MAYWEATHER VS PACQUIAO

@happy tiger said:
If they have the same reach , Mayweather has to come forward

That makes a huge difference , he can't fight off his defence and the counter like he did yesterday

I thought you knew a bit about boxing

I do and technically I agree with you. However in this instance, in this fight, between these two guys you are totally misinformed. Even if they had the same reach Floyd wins easy. Only way he loses is if he stuffs up and cops a rapid head combo.
You are not on your own, a lot of casual observers don't appreciate how Floyd won. Manny doesn't even get it! He is even now making excuses of an injured shoulder lmao….
 
@stryker said:
@stevetiger said:
I'd like to see Manny get given the fight because he was the aggressor. Scoring like that makes for a terrible spectator event. I don't think Floyd would be a star like he is in MMA because that style isn't rewarded.

LOL what are you talking about?
Fighting isn't just about hitting, its about making the other guy miss or at least nullifying his impact. Floyd taught Manny how to box yesterday.

I thought what I said made a lot of sense. In MMA part of the scoring is based upon being the aggressor. Sometimes fighters lose because they weren't aggressive.

Mayweather is a fantastic boxer and he uses the rules to his advantage but its simply boring to watch. If they amended the rules then he would be forced into trying to finish the fight rather than just point fight to victory.

That was a terrible spectacle.
 
We sound like professional Boxers here :laughing: .
Anyway IMO Mayweather is the Champion , he's holding the belt , so he knew that Manny will bring the fight to him . Manny through a lot of wasted punches at Mayweather with not much thought process what he was aiming to achieve .
Mayweather was defensively unbelievable and through more scoring punches on the counter , it's not how many punches you throw it's the counting punches that count and Mayweather taught him a Boxing lesson .
Mayweather didn't need to chase the fight his holding the belts and for that reason knew when to counter .
 
@stevetiger said:
@stryker said:
@stevetiger said:
I'd like to see Manny get given the fight because he was the aggressor. Scoring like that makes for a terrible spectator event. I don't think Floyd would be a star like he is in MMA because that style isn't rewarded.

LOL what are you talking about?
Fighting isn't just about hitting, its about making the other guy miss or at least nullifying his impact. Floyd taught Manny how to box yesterday.

I thought what I said made a lot of sense. In MMA part of the scoring is based upon being the aggressor. Sometimes fighters lose because they weren't aggressive.

Mayweather is a fantastic boxer and he uses the rules to his advantage but its simply boring to watch. If they amended the rules then he would be forced into trying to finish the fight rather than just point fight to victory.

That was a terrible spectacle.

Boxing is similar , if they have trouble splitting a round usually the aggressor is rewarded with the 10 points

MMA bouts can be just as bad as any boxing matches

I have seen a few that the crowd boos the fighters off

Don't blame the boxers or fighters , blame the promoters , you can usually see what will be an ugly match in either MMA or boxing

The boxers /fighters will try and stick to their strengths and force the opposition to fight their fight

That doesn't always work no matter how good they are
 
@happy tiger said:
MMA bouts can be just as bad as any boxing matches

I agree that there can be some terrible fights in MMA as well. In stating that Mayweather wouldn't get promoted if he fought like that in MMA. He does it consistently as well.

I don't blame the promoters. They can't make the guys fight once they are in there.

I can also see how good Mayweather is. Technically he is amazing. Still I don't really care. He is boring to watch.
 
Don't get me wrong having the reach is obviously of benefit but I also believe Mayweather wins without the reach advantage. Mayweathers too skill full. Pacman would have still have had to be the aggressor to take the title away and Mayweather still the counter puncher. To take the title of a bloke that is 47/0 it was going to have to be decisive. Especially in the USA. So manny had to attack and be the aggressor.

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What do you mean he didn't fight Steve?
He threw more punches and landed way more than Manny. Your criticism is misplaced.

I've seen tonnes of MMA fights that are WAYworse. Ever since they introduced rounds MMA has gone to the dogs.
 
@stevetiger said:
I thought what I said made a lot of sense. In MMA part of the scoring is based upon being the aggressor. Sometimes fighters lose because they weren't aggressive.

Mayweather is a fantastic boxer and he uses the rules to his advantage but its simply boring to watch. If they amended the rules then he would be forced into trying to finish the fight rather than just point fight to victory.

That was a terrible spectacle.

What you said makes little sense. You want Manny to be awarded victory because he appeared more aggressive? Manny employed a poor game plan…trying to outbox one of the best tacticians ever...then had no plan B. He should have stuck to his strengths and came out swinging but instead seemed pensive and gun shy, a likely result of him being KO'd by Marquez. His strength is volume of punches (got beat) and aggression. Every time he tried to cut the ring off Floyd got away and usually landed a hard right in the process. Whenever he tried to wrong foot Floyd by stepping right to create attacking angles, it was simply corrected by May weather's body movements. He looked confused and utterly powerless to score. He was too slow and essentially outclassed. He provided no defence and fell into Floyd's traps time and again. I had him clearly winning only 2 rounds with a maximum possibility of 2 others...thats being generous.

But you are right, he looked more like someone fighting in a movie so he should have won LMFAO.
 
@stryker said:
What you said makes little sense. You want Manny to be awarded victory because he appeared more aggressive? Manny employed a poor game plan…trying to outbox one of the best tacticians ever...then had no plan B. He should have stuck to his strengths and came out swinging but instead seemed pensive and gun shy, a likely result of him being KO'd by Marquez. His strength is volume of punches (got beat) and aggression. Every time he tried to cut the ring off Floyd got away and usually landed a hard right in the process. Whenever he tried to wrong foot Floyd by stepping right to create attacking angles, it was simply corrected by May weather's body movements. He looked confused and utterly powerless to score. He was too slow and essentially outclassed. He provided no defence and fell into Floyd's traps time and again. I had him clearly winning only 2 rounds with a maximum possibility of 2 others...thats being generous.

But you are right, he looked more like someone fighting in a movie so he should have won LMFAO.

Dude - chillaxe a little. You sound like an arrogant loser who just wants to be right. I don't think anything that you stated makes any sense at all and I think you completely missed the point that I was making. Keep up the good work though.

I like most other people that I know thought that was a terribly boring fight and I think that boxing may need to change its format if they want to remain relevant. I used to watch a lot of boxing fights. Now I don't watch it and that fight is exactly why I don't watch it.
 
To be able to avoid being hit for 12x3min by one of the best boxers in years is an extreme talent in itself that many aren't appreciating. Add to that Mayweathers supreme counterpunching. Sure it's not a slugfest brawl but should be appreciated for what it is. You don't go 48/0 by brawling.

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@grrrrrrrrrr said:
To be able to avoid being hit for 12x3min by one of the best boxers in years is an extreme talent in itself that many aren't appreciating. Add to that Mayweathers supreme counterpunching. Sure it's not a slugfest brawl but should be appreciated for what it is. You don't go 48/0 by brawling.

Just to be clear. I can see Mayweathers skill level. He is an amazing boxer. Yes he avoids punches really well. He is also a master at clinching whenever he is in any sort of trouble. He is basically a master at avoiding fighting at anywhere other than his range where he is brilliant.

That performance though was completely lacklustre and boring. It sucked.
 
@stevetiger said:
I don't think anything that you stated makes any sense at all…

I like most other people that I know thought that was a terribly boring fight and I think that boxing may need to change its format if they want to remain relevant. I used to watch a lot of boxing fights. Now I don't watch it and that fight is exactly why I don't watch it.

You don't think anything I stated makes sense at all? Lol that is because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. It wasn't a classic fight and won't attract new fans to the sport but on a purists level it was a good fight from Mayweather.

Boxing is not going to change its format because casual viewers like you and your mates can't understand what is happening. MMA is taking over…so what? That's hardly news. It appeals to the basic side of humans who require savagery to placate their bloodlust. I enjoy it just as much as I do the technical side of boxing.

Finally I understand people being disappointed with that event but fair dinkum...the marketing for it was ludicrous. You have to do your own research. That was never going to be the spectacle people thought it would be.
 
@stevetiger said:
@grrrrrrrrrr said:
To be able to avoid being hit for 12x3min by one of the best boxers in years is an extreme talent in itself that many aren't appreciating. Add to that Mayweathers supreme counterpunching. Sure it's not a slugfest brawl but should be appreciated for what it is. You don't go 48/0 by brawling.

Just to be clear. I can see Mayweathers skill level. He is an amazing boxer. Yes he avoids punches really well. He is also a master at clinching whenever he is in any sort of trouble. He is basically a master at avoiding fighting at anywhere other than his range where he is brilliant.

LOL he doesn't avoid fighting he threw and landed more than Manny.
 
Must be all that practice on his ex. Read the kids letter about it. The guy is an absolute disgrace. Makes our league guys look like saints

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FLOYD Mayweather’s former gal pal has filed a $20 million defamation lawsuit against the boxing champ, after he denied beating her up — in a crime that cost him two months behind bars.

Josie Harris, mother of three children with Mayweather, claimed she’s been harmed by Mayweather’s lies to Katie Couric in a televised interview two weeks ago.

Not only did Mayweather deny beating Harris, the boxer said he had to “restrain” her because she was high on drugs during the 2010 incident in Las Vegas.

“Did I kick, stomp and beat someone? No, that didn’t happen,” Floyd told Couric. “I look in your face and say, ‘No, that didn’t happen.’

“Did I restrain a woman that was on drugs?” he continued. “Yes, I did. So if they say that’s domestic violence, then, you know what? I’m guilty. I’m guilty of restraining someone.”

The courts didn’t share Mayweather’s view of the facts. He was convicted of misdemeanour domestic battery and served two months behind bars in 2012.

Mayweather said he was only convicted because he’s black and successful.

“I’m black. I’m rich. And I’m outspoken. Those are three strikes right there,” he said, explaining away the conviction.

Harris filed her civil complaint against Mayweather on Tuesday in Los Angeles Superior Court, a rep for her lawyer said. She spoke of the abuse in an interview last year with USA Today.

Mayweather’s 2010 beating of Harris was particularly disturbing because he did it in front of his young son.

Koraun Mayweather, 10 at the time, wrote a statement to police describing the attack: “I saw my dad on my mom … my dad was hitting her.”

Mayweather, self-nicknamed “Money,” made more than $180 million from a pay-per-view brawl this weekend against longtime rival Manny Pacquiao.

“Money” won by unanimous decision and improved his professional record to 48-0.

A rep for Mayweather could not be immediately reached for comment on Tuesday.

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i guess all the sharks are coming out - they want their pay day too
 
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