Mitch Moses

@Magpie Magic said:
Thanks for confirming that guys.

This aint good for our club. Both are not winning us games atm and like someone said when one plays well the other doesn't and if they get good they might be gone anyways.

Both are showing promise but our attack is breaking down in the halves atm causing team to be predictable and hence not wearing opponents down thats why we often don't do well SH of games.

And to think we were slow to sign teddy!

A hodgo or Maloney with their kicking game alongside one of them wpuld work wonders and improve their game.

Now we are committed but they aren't so were do we go from here?

Just have to wait and hope.
 
@sparro said:
You're 100% wrong Milky Moses and Sirro both will receive 600k 2017 plus THEY have the option to stay…..I know its hard to believe .Ive never heard of such contracts given to Rookies...Why do u think they sacked Grant Meyer....He got them into this salary cap mess...Why u think they wont drop Moses back to NSW Cup....cause they're paying him a fortune......The West Board left to sort out this mess....

Absolutely do not believe those figures.

660k for both of them, maybe
 
@Magpie Magic said:
Thanks for confirming that guys.

This aint good for our club. Both are not winning us games atm and like someone said when one plays well the other doesn't and if they get good they might be gone anyways.

Both are showing promise but our attack is breaking down in the halves atm causing team to be predictable and hence not wearing opponents down thats why we often don't do well SH of games.

And to think we were slow to sign teddy!

A hodgo or Maloney with their kicking game alongside one of them wpuld work wonders and improve their game.

Now we are committed but they aren't so were do we go from here?

Mitchell ain't gonna go anywhere - he is a true Wests Tiger, I suspect Luke is as well.
 
I still think the figures tossed up are false sorry, Brooks has no manager, nor does Moses. When Brooks came off contract he asked his dad to get him a decent deal, he wants to stay at tigers and not go anywhere else. I doubt tigers would have came out and given them 600k each, maybe between the two yes.
 
@Milky said:
I still think the figures tossed up are false sorry, Brooks has no manager, nor does Moses. When Brooks came off contract he asked his dad to get him a decent deal, he wants to stay at tigers and not go anywhere else. I doubt tigers would have came out and given them 600k each, maybe between the two yes.

I think you are on the money Milky - not them.
 
@Milky said:
I still think the figures tossed up are false sorry, Brooks has no manager, nor does Moses. When Brooks came off contract he asked his dad to get him a decent deal, he wants to stay at tigers and not go anywhere else. I doubt tigers would have came out and given them 600k each, maybe between the two yes.

Moses and Brooks appear very loyal to WTs and more importantly to their team mates. I find it hard to believe some of our supporters immediately believe these young men would be disloyal to a club which has nutured them from a young age via the mighty Balmain Tigers.
 
@Russell said:
@sparro said:
You're 100% wrong Milky Moses and Sirro both will receive 600k 2017 plus THEY have the option to stay…..I know its hard to believe .Ive never heard of such contracts given to Rookies...Why do u think they sacked Grant Meyer....He got them into this salary cap mess...Why u think they wont drop Moses back to NSW Cup....cause they're paying him a fortune......The West Board left to sort out this mess....

Absolutely do not believe those figures.

660k for both of them, maybe

Russ, it was in the same report from Marina Go when she was talking about the three yrs salary cap mess. And stated by the journo who wrote the story, and it stated that the option is in their favour.
And it was on one of the football segments on Brisbane radio about a week later.and as others have said on fox, Seeing it was part of the article that Marina was in, I would imagine that if it was wrong, that at some time she would have made sure it was retracted or denied. As they have lately backed away from some of what she said about not being able to buy players.
At no time on the two occasions was Sironens or anyone else's name mentioned.
That's the figures that were used, so if you haven't seen or heard it how do you know that it's wrong. . I'm just telling you what was said, as are others that saw it on Fox
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Milky said:
I still think the figures tossed up are false sorry, Brooks has no manager, nor does Moses. When Brooks came off contract he asked his dad to get him a decent deal, he wants to stay at tigers and not go anywhere else. I doubt tigers would have came out and given them 600k each, maybe between the two yes.

Moses and Brooks appear very loyal to WTs and more importantly to their team mates. I find it hard to believe some of our supporters immediately believe these young men would be disloyal to a club which has nutured them from a young age via the mighty Balmain Tigers.

Paws once again you jump to conclusions, I at no stage mentioned anything about the kids being disloyal to the WTs, it was about the contracts if those reports were true,and the possible ramifications if those facts were right( and as I said , I've seen no retractions or denials anywhere about them.
And why would you think that It would be disloyal for them to look elsewhere if they had the chance at that time. ?
They have a finite time to make as much as they can from the game, and as long as they have fulfilled their end of their contract , they like any players, have to do what's best for them, and get as much as they can, while they can.
Clubs show little loyalty to players, once they no longer want someone, So players have to look at their own future. No one else will
But if you have seen a denial of those reports , please tell us where.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Russell said:
@sparro said:
You're 100% wrong Milky Moses and Sirro both will receive 600k 2017 plus THEY have the option to stay…..I know its hard to believe .Ive never heard of such contracts given to Rookies...Why do u think they sacked Grant Meyer....He got them into this salary cap mess...Why u think they wont drop Moses back to NSW Cup....cause they're paying him a fortune......The West Board left to sort out this mess....

Absolutely do not believe those figures.

660k for both of them, maybe

Russ, it was in the same report from Marina Go when she was talking about the three yrs salary cap mess. And stated by the journo who wrote the story, and it stated that the option is in their favour.
And it was on one of the football segments on Brisbane radio about a week later.and as others have said on fox, Seeing it was part of the article that Marina was involved in, I would imagine that if it was wrong, that at some time she would have made sure it was retracted or denied. As they have lately backed away from some of what she said about not being able to buy players.
At no time on the two occasions was Sironens or anyone else's name mentioned.
That's the figures that were used, so if you haven't seen or heard it how do you know that it's wrong. . I'm just telling you what was said, as are others that saw it reported on Fox
 
Apology!!
Sorry, I had the wrong article, however the content was correct. It was actually in a post started by Ricksen on the 25 July.

"SMH article, Wests Tigers adamant they are on track for top four finish in 2017"
As I'm almost computer illiterate , I don't know how to put a link, but it's in Ricksens post, for anyone who wishes to read it.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Milky said:
I still think the figures tossed up are false sorry, Brooks has no manager, nor does Moses. When Brooks came off contract he asked his dad to get him a decent deal, he wants to stay at tigers and not go anywhere else. I doubt tigers would have came out and given them 600k each, maybe between the two yes.

Moses and Brooks appear very loyal to WTs and more importantly to their team mates. I find it hard to believe some of our supporters immediately believe these young men would be disloyal to a club which has nutured them from a young age via the mighty Balmain Tigers.

Paws once again you jump to conclusions, I at no stage mentioned anything about the kids being disloyal to the WTs, it was about the contracts if those reports were true,and the possible ramifications if those facts were right( and as I said , I've seen no retractions or denials anywhere about them.
And why would you think that they would be disloyal to look elsewhere if they had the chance at that time.
They have a finite time to make as much as they can from the game, and as long as they have fulfilled their end of their contract , they like any players, have to do what's best for them, clubs show little loyalty once they don't want someone, players have to look at their future. No one else will
But if you have seen a denial of those reports , please tell us where.

You are the one claiming to have facts, you prove him wrong with your "reports", not having a dig but i am intersested.
 
I too saw this report somewhere recently and was shocked.
What's Marty and teddy worth then?
What about the friction this will cause from others knowing theres no money left for them?
Good young players but have major reservations about them ever being good enough to organize team.

With these numbers they will be loyal because nobody else will offer more.
 
@Milky said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
@Milky said:
I still think the figures tossed up are false sorry, Brooks has no manager, nor does Moses. When Brooks came off contract he asked his dad to get him a decent deal, he wants to stay at tigers and not go anywhere else. I doubt tigers would have came out and given them 600k each, maybe between the two yes.

Moses and Brooks appear very loyal to WTs and more importantly to their team mates. I find it hard to believe some of our supporters immediately believe these young men would be disloyal to a club which has nutured them from a young age via the mighty Balmain Tigers.

Paws once again you jump to conclusions, I at no stage mentioned anything about the kids being disloyal to the WTs, it was about the contracts if those reports were true,and the possible ramifications if those facts were right( and as I said , I've seen no retractions or denials anywhere about them.
And why would you think that they would be disloyal to look elsewhere if they had the chance at that time.
They have a finite time to make as much as they can from the game, and as long as they have fulfilled their end of their contract , they like any players, have to do what's best for them, clubs show little loyalty once they don't want someone, players have to look at their future. No one else will
But if you have seen a denial of those reports , please tell us where.

You are the one claiming to have facts, you prove him wrong with your "reports", not having a dig but i am intersested.

milky,
I'm not claiming anything , Simply saying what was in the Sydney Morning Herald And was posted in an earlier thread by Ricksen, . , And what was also spoken about on a Fox sports show, and on radio.
I know that a lot here, who chose not to believe anything in the press that they don't agree with . But its there in black and white . I'm also pointing out that there have been no denials from the club or anyone else. ( they wouldn't give any details anyway , and rightly so) but I'm sure that if the report was wrong that they would at least come out and say it was wrong , as they did when they back flipped on what Marina said in another newspaper( the Australian, I think)about not being able to recruit players.
It's easy for any of us to say, "that's 100% wrong," because we don't like something,
But wanting something to be wrong , doesn't make it wrong,

I don't know myself if it's right or not, but obviously neither does any of us.
After seeing other things that we have done in the not too distant past with contracts and Backloading etc. I would not be a bit surprised if it was spot on.
I'm just as interested to find out if it's right as you are
I'm simply asking Russ and Paws, what information they have that means it's not an accurate report .they must have something pretty tangible to be so adamant that it's not true.
Or is that just wishful thinking.
 
Magic ,
the only possible reason that I can see for this if it's true, is that Mayer or whoever did their contracts, backloaded them until 2017, ( knowing what was coming with our cap mess) and also gave them the option. Either way , we have set ourselves for possible problems at that time. (Before all the deniers start getting flustered, I said , **possible** problems.)
For what it's worth, they both become free agents on November 1st
 
Not worth 600k not even 300k. Biggest con job I have ever seen. Paid top dollar for two average players and happy to let our best player walk. No wonder Grant Mayer was sacked.

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@Fumbles said:
Not worth 600k not even 300k. Biggest con job I have ever seen. Paid top dollar for two average players and **happy to let our best player walk**. No wonder Grant Mayer was sacked.

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Last time I looked we still had all our rep players.
We are talking a year and a half rom now - if they remain injury free in first grade and keep developing who's to say they won't be worth that?
Halves demand the big money - that's just the way it is.
 
Stil cheaper than DCE and Foran at the moment. I expect them to get to this level of Quality in a few short years
 
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