Micheal Hagan speaks

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Tigers for the title
Posted by Michael Hagan - Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:26
I can hear the words of every coach in the NRL at this very moment.

"Our attitude has been great through summer. We can handle the expectation and our roster is stronger."

The optimism is flowing. Sadly though for eight of the 16 teams, 2011 will be a failure.

I was asked for my opening column to name a top eight and look at each team.

It was damn hard but here goes. In order, Wests Tigers, Dragons, Roosters, Raiders, Bulldogs, Storm, Titans and Panthers.

TITANS: Been there for two years but fallen over late. They will need to settle on a new number six with Mat Rogers having retired. That will probably be Greg Bird. A few of their senior players are now a year older so I reckon they really need to go hard this year before their roster changes dramatically.

KNIGHTS: They still can't quite settle on their halves. Beau Henry is a top young kid but has no NRL experience. Neville Costigan and Chris Houston will boost the Knights pack but I still think they lack a quality front-rower.

SEA EAGLES: Brett Stewart and David Williams return to give Manly some needed speed. The big question though is over young halfback Daly Cherry-Evans. Can he handle first grade? If so, Manly are in for a robust season.

RABBITOHS: They really need to show some improvement. I reckon Sam Burgess will be better in his second year and Greg Inglis will obviously give Souths some clout out wide. But I still have question marks over their halves, John Sutton and Chris Sandow.

DRAGONS: Strong across the park. Will be right there again come September. Lost a couple of 'hard head' forwards in Neville Costigan and Jeremy Smith but the club has strong depth.

ROOSTERS: Have the best halves in the NRL in Mitchell Pearce and Todd Carney. I really like the look of their forward pack too. They are really solid up front. Some thought last year's effort was a fluke but I reckon they will go close again.

TIGERS: They came within one point of the grand final last year. Robert Lui, their half-back, seems to have come along in giant strides and the return of Tim Moltzen will be a massive boost. How could you overlook the skills of Robbie Farah and Benji Marshall? My tip to win the title.

BULLDOGS: Been the most aggressive club in the market place. Trent Hodkinson and Kris Keating look the goods in the halves. Throw in Aiden Tolman, Frank Pritchard and Greg Eastwood - they are a quality side.

EELS: Reckon my old club may just miss out on a finals spot. But they will be a different team under Steve Kearney. They probably need to improve with their attitude, and they will under the Kiwi coach.

PANTHERS: Finished top four but I can't see them repeating that this year. Will be in the finals, but I reckon in about eighth spot. They have a handy roster but some believe they may have over-achieved last year.

STORM: Top eight material even with a depleted roster. Any team with Slater, Blair, Smith and Cronk will play finals footy.

RAIDERS: Will desperately miss Terry Campese for the opening 10 to 12 weeks. But Matt Orford's experience will go a long to cover for Campese. Big forwards. A top four pick for mine.

BRONCOS: Peter Wallace and Darren Lockyer never quite complimented each other last year. But that could change this year. Having Justin Hodges back will be huge for the Broncos. I never write off a Broncos side.

COWBOYS: The team under the most pressure. Had a huge turnover of players which makes it difficult to get any combinations. I don't think they will go much better than last year.

WARRIORS: A dangerous looking side. I like the look of their forwards and the inclusion of Krisnan Inu and Feleti Mateo will give the Warriors some real creativity.

SHARKS: Top-notch pack but still questions over their halves. Like previous years, points will be a problem. They will be physical but where will the points come from?
 
Are the many people tipping Panthers to make the 8 ?
I can't see it myself, maybe 9th…
For me THE WARRIORS are definitely making the 8, perhaps even a top 4 finish for them.
We'll see how it works out.
 
The Warriors are my smokey for the title, they've got a very good side. Young Maloney is a very exciting prospect, they ran 5th last season, they were the Toyota Cup premiers, so there is plenty of young talent, they've bought well (Steve Rapira, Inu, Mateo and Shaun Berrigan), there really is a lot to like about them this season, but as I've learned, when there is a lot to like about the Warriors, they usually have a poor season.
 
I like the Warriors as well but more importanly I look forward to Souffs imploding again. Poor old Johnny Lang doesn't seem the coach to get them anywhere this year
 
@Demps said:
Are the many people tipping Panthers to make the 8 ?
I can't see it myself, maybe 9th…
For me THE WARRIORS are definitely making the 8, perhaps even a top 4 finish for them.
We'll see how it works out.

yeah i had them in my 8 Demps Solid forward pack still If they keep backline fit they will be thereabouts
 
I reckon I have seen about 12 Jornos/ex coaches make their predictions for the title this year. And about 10 have predicted we will win it. It is a very bizzarre feeling. Scary in a way!
 
@Eddie said:
I reckon I have seen about 12 Jornos/ex coaches make their predictions for the title this year. And about 10 have predicted we will win it. It is a very bizzarre feeling. Scary in a way!

Wow long time no see Eddie. Good to have you back on the forum sharing your opinion!
 
@Alf Duguid said:
I like the Warriors as well but more importanly I look forward to Souffs imploding again. Poor old Johnny Lang doesn't seem the coach to get them anywhere this year

Souff Synney will go no where until they get themselves some decent halves. Sutton I think would make a good foil to a good halfback, but Sandow is a long way from being a good halfback. They can have the best backs in the world, but it's no good if they don't get quality ball.
 
Sutton is over rated. An Anasta replica. More of a wide running ball playing back rower, but as a primary play maker he just doesn't have it IMO.
Souths need one more marquee in their 1,6,7,9\. Luke is one of the top hookers in the game. Sandow is hit and miss, definitely not an organising half. Wesser is just old.

Hagan's optimism in the Eels is funny. Wooden spooners FO SHO
 
@alex said:
Sutton is over rated. An Anasta replica. More of a wide running ball playing back rower, but as a primary play maker he just doesn't have it IMO.
Souths need one more marquee in their 1,6,7,9\. Luke is one of the top hookers in the game. Sandow is hit and miss, definitely not an organising half. Wesser is just old.

Hagan's optimism in the Eels is funny. Wooden spooners FO SHO

Throw Sutton next to Cronk or Prince and he will look a much better player. He's not the type of player you want as your go to man, but as a one play a set guy he would be very good.

I'm unsure about Parra this year, plenty of ordinary players, but only 2 seasons back Hayne carried them deep into the finals, along with Fui, if both find their best form I guess they can make the 8.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
@alex said:
Sutton is over rated. An Anasta replica. More of a wide running ball playing back rower, but as a primary play maker he just doesn't have it IMO.
Souths need one more marquee in their 1,6,7,9\. Luke is one of the top hookers in the game. Sandow is hit and miss, definitely not an organising half. Wesser is just old.

Hagan's optimism in the Eels is funny. Wooden spooners FO SHO

Throw Sutton next to Cronk or Prince and he will look a much better player. He's not the type of player you want as your go to man, but as a one play a set guy he would be very good.

I'm unsure about Parra this year, plenty of ordinary players, but only 2 seasons back Hayne carried them deep into the finals, along with Fui, if both find their best form I guess they can make the 8.

IMO Parra and Raiders will fight out last spot in 8 Stephen Kearnry will make a big difference
 
@Marshall_magic said:
The Warriors are my smokey for the title, they've got a very good side. Young Maloney is a very exciting prospect, they ran 5th last season, they were the Toyota Cup premiers, so there is plenty of young talent, they've bought well (Steve Rapira, Inu, Mateo and Shaun Berrigan), there really is a lot to like about them this season, but as I've learned, when there is a lot to like about the Warriors, they usually have a poor season.

pffft…

A title will be a long time coming for NZ mate!!!

Although Berrigan will be a great buy!!!

As for NYC - half their team left to move to Australia!!!
 
I take everything Hagan says with a grain of salt. He held the title of coach merely ceremoniously at the Andrew Johns captained/coached Newcastle and his run at Parramatta further reinforced my opinion of him.

I'd rather listen to bee-sting head.
 
@redemption said:
@alex said:
Campese gone for the first 10-12 weeks? Is it seriously that long?

It was supposed to be even longer!

Thought it was only going to be a 4-6 week thing. Seeing as it was a knee injury he may not start full training until around now, so I can't really imagine he and Orford getting any sort of combinations this year. Could be a frustrating year for the Raiders, but I'm excited to see how their young back line goes with Dugan, Ferguson and Vidot.
 
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