MCK

[colinbh]

Clutch is the best defensive centre in the game with 96% efficiency. 2 missed out of 51 made

Yeah! right.

That is correct. On NRL360 tonight.

 

[Tigers_Tale]

He is one of the weak links.

Falls off tackles, really low footy IQ, carefree attitude.

Has to go.

With BJ out I am dreading MCK at center...will be slaughtered by Souths backs. Hopefully Madge can see that.

Hope he has a revelation back to last year when he slaughtered the Souths backs on his own to win us the game...he did it to the Broncs as well...anyway he has my support because he plays for the mighty WTs...


He has had two flukey plays in almost 100 games.

And about 100 bad tackle attempts and misreads.

I like your confidence and attitude. But let's say we brought back Nick Graham and Kyle Lovett...using your logic you would be happy with them also.

MCK is no Kyle Lovett , stop being so pessimistic, i cannot remember anytime Kyle Lovett beat players to score a try in FG. Your assumption of MCK is ridiculous.

 

[jaydee]

Why not talau to centre ?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

lawrence is a better option than chee kam

Yes, he would be if only he knew how to hold onto the ball.

Very cheap shot to one of our most loyal players.

Would've expected better Lil.

From my point of view Russell it wasn’t a cheap shot, not at all, I’m just a realist and as much as I love Chris as a person and a player who has represented himself and the WTs with nothing but the best of intentions I just think his played that one season to long.

I'm with you Lil. Love Rowdy, been a great clubman but I think he's gone one too long also.

 

[Russell]

lawrence is a better option than chee kam

Yes, he would be if only he knew how to hold onto the ball.

Very cheap shot to one of our most loyal players.

Would've expected better Lil.

From my point of view Russell it wasn’t a cheap shot, not at all, I’m just a realist and as much as I love Chris as a person and a player who has represented himself and the WTs with nothing but the best of intentions I just think his played that one season to long.

Maybe it wasn't a cheap shot but... (we know he has played a season too long, so has Benji so did Farah etc.) that doesn't come into it.

For you and Avo to say he has "Hands like feet" imo is totally unfair. Everyone admits he has run great lines and at top speed - it is very difficult to take a pass that is thrown at you (when you are a metre away or less) like you where four metres away. It is called "soft hands" and most of the time when Rowdy dropped the ball this did not occur.

Your opinions are your opinions but I feel it is a bit unfair to blame the receiver rather than the provider.

 

[Sart0ri]

If the short ball is thrown early and slowly to make it easier to catch, it is also much easier to defend

 

[Russell]

If the short ball is thrown early and slowly to make it easier to catch, it is also much easier to defend

Ok mate, whatever.

 

[avocadoontoast]

lawrence is a better option than chee kam

Yes, he would be if only he knew how to hold onto the ball.

Very cheap shot to one of our most loyal players.

Would've expected better Lil.

From my point of view Russell it wasn’t a cheap shot, not at all, I’m just a realist and as much as I love Chris as a person and a player who has represented himself and the WTs with nothing but the best of intentions I just think his played that one season to long.

Maybe it wasn't a cheap shot but... (we know he has played a season too long, so has Benji so did Farah etc.) that doesn't come into it.

For you and Avo to say he has "Hands like feet" imo is totally unfair. Everyone admits he has run great lines and at top speed - it is very difficult to take a pass that is thrown at you (when you are a metre away or less) like you where four metres away. It is called "soft hands" and most of the time when Rowdy dropped the ball this did not occur.

Your opinions are your opinions but I feel it is a bit unfair to blame the receiver rather than the provider.

Russ he drops them no matter how far or close he is. He has bad hands and he’s played too long. He should have retired years ago.

 

[JD Tiger]

lawrence is a better option than chee kam

Yes, he would be if only he knew how to hold onto the ball.

Very cheap shot to one of our most loyal players.

Would've expected better Lil.

From my point of view Russell it wasn’t a cheap shot, not at all, I’m just a realist and as much as I love Chris as a person and a player who has represented himself and the WTs with nothing but the best of intentions I just think his played that one season to long.

Maybe it wasn't a cheap shot but... (we know he has played a season too long, so has Benji so did Farah etc.) that doesn't come into it.

For you and Avo to say he has "Hands like feet" imo is totally unfair. Everyone admits he has run great lines and at top speed - it is very difficult to take a pass that is thrown at you (when you are a metre away or less) like you where four metres away. It is called "soft hands" and most of the time when Rowdy dropped the ball this did not occur.

Your opinions are your opinions but I feel it is a bit unfair to blame the receiver rather than the provider.

Russ he drops them no matter how far or close he is. He has bad hands and he’s played too long. He should have retired years ago.

He's had a good run. 2006 he debuted, bloody good effort that into what 15 seasons.

 

[happy_tiger]

lawrence is a better option than chee kam

Yes, he would be if only he knew how to hold onto the ball.

Very cheap shot to one of our most loyal players.

Would've expected better Lil.

From my point of view Russell it wasn’t a cheap shot, not at all, I’m just a realist and as much as I love Chris as a person and a player who has represented himself and the WTs with nothing but the best of intentions I just think his played that one season to long.

Maybe it wasn't a cheap shot but... (we know he has played a season too long, so has Benji so did Farah etc.) that doesn't come into it.

For you and Avo to say he has "Hands like feet" imo is totally unfair. Everyone admits he has run great lines and at top speed - it is very difficult to take a pass that is thrown at you (when you are a metre away or less) like you where four metres away. It is called "soft hands" and most of the time when Rowdy dropped the ball this did not occur.

Your opinions are your opinions but I feel it is a bit unfair to blame the receiver rather than the provider.

It's not so much the speed of the pass ...but putting the pass in the right spot

The pass needs to be quick to aid the deception

The idea is the defender you are isolating needs to keep sliding and be totally focussed on the ball ....then the attacking player can slightly alter their line

So either Brooks is throwing the ball into the hole ...or Rowdy isn't running the right line

Every action gets a reaction ...that's the difference between a play maker and a reactionary player

 

[Needaname]

Which one is it then?
And which player is he?

 

[rustycage]

Isn't this an MCK thread???

 

[Deleted member 3518]

If the short ball is thrown early and slowly to make it easier to catch, it is also much easier to defend

That’s not true . You can teach yourself to throw that short ball , with the same deception , but not launch it into someone’s chest .

 

[Sart0ri]

That’s not true . You can teach yourself to throw that short ball , with the same deception , but not launch it into someone’s chest .

Which part of what I said is not true?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

That’s not true . You can teach yourself to throw that short ball , with the same deception , but not launch it into someone’s chest .

Which part of what I said is not true?

The fact that you can throw it softly will be easier to defend . It’s about controlling the release , rather than the arm motion . You can also throw it early if you have a lightning quick over 10m hole runner. Like early Lawrence for example . He’s lost some toe , so the pass has to be thrown really late in the defensive line .

 

[TrueTiger]

If the short ball is thrown early and slowly to make it easier to catch, it is also much easier to defend

That’s not true . You can teach yourself to throw that short ball , with the same deception , but not launch it into someone’s chest .

I have to agree,having played in the backline for many years you learn to pass the ball at a speed that will get the ball to the man running onto the ball so he can run onto the ball and therefore catch and run in a motion that he keeps going on the line he was running..what it means is the receiver shouldn't have to deviate from the line he was running because the ball was behind him, to fast at him and he had to stop to maintain possession of the ball,its a flowing motion and that is what they call soft hands...its a technique that takes a lot of practice and is used by many good ballplayers to feed the backline..
it does take a lot to perfect the pass,some are good at it some not so good..if you take what I said and look at it from Rowdys point of view he may have been on the end of some ""bullet passes"" and therefore couldn't maintain possession,its not Lukes fault entirely because he is trying to get the ball out in a speedy fashion,Rowdy may have run a line but was slightly out and the pass was to quick for him...
Im just giving an opinion that may help some on the forum understand that it really is technique and practice,Rowdy played at centre in his early days and didn't have handling errors as much as he has today...its 2 sides of the coin for me,speed of the pass..or..changing his running line that just fractionally puts the ball in a grab position and not taking it on the chest ...

 

[jirskyr]

I'll tell you what it is about Rowdy - literally the only bloke in the side willing to run suicide lines in order to get that occasional hole. And Brooks willing to throw it anytime half a hole opens up.

And now he's doing it from the backrow, i.e. into increased cover (including other backrowers), compared to running those lines 1-1 with opposition centres.

When you only ever have 1 bloke running at holes, makes him easier to pick up.

It's the same Rowdy who was running holes everywhere at the start of his career, except he was a centre and Benji Marshall was playing left side and throwing deft passes. Not that Brooks can't, but he often lacks the softness and timing of Benji.

I don't honestly think Rowdy's somehow forgotten how to catch a football. I think he's got true footballing instincts and will run tough lines all day, and the current halves are so desperate for hole-running options that they' throw the pass rather than holding on.

Everything else nowadays for Tigers is second-man sweep stuff. Garner and Luci want early ball, they don't really seem to want to run hard lines. Garner particularly, he can do it, but his preference appears to be bump-runs with slightly early ball, hoping to trample the opposition half if he can isolate them.