Matt Ballin

[LCA]

On what has been exposed so far in 2016, Farah is the best hooker we have. Am interested to see what Ballin brings, but Manaia hasn't delivered in his opportunities thus far.

 

[Snake]

On what has been exposed so far in 2016, Farah is the best hooker we have. Am interested to see what Ballin brings, but Manaia hasn't delivered in his opportunities thus far.

Well I am sure Ballin will have something to say about that.

 

[maxxy86]

On what has been exposed so far in 2016, Farah is the best hooker we have. Am interested to see what Ballin brings, but Manaia hasn't delivered in his opportunities thus far.

I will be interested also what ballin brings and where he actually will slot in.

 

[CocaCola]

If the club is serious about keeping Cherro, he should be given big minutes to get accustomed to top grade. From Origin onwards, Let him play first 30min, and back on for the last 20min.
Ballin in between. It's the only of putting the point across to Farah his time is up for 'next' year.

What have we got to lose playing all the youngsters & new recruits from this point forth. We may even end up above Parra on the table end of season if were lucky.

I personally wouldn't do this but let's say we should. What are the criteria to make that call. My take is that Cherrington has to be playing as per the best hooker in the club. Ballin has to be the second best.

At the moment Robbie is far and away our best option so making a decision like this seems like lunacy to me.

Farah may be the best player for the position atm, but not necessarily the best option to take given the current circumstances.

Lets be honest, the season is gone, or will be by the time S.O.O is over.

The team has done nothing even with Farah in the side, so what is the point of starting him ahead of Cherro or someone else. He can play 2nd fiddle or be dropped altogether.

The point of my post was to give Cherro or someone else a chance to gain experience & grow in confidence by playing valuable minutes in top flight. If the club is prepared to pay 600-800k to keep our halves, then what has it got to lose by giving extra game time to other youngsters who want to be apart of the clubs future.

Why risk losing a youngsters with many seasons ahead of them for the sake of allowing Farah to play out his contract because he is 'Origin' material. We won't be a premiership threat next season, no loss having Farah playing 2nd fiddle or playing in reserves.

 

[tigermac88]

Even unfit he would be dishing up more than Farah.
He can accumulate just as many tackles as well.

Farah has 6 from 6 losses so far.

5 from 5 actually…. Farah didn't play until rd 4

 

[stevetiger]

If the club is serious about keeping Cherro, he should be given big minutes to get accustomed to top grade. From Origin onwards, Let him play first 30min, and back on for the last 20min.
Ballin in between. It's the only of putting the point across to Farah his time is up for 'next' year.

What have we got to lose playing all the youngsters & new recruits from this point forth. We may even end up above Parra on the table end of season if were lucky.

I personally wouldn't do this but let's say we should. What are the criteria to make that call. My take is that Cherrington has to be playing as per the best hooker in the club. Ballin has to be the second best.

At the moment Robbie is far and away our best option so making a decision like this seems like lunacy to me.

Farah may be the best player for the position atm, but not necessarily the best option to take given the current circumstances.

Lets be honest, the season is gone, or will be by the time S.O.O is over.

The team has done nothing even with Farah in the side, so what is the point of starting him ahead of Cherro or someone else. He can play 2nd fiddle or be dropped altogether.

The point of my post was to give Cherro or someone else a chance to gain experience & grow in confidence by playing valuable minutes in top flight. If the club is prepared to pay 600-800k to keep our halves, then what has it got to lose by giving extra game time to other youngsters who want to be apart of the clubs future.

Why risk losing a youngsters with many seasons ahead of them for the sake of allowing Farah to play out his contract because he is 'Origin' material. We won't be a premiership threat next season, no loss having Farah playing 2nd fiddle or playing in reserves.

I'll tell you why I think that this is the wrong option. We need to win games and we need to choose the best player in each position.

Players need to earn their position. If they are good enough give it to them but if they aren't let them learn in state cup or a lower grade.

 

[CocaCola]

I'll tell you why I think that this is the wrong option. We need to win games and we need to choose the best player in each position.

Players need to earn their position. If they are good enough give it to them but if they aren't let them learn in state cup or a lower grade.

Fair call, I can agree with having to earn the spot. Just difficult with a coach reluctant to select & drop players based on form.

 

[ryanda01]

Even unfit he would be dishing up more than Farah.
He can accumulate just as many tackles as well.

Farah has 6 from 6 losses so far.

5 from 5 actually…. Farah didn't play until rd 4

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story….

 

[tigermac88]

Even unfit he would be dishing up more than Farah.
He can accumulate just as many tackles as well.

Farah has 6 from 6 losses so far.

5 from 5 actually…. Farah didn't play until rd 4

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story….

I'm just making the point that Farah wasn't involved in all our losses, we were pretty awful in the Titans game and Farah didn't play… I think Farah needs to move on for the good of the club but to insinuate that we are losing because of Farah is way off the mark

 

[ryanda01]

Even unfit he would be dishing up more than Farah.
He can accumulate just as many tackles as well.

Farah has 6 from 6 losses so far.

5 from 5 actually…. Farah didn't play until rd 4

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story….

I'm just making the point that Farah wasn't involved in all our losses, we were pretty awful in the Titans game and Farah didn't play… I think Farah needs to move on for the good of the club but to insinuate that we are losing because of Farah is way off the mark

Sorry; didn't put my sarcasm emoticon in my initial post. :wink:

I agree with you; the yawn was from reading the same 'JT this' and 'Farah that.' Blame should be spread across the entire WT operation. The scapegoats are numerous, far and wide. From top to bottom and side to side. Its not 1 person's fault we are in the mess we are in.

 

[WTDiehard]

I'd play robbie and ballin for 40 min each in the hooking role and they can then maybe play another 10-20 minutes each at lock depending on how much game time they get.

I think it will work well.

 

[gallagher]

I'd play robbie and ballin for 40 min each in the hooking role and they can then maybe play another 10-20 minutes each at lock depending on how much game time they get.

I think it will work well.

I can't see how two small blokes defending in the middle will work out. We're already small.

 

[happy_tiger]

If the club is serious about keeping Cherro, he should be given big minutes to get accustomed to top grade. From Origin onwards, Let him play first 30min, and back on for the last 20min.
Ballin in between. It's the only of putting the point across to Farah his time is up for 'next' year.

What have we got to lose playing all the youngsters & new recruits from this point forth. We may even end up above Parra on the table end of season if were lucky.

I personally wouldn't do this but let's say we should. What are the criteria to make that call. My take is that Cherrington has to be playing as per the best hooker in the club. Ballin has to be the second best.

At the moment Robbie is far and away our best option so making a decision like this seems like lunacy to me.

Farah may be the best player for the position atm, but not necessarily the best option to take given the current circumstances.

Lets be honest, the season is gone, or will be by the time S.O.O is over.

The team has done nothing even with Farah in the side, so what is the point of starting him ahead of Cherro or someone else. He can play 2nd fiddle or be dropped altogether.

The point of my post was to give Cherro or someone else a chance to gain experience & grow in confidence by playing valuable minutes in top flight. If the club is prepared to pay 600-800k to keep our halves, then what has it got to lose by giving extra game time to other youngsters who want to be apart of the clubs future.

Why risk losing a youngsters with many seasons ahead of them for the sake of allowing Farah to play out his contract because he is 'Origin' material. We won't be a premiership threat next season, no loss having Farah playing 2nd fiddle or playing in reserves.

I'll tell you why I think that this is the wrong option. We need to win games and we need to choose the best player in each position.

Players need to earn their position. If they are good enough give it to them but if they aren't let them learn in state cup or a lower grade.

Steve we'd have about 9 blokes playing every week , we don't have enough quality players to fill 17 spots

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

I'm hoping he sparks something for us upon his return
Nothing better than good old rivalry and competition for spot in the team

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

If the club is serious about keeping Cherro, he should be given big minutes to get accustomed to top grade. From Origin onwards, Let him play first 30min, and back on for the last 20min.
Ballin in between. It's the only of putting the point across to Farah his time is up for 'next' year.

What have we got to lose playing all the youngsters & new recruits from this point forth. We may even end up above Parra on the table end of season if were lucky.

I personally wouldn't do this but let's say we should. What are the criteria to make that call. My take is that Cherrington has to be playing as per the best hooker in the club. Ballin has to be the second best.

At the moment Robbie is far and away our best option so making a decision like this seems like lunacy to me.

Farah may be the best player for the position atm, but not necessarily the best option to take given the current circumstances.

Lets be honest, the season is gone, or will be by the time S.O.O is over.

The team has done nothing even with Farah in the side, so what is the point of starting him ahead of Cherro or someone else. He can play 2nd fiddle or be dropped altogether.

The point of my post was to give Cherro or someone else a chance to gain experience & grow in confidence by playing valuable minutes in top flight. If the club is prepared to pay 600-800k to keep our halves, then what has it got to lose by giving extra game time to other youngsters who want to be apart of the clubs future.

Why risk losing a youngsters with many seasons ahead of them for the sake of allowing Farah to play out his contract because he is 'Origin' material. We won't be a premiership threat next season, no loss having Farah playing 2nd fiddle or playing in reserves.

I'll tell you why I think that this is the wrong option. We need to win games and we need to choose the best player in each position.

Players need to earn their position. If they are good enough give it to them but if they aren't let them learn in state cup or a lower grade.

Haven't we learned anything from this season, look at the problems that we already have with p platers in the halves( our defence is stretched like a rubber band already , let alone another small player who has trouble stopping players.
We need some big , hard tackling forwards, before we throw any more little blokes in to get run over.
Shannon Boyd and the other big Boppers would be rubbing their hands together thinking about Cherrington, Brooks And Moses , all defending on our goal line at the same time
Before we wreck another career, let's worry about getting some real forwards first .

 

[Fumbles]

When Ballin returns to the top grade this is when Farah spits the dummy!

No, that will happen when Ennis gets selected ahead of him for S00.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

I'm hoping he sparks something for us upon his return
Nothing better than good old rivalry and competition for spot in the team

Competition for spots in this team counts for little up to this point. This has to change.