Mitchell Moses released [Official]

[Sco77y]

I'm never going to tire of reading this sort of stat line:

7\. Mitch Moses - 80 minutes, 0m from 1 run (0m per run), 16 tackles, 1 error, 1 penalty conceded & 2 missed tackles.

(Also: no line break assists, no try assists, two clear misreads costing tries).

I wonder if Parra fans are starting to get just a little worried?

Wow, he looked bad sure, but I didn't know he was that bad. Gutherson looked to be shutting him out at times, hopefully has given up on him. Glad to see the inept defence he graced us with has carried over to the Eels.. Where's your "bodyguards"? Lol.

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

They hardly targeted Moses side in defence and the times they did they came up with meters and points.

They will be kicking themselves when they watch the video of the game.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

yet he'll be the one to make way for Norman.

Both Gus and Sterlo alluded to Moses having to make way, they really weren't complimentary at all. Gave me a little smile, hate the praise the little 3 have been getting when they haven't deserved it.

Not sure who you regard as the little three, but if two of them are Teddy and Woods, they were our best two and got plenty of credit from the media on Saturday , and in the highest level of all, SOO. Tedesco was only second to a freakish game by Fifita, and Woods had a good one too.
They deserved all the credit that they received

 

[clokan]

yet he'll be the one to make way for Norman.

Both Gus and Sterlo alluded to Moses having to make way, they really weren't complimentary at all. Gave me a little smile, hate the praise the little 3 have been getting when they haven't deserved it.

Not sure who you regard as the little three, but if two of them are Teddy and Woods, they were our best two and got plenty of credit from the media on Saturday , and in the highest level of all, SOO. Tedesco was only second to a freakish game by Fifita, and Woods had a good one too.
They deserved all the credit that they received

Yes, they were both great last week, and maybe I'm being harsh on Woods who has been good all year for us. However Tedesco has been pretty average leading up to origin. Don't give two hoots how they play for origin, only care about Wests Tigers

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Stereo making interesting comments on his show tonight. He didn't say Moses should be dropped but he strongly stated that with Norman returning, Gutherson should not be moved from the halves and French should not be moved from fullback. Unspoken question - where does precious Mitch play?

 

[Nelson]

Stereo making interesting comments on his show tonight. He didn't say Moses should be dropped but he strongly stated that with Norman returning, Gutherson should not be moved from the halves and French should not be moved from fullback. Unspoken question - where does precious Mitch play?

It will either be:

1\. French 3\. Gutherson 6\. Moses 7\. Norman; or
1\. Gutherson 2\. French 6\. Moses 7\. Norman

The powers that be at Parra decided to spend big money on Moses, they're not going to send him to Wenty after a couple of weeks because it will reflect badly on them. Sterlo is talking about what is best for the team but the powerbrokers will be more interested in what's best for them.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

Stereo making interesting comments on his show tonight. He didn't say Moses should be dropped but he strongly stated that with Norman returning, Gutherson should not be moved from the halves and French should not be moved from fullback. Unspoken question - where does precious Mitch play?

It will either be:

1\. French 3\. Gutherson 6\. Moses 7\. Norman; or
1\. Gutherson 2\. French 6\. Moses 7\. Norman

The powers that be at Parra decided to spend big money on Moses, they're not going to send him to Wenty after a couple of weeks because it will reflect badly on them. Sterlo is talking about what is best for the team but the powerbrokers will be more interested in what's best for them.

Talk gutho to 9 too with brown I guess. Make sense with pritchard being KO every round

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Stereo making interesting comments on his show tonight. He didn't say Moses should be dropped but he strongly stated that with Norman returning, Gutherson should not be moved from the halves and French should not be moved from fullback. Unspoken question - where does precious Mitch play?

It will either be:

1\. French 3\. Gutherson 6\. Moses 7\. Norman; or
1\. Gutherson 2\. French 6\. Moses 7\. Norman

The powers that be at Parra decided to spend big money on Moses, they're not going to send him to Wenty after a couple of weeks because it will reflect badly on them. Sterlo is talking about what is best for the team but the powerbrokers will be more interested in what's best for them.

Yeah I agree 100% - just think it's interesting that already there's discussion about Moses not being first choice in the halves

 

[NT_Tiger]

Stereo making interesting comments on his show tonight. He didn't say Moses should be dropped but he strongly stated that with Norman returning, Gutherson should not be moved from the halves and French should not be moved from fullback. Unspoken question - where does precious Mitch play?

It will either be:

1\. French 3\. Gutherson 6\. Moses 7\. Norman; or
1\. Gutherson 2\. French 6\. Moses 7\. Norman

The powers that be at Parra decided to spend big money on Moses, they're not going to send him to Wenty after a couple of weeks because it will reflect badly on them. Sterlo is talking about what is best for the team but the powerbrokers will be more interested in what's best for them.

True, but one would think Sterlo has a lot of influence on those powerbrokers. He's not a nuffy like our own backdoor.

 

[vlad]

Stereo making interesting comments on his show tonight. He didn't say Moses should be dropped but he strongly stated that with Norman returning, Gutherson should not be moved from the halves and French should not be moved from fullback. Unspoken question - where does precious Mitch play?

It will either be:

1\. French 3\. Gutherson 6\. Moses 7\. Norman; or
1\. Gutherson 2\. French 6\. Moses 7\. Norman

The powers that be at Parra decided to spend big money on Moses, they're not going to send him to Wenty after a couple of weeks because it will reflect badly on them. Sterlo is talking about what is best for the team but the powerbrokers will be more interested in what's best for them.

Yeah I agree 100% - just think it's interesting that already there's discussion about Moses not being first choice in the halves

They might be looking for their receipt soon . Unfortunately for Parra we have a no refunds policy .

 

[WestsBenTigers]

If you haven't already watch how bad Moses' defence is

http://www.nrl.com/rd-13-eels-v-warriors-hls/tabid/10959/contentid/916133/default.aspx\

 

[Spartan117]

MM has talent and even good intent at times in defense.

However,

at the rumored 750K a season. That's not good Value.

I wonder how the other up and coming players at the Eels will feel if they are missing out on their share of the shrinking pie.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

During my big walk last night I watched the local footie team practise defence, 2 defending against 3 and 3 defending against 4\. They practised dozens of times and they are only a "C" grade outfit with appropriate coach. I can't recall one person left standing there like a bride at the altar.

 

[jirskyr]

During my big walk last night I watched the local footie team practise defence, 2 defending against 3 and 3 defending against 4\. They practised dozens of times and they are only a "C" grade outfit with appropriate coach. I can't recall one person left standing there like a bride at the altar.

In fairness they are defending against a "C" grade attack.

But I take your point. Any decent touch footballer knows how to defend the extra man and put their body in the right space, similarly to run where the holes are. In NRL it's even more critical because you can't just tag with wide arms, you have to put your frame in the space.

Moses not only gets his reads wrong, he's not entirely effective when he attempts tackles anyway. There are only 4 rules to defence:
1) hold the planned shape/strategy
2) number up and watch their movements
3) keep your feet moving and put yourself in the right space, especially if your inside men move
4) affect the tackle, around the ball if possible

Moses regularly fails at all of these. Even notoriously bad defenders like Benji, Maloney, Brooks, Soward, they'd get some of these regularly right, even if they weren't great tacklers. Moses puts his whole defensive line at risk, makes really bad tackle reads and gets shrugged off too often.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[stryker]

Surely Parra wont relegate their star recruit.
I hope our club is watching and keeping in touch with Gutho. He does not deserve to be moved to the wing so that Moses can play.

 

[TrueTiger]

Surely Parra wont relegate their star recruit.
I hope our club is watching and keeping in touch with Gutho. He does not deserve to be moved to the wing so that Moses can play.

Pleasing to see you can make fair and reasonable comments at times Stryker …

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Surely Parra wont relegate their star recruit.
I hope our club is watching and keeping in touch with Gutho. He does not deserve to be moved to the wing so that Moses can play.

He'll go to fullback and French will go to the wing.

 

[sideline_eye]

Surely Parra wont relegate their star recruit.
I hope our club is watching and keeping in touch with Gutho. He does not deserve to be moved to the wing so that Moses can play.

He'll go to fullback and French will go to the wing.

How would you feel, being pushed out of your favoured spot by Moses?

 

[upthetigers]

Surely Parra wont relegate their star recruit.
I hope our club is watching and keeping in touch with Gutho. He does not deserve to be moved to the wing so that Moses can play.

He'll go to fullback and French will go to the wing.

Yep French has speed to burn on the wing. He is too small for fullback.