to make the call on who stays or goes. That's the coaches & front office that do that. If the coaches feel that the club needs to move on- for whatever reason- then I will go along with it. I'm not in the player meetings, or at training, or watching video of next weeks opposition. I'm not the guy putting forward game plans & asking guys to deploy them on the field. I'm also not the guy that has access to the financial books, or signs the contracts.

I have to assume that the guys that get these board positions, or coaching positions, get them with the knowledge that not all choices will sit well with supporters.

And knowing that Farah was such a popular player at the Tigers, you have to assume that when the decision to move him on was made, it wasn't done so by pulling names out of a hat.

there's a reason. Whatever it might be.

Farah should look at Matt Ballin & take the tip on how to deal with a decision made, before it ruins his next season, and at his age- potentially his career.

A very balanced assessment.. Great post

 

[cktiger]

The way Matt Ballin has dealt with being told he is no longer required at Manly is almost **the polar opposite of the way Robbie Farah has dealt with the same situation.**

Obviously Farah is he incumbent starting #9 for the Tigers, while Ballin missed last season- but other than that, the situations are strangely similar, but dealt with in a way that should CLEARLY demonstrate both **the correct way for players to react,** plus the fact that the "Robbie Farah Situation" is not an isolated "Wests Tigers are the only club cutting players" type event.

Safe to say that Ballin is a 'loyal' Manly player, but **when given the news his services were no longer required at the club, neither he or his 'agent' have made a public spectacle of the situation, no news leaks, no slanging match. just a professional attitude,** from a guy that makes a living playing football.

Really?

This is what Ballin said after he was told they didn't want him….

When asked on Fox Sports if the Sea Eagles had told him he was not wanted, Ballin said: "Yeah, it has. I'm fully aware of that.

**"I disagree with what their reasons are for it and I'm going to stand up for what I believe in and what I think is best for the club and myself.**
"I decided to stay with the club at the start of the year when things weren't good and I wanted to make the club a better place.

**"I still hold that same belief and nothing has changed for me."**

You were saying? :laughing:

 

[batboy]

Pales in comparison to the garage spewing out of the farah camp….

 

[Pawsandclaws]

I'd say Chadman's effort is the Mississippi of manure, rather than garbage. It just keeps flowing.

 

[happy_tiger]

The way Matt Ballin has dealt with being told he is no longer required at Manly is almost **the polar opposite of the way Robbie Farah has dealt with the same situation.**

Obviously Farah is he incumbent starting #9 for the Tigers, while Ballin missed last season- but other than that, the situations are strangely similar, but dealt with in a way that should CLEARLY demonstrate both **the correct way for players to react,** plus the fact that the "Robbie Farah Situation" is not an isolated "Wests Tigers are the only club cutting players" type event.

Safe to say that Ballin is a 'loyal' Manly player, but **when given the news his services were no longer required at the club, neither he or his 'agent' have made a public spectacle of the situation, no news leaks, no slanging match. just a professional attitude,** from a guy that makes a living playing football.

Really?

This is what Ballin said after he was told they didn't want him….

When asked on Fox Sports if the Sea Eagles had told him he was not wanted, Ballin said: "Yeah, it has. I'm fully aware of that.

**"I disagree with what their reasons are for it and I'm going to stand up for what I believe in and what I think is best for the club and myself.**
"I decided to stay with the club at the start of the year when things weren't good and I wanted to make the club a better place.

**"I still hold that same belief and nothing has changed for me."**

You were saying? :laughing:

And you are trying to compare Farah's reaction to Ballin's ??

Farah has brought the Spanish Inquisition to the club :laughing:

 

[innsaneink]

I'd say Chadman's effort is the Mississippi of manure, rather than garbage. It just keeps flowing.

Thats pretty pathetic imo
Agree or disagree… But to simply bag a post like you have that's obviously had a lot of thought put into it is very weak

 

[guyofthetiger]

Matt Ballin is a good player…

He's a excellent player but we will be lucky to get 2 good seasons out of him,like Robbie they cop a beating and eventually the body says enough.

Before the knee injury didn't he have a straight run of 150+ games uninjured?

That's a good sign on the one hand, but on the other hand, you're right about a body taking a beating, especially without breaks…

 

[Pawsandclaws]

I'd say Chadman's effort is the Mississippi of manure, rather than garbage. It just keeps flowing.

Thats pretty pathetic imo
Agree or disagree… But to simply bag a post like you have that's obviously had a lot of thought put into it is very weak

Thought? :laughing:

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

I'd say Chadman's effort is the Mississippi of manure, rather than garbage. It just keeps flowing.

Thats pretty pathetic imo
Agree or disagree… But to simply bag a post like you have that's obviously had a lot of thought put into it is very weak

Thought? :laughing:

This is the exact type of reaction from the "holier than thou" posters on here that I think a few on here have come to expect.

I don't care if you agree or not, to be honest. Your opinion counts for nothing to me. But I don't go out of your way to belittle anything you post.

These threads become school yard bickering because of posters like you who refuse to look at others opinions & pay them any thought at all. It's always easy for those with nothing of note to actually say to try and bring others down to their level instead of raising themselves above the rubbish.

 

[lathami]

The way Matt Ballin has dealt with being told he is no longer required at Manly is almost the polar opposite of the way Robbie Farah has dealt with the same situation.

Obviously Farah is he incumbent starting #9 for the Tigers, while Ballin missed last season- but other than that, the situations are strangely similar, but dealt with in a way that should CLEARLY demonstrate both the correct way for players to react, plus the fact that the "Robbie Farah Situation" is not an isolated "Wests Tigers are the only club cutting players" type event.

Safe to say that Ballin is a 'loyal' Manly player, but when given the news his services were no longer required at the club, neither he or his 'agent' have made a public spectacle of the situation, no news leaks, no slanging match. just a professional attitude, from a guy that makes a living playing football.

Farah is also a guy that makes a living playing football. He's essentially a contractor, able to ply his trade with whoever contracts him to do so. In the real world, contracts are torn up, bought out, or changed quite often. Very rarely do these reneged contracts become media spectacles.

Paul Vautin gave Farah the tip on how to deal with it. In some ways, I thought Benji did too. Now the Tigers are putting a living example of how to deal with it within eyesight of him.

I honestly hope, for his sake, that he takes the tip. He will be paid, by the Tigers or whoever. He won't lose money. Hell, he might even have a chance of playing for a team that competes for a finals place next year with some clubs.

I'm a Tigers fan. I've cheered Robbie Farah since he came into my viewing. I don't get to make the call on who stays or goes. That's the coaches & front office that do that. If the coaches feel that the club needs to move on- for whatever reason- then I will go along with it. I'm not in the player meetings, or at training, or watching video of next weeks opposition. I'm not the guy putting forward game plans & asking guys to deploy them on the field. I'm also not the guy that has access to the financial books, or signs the contracts.

I have to assume that the guys that get these board positions, or coaching positions, get them with the knowledge that not all choices will sit well with supporters.

And knowing that Farah was such a popular player at the Tigers, you have to assume that when the decision to move him on was made, it wasn't done so by pulling names out of a hat.

there's a reason. Whatever it might be.

Farah should look at Matt Ballin & take the tip on how to deal with a decision made, before it ruins his next season, and at his age- potentially his career.

A very balanced assessment.. Great post

Balanced assessment?? Typical Farah hater comments, one supporting another farah hater.
WOW, well balanced…
Ballin has next to no profile compared to Farah!! Farah is the NSW SOO hooker not a guy who covered cam smith once ten years ago!!!
No one really cares what ballin thinks, not the press, not his old team, no one oh except the farah haters.
Again, crap comparison!!
I remember Ballin giving farah advice before telling him to do what he is doing, and bunker in at your club!! Yes a man who stands by his word!
You guys really have no idea....

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The way Matt Ballin has dealt with being told he is no longer required at Manly is almost the polar opposite of the way Robbie Farah has dealt with the same situation.

Obviously Farah is he incumbent starting #9 for the Tigers, while Ballin missed last season- but other than that, the situations are strangely similar, but dealt with in a way that should CLEARLY demonstrate both the correct way for players to react, plus the fact that the "Robbie Farah Situation" is not an isolated "Wests Tigers are the only club cutting players" type event.

Safe to say that Ballin is a 'loyal' Manly player, but when given the news his services were no longer required at the club, neither he or his 'agent' have made a public spectacle of the situation, no news leaks, no slanging match. just a professional attitude, from a guy that makes a living playing football.

Farah is also a guy that makes a living playing football. He's essentially a contractor, able to ply his trade with whoever contracts him to do so. In the real world, contracts are torn up, bought out, or changed quite often. Very rarely do these reneged contracts become media spectacles.

Paul Vautin gave Farah the tip on how to deal with it. In some ways, I thought Benji did too. Now the Tigers are putting a living example of how to deal with it within eyesight of him.

I honestly hope, for his sake, that he takes the tip. He will be paid, by the Tigers or whoever. He won't lose money. Hell, he might even have a chance of playing for a team that competes for a finals place next year with some clubs.

I'm a Tigers fan. I've cheered Robbie Farah since he came into my viewing. I don't get to make the call on who stays or goes. That's the coaches & front office that do that. If the coaches feel that the club needs to move on- for whatever reason- then I will go along with it. I'm not in the player meetings, or at training, or watching video of next weeks opposition. I'm not the guy putting forward game plans & asking guys to deploy them on the field. I'm also not the guy that has access to the financial books, or signs the contracts.

I have to assume that the guys that get these board positions, or coaching positions, get them with the knowledge that not all choices will sit well with supporters.

And knowing that Farah was such a popular player at the Tigers, you have to assume that when the decision to move him on was made, it wasn't done so by pulling names out of a hat.

there's a reason. Whatever it might be.

Farah should look at Matt Ballin & take the tip on how to deal with a decision made, before it ruins his next season, and at his age- potentially his career.

A very balanced assessment.. Great post

Balanced assessment?? Typical Farah hater comments, one supporting another farah hater.
WOW, well balanced…
Ballin has next to no profile compared to Farah!! Farah is the NSW SOO hooker not a guy who covered cam smith once ten years ago!!!
No one really cares what ballin thinks, not the press, not his old team, no one oh except the farah haters.
Again, crap comparison!!
I remember Ballin giving farah advice before telling him to do what he is doing, and bunker in at your club!! Yes a man who stands by his word!
You guys really have no idea....

Because your opinions are so well balanced and unbiased being a JT hater.

*nudge nudge wink wink*

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I have met Matt twice and on both occasions he has always come across as a level headed bloke. Anyone throwing sand at Ballin is going to look very foolish after his 2 years at this club.

He will be a statesman, much like John Morris was during his period at the club.

I look forward to seeing him in our squad every week!

 

[Tigersmurf]

Watto, I am convinced that you know more than you are letting on….

Your posts on this topic are very cryptic!

 

[Tiger_Watto]

just a fan of Matt and what he will bring to the club.

 

[innsaneink]

just a fan of Matt and what he will bring to the club.

ermahgerd!


 

[foreveratiger]

I have met Matt twice and on both occasions he has always come across as a level headed bloke. Anyone throwing sand at Ballin is going to look very foolish after his 2 years at this club.

He will be a statesman, much like John Morris was during his period at the club.

I look forward to seeing him in our squad every week!

Despite not agreeing with this signing in terms of other Positions need strengthening , but with Taupau being released i'm sure something would of been worked out and would of got Ballin for nothing .

A work colleague knows the Ballin Family well and despite saying that he got a big head a few years ago when he was in some League players Calender modelling there abbs or something along those lines he said :laughing: . But he did say they are a wonderful Family and he gives a lot of his time doing Charity work.

I've always been a massive admirer of Ballin , he is a complete tradesman and love his never say die mentality and competing till the end.
Ballin shouldn't be tarnished in all this Farah vs JT saga as it's not fair on him.

When the dust settles i will be cheering Ballin on like every other Wests Tigers player despite my thoughts on the whole situation between Farah and JT.