McIntyre

@jirskyr said in [McIntyre](/post/1264185) said:
A lot of hullabaloo in a Sam McIntyre thread. Didn't want to lose him but he's played 12 games total and been concussed a few times. I didn't really want to lose Eisenhuth either as that type of bench / backup capable forward.

On the other hand everyone was totally happy to write McIntyre off before he debuted and he's been at the club a few years now.

I'll reserve judgement to see what the club does with the roster during the pre-season, given there seems to be so much late movement these days.

I understand what you're saying - but for the money, which I assume is not much from us or the Titans, there's a lot of value.

You mention Eiso, I didn't want him gone either, this loss makes it even worse that we didn't keep him. I'd assume if we had known Mac would leave, we would have never let Eiso go.

Terrible mismanagement given what THE_POM said.
 
@Aesopian said in [McIntyre](/post/1264052) said:
Pro's & Cons for Big Mac at WT's or GC

**WT's**
Pro's:

* Consistent 1st grade playing time

* That's it

Cons:

* Demountables

* Carpark for a gym

* Rudderless management


* Expensive real estate

* Minimum wage contract offer

**GC**
Pro's:

* Decent facilities

* Aggressive management

* 1 Home ground

* Affordable real estate

* Higher salary to sit in reserve grade

* Great weather

Cons:

* Not competitive but maybe that changes next season

* That's it


When I put it like that I know where I'd rather sign:grimacing: :grimacing:

Roosters? $$$
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [McIntyre](/post/1263717) said:
Look he’s not a huge loss, solid player the big question is will his money (which wasn’t much) be used well and will we replace him

We need another second rower at the club otherwise one injury and it’s literally Chee Kam on the bench and that’s not good enough

The money saved will probably buy the board a round of coffee - he was on peanuts.

Titans wouldn't have offered him much to beat our measly offer.
 
Have followed Tigers since I was about 8 years old and that is a very, very, long time ago and there have been a lot of disappointments along the way, but I have to say that today is right up there with them.
 
Magoulias would definitely be a solid replacement for McIntyre and we have showed interest in him apparently
 
@Russell said in [McIntyre](/post/1264194) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [McIntyre](/post/1263717) said:
Look he’s not a huge loss, solid player the big question is will his money (which wasn’t much) be used well and will we replace him

We need another second rower at the club otherwise one injury and it’s literally Chee Kam on the bench and that’s not good enough

The money saved will probably buy the board a round of coffee - he was on peanuts.

Titans wouldn't have offered him much to beat our measly offer.

The Pom is saying it was an offer too good to refuse, if that is the case then we shouldn't have been matching it. We should have already had him signed up though and that is where we made a mistake
 
@Russell said in [McIntyre](/post/1264194) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [McIntyre](/post/1263717) said:
Look he’s not a huge loss, solid player the big question is will his money (which wasn’t much) be used well and will we replace him

We need another second rower at the club otherwise one injury and it’s literally Chee Kam on the bench and that’s not good enough

The money saved will probably buy the board a round of coffee - he was on peanuts.

Titans wouldn't have offered him much to beat our measly offer.

He still wouldn’t be on much but $250k instead of $130k is a big upgrade so can’t blame him for taking that.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [McIntyre](/post/1264198) said:
@Russell said in [McIntyre](/post/1264194) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [McIntyre](/post/1263717) said:
Look he’s not a huge loss, solid player the big question is will his money (which wasn’t much) be used well and will we replace him

We need another second rower at the club otherwise one injury and it’s literally Chee Kam on the bench and that’s not good enough

The money saved will probably buy the board a round of coffee - he was on peanuts.

Titans wouldn't have offered him much to beat our measly offer.

He still wouldn’t be on much but $250k instead of $130k is a big upgrade so can’t blame him for taking that.

And if that are the numbers we are talking about then there is no way we should be matching that.
 
@cochise said in [McIntyre](/post/1264197) said:
@Russell said in [McIntyre](/post/1264194) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [McIntyre](/post/1263717) said:
Look he’s not a huge loss, solid player the big question is will his money (which wasn’t much) be used well and will we replace him

We need another second rower at the club otherwise one injury and it’s literally Chee Kam on the bench and that’s not good enough

The money saved will probably buy the board a round of coffee - he was on peanuts.

Titans wouldn't have offered him much to beat our measly offer.

The Pom is saying it was an offer too good to refuse, if that is the case then we shouldn't have been matching it. We should have already had him signed up though and that is where we made a mistake


According to the Pom we sat on the contract for about 2 weeks and that is unforgivable.
 
@InBenjiWeTrust said in [McIntyre](/post/1264174) said:
There is something strange with our system, somehow we manage to keep players that have minimum capabilities (e.g. Jordan, Lulia, Buchanan etc.) and they stay with us like forever, while we cannot keep better players e.g. Koroibete, Martin, Papenhousen, N Brown, and now Aloiai and McIntyre.
There was a period with Sheens when the system worked much better, and we continuously acquired better players.

Lets face it. A decent club with management that actually knows how to run a football club would've found a way of getting rid of Reynolds, Packer and Mbye a long time ago. But no, we are held hostage by these contracts and will probably sign up similar contracts again in the meantime. Hopefully someone in this club that has the power to make this club change, actually does it. I've just about had enough.
 
@hank37w said in [McIntyre](/post/1264202) said:
@cochise said in [McIntyre](/post/1264197) said:
@Russell said in [McIntyre](/post/1264194) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [McIntyre](/post/1263717) said:
Look he’s not a huge loss, solid player the big question is will his money (which wasn’t much) be used well and will we replace him

We need another second rower at the club otherwise one injury and it’s literally Chee Kam on the bench and that’s not good enough

The money saved will probably buy the board a round of coffee - he was on peanuts.

Titans wouldn't have offered him much to beat our measly offer.

The Pom is saying it was an offer too good to refuse, if that is the case then we shouldn't have been matching it. We should have already had him signed up though and that is where we made a mistake


According to the Pom we sat on the contract for about 2 weeks and that is unforgivable.

I have already stated that is where we made te mistake, unless there was something else at play.
 
@Tcat said in [McIntyre](/post/1264203) said:
@InBenjiWeTrust said in [McIntyre](/post/1264174) said:
There is something strange with our system, somehow we manage to keep players that have minimum capabilities (e.g. Jordan, Lulia, Buchanan etc.) and they stay with us like forever, while we cannot keep better players e.g. Koroibete, Martin, Papenhousen, N Brown, and now Aloiai and McIntyre.
There was a period with Sheens when the system worked much better, and we continuously acquired better players.

Lets face it. A decent club with management that actually knows how to run a football club would've found a way of getting rid of Reynolds, Packer and Mbye a long time ago. But no, we are held hostage by these contracts and will probably sign up similar contracts again in the meantime. Hopefully someone in this club that has the power to make this club change, actually does it. I've just about had enough.

No other club would have got rid of those contracts, Reynold and Packer in particular. The real issue is other clubs, outside of the Bulldogs and Dragons, wouldn't have put themselves in the position to have to get rid of those contracts in the first place.
 
how different would our ability to attract players be even if we didn't have the overpaid players on our staff? The only thing would be that we would still throw overs at players who don't deserve it just to get a name through the door....It's not our coach, it's our culture
 
@AnnandaleTiger said in [McIntyre](/post/1264201) said:
Sam Mc isn’t the difference between 10th and the spoon.

Absolutely, but we’ve also lost Harry Grant, who was our best player, and signed only Tamou and Stefano (whilst also letting go of Eisenhuth and Taylor in addition to McIntyre). As it stands we have gone backwards whilst the teams that finished below us have made beneficial changes.
 
@cochise said in [McIntyre](/post/1264207) said:
@Tcat said in [McIntyre](/post/1264203) said:
@InBenjiWeTrust said in [McIntyre](/post/1264174) said:
There is something strange with our system, somehow we manage to keep players that have minimum capabilities (e.g. Jordan, Lulia, Buchanan etc.) and they stay with us like forever, while we cannot keep better players e.g. Koroibete, Martin, Papenhousen, N Brown, and now Aloiai and McIntyre.
There was a period with Sheens when the system worked much better, and we continuously acquired better players.

Lets face it. A decent club with management that actually knows how to run a football club would've found a way of getting rid of Reynolds, Packer and Mbye a long time ago. But no, we are held hostage by these contracts and will probably sign up similar contracts again in the meantime. Hopefully someone in this club that has the power to make this club change, actually does it. I've just about had enough.

No other club would have got rid of those contracts, Reynold and Packer in particular. The real issue is other clubs, outside of the Bulldogs and Dragons, wouldn't have put themselves in the position to have to get rid of those contracts in the first place.

Souths would've got rid of them.
 
@hank37w said in [McIntyre](/post/1264195) said:
Have followed Tigers since I was about 8 years old and that is a very, very, long time ago and there have been a lot of disappointments along the way, but I have to say that today is right up there with them.

LOL ! Geez we know how to make a mountain out of a mole hill . Was he solid ? Yep ! Am I dissappointed we lost him ? Yep , but can we relax with this type of stuff . If he’s still in first grade in 5 years I’ll be surprised .
 
If the club has someone lined up to come in great,thought the guy earnt the new contract and an upgrade,tigers developed him,debuted and now will continue his development at another club
 
@TigerWest said in [McIntyre](/post/1264152) said:
@CarltonDry said in [McIntyre](/post/1264139) said:
The boys called him Madges love child and McIntyre was happy playing under Madge. The info I heard was Hartigan wasn't really a fan so maybe they've got somebody else on the hook ?‍♂️
I just don't understand why Maguire wasn't all over this, it's not like he was distracted with finals footy ?‍♂️

Well the footy structure shows that Hartigan is his boss?

Sport is different to the corporate world.
I remember talking to Steve Rixon about whether he was interested in coaching the Australian cricket when it was vacant a few years ago. He told me he'd have to talk to Ricky Ponting 1st, I said why and he said they have to be on the same page going forward and whether they could work together so I'd say in the NRL the coach would have the final say and the structure is just for business purposes. It does show worrying signs of what's going on in recruitment
 
@Tcat said in [McIntyre](/post/1264211) said:
@cochise said in [McIntyre](/post/1264207) said:
@Tcat said in [McIntyre](/post/1264203) said:
@InBenjiWeTrust said in [McIntyre](/post/1264174) said:
There is something strange with our system, somehow we manage to keep players that have minimum capabilities (e.g. Jordan, Lulia, Buchanan etc.) and they stay with us like forever, while we cannot keep better players e.g. Koroibete, Martin, Papenhousen, N Brown, and now Aloiai and McIntyre.
There was a period with Sheens when the system worked much better, and we continuously acquired better players.

Lets face it. A decent club with management that actually knows how to run a football club would've found a way of getting rid of Reynolds, Packer and Mbye a long time ago. But no, we are held hostage by these contracts and will probably sign up similar contracts again in the meantime. Hopefully someone in this club that has the power to make this club change, actually does it. I've just about had enough.

No other club would have got rid of those contracts, Reynold and Packer in particular. The real issue is other clubs, outside of the Bulldogs and Dragons, wouldn't have put themselves in the position to have to get rid of those contracts in the first place.

Souths would've got rid of them.

Wouldn't have signed them in the 1st place.
 

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