Mitchell Moses Suspension Thread

[WTDiehard]

Well in the end MM can cop the two week ban…..I don't think that MM is necessarily a racist/bigot or homophobic. I do think it was a stupid thing to say, but I just like things to be consistent for everyone.
The next time a player is vilified for whatever reason ( race, religion, hair color, color lipstick)...that the league comes down on him in the same manner.
If we are to be fair and just to all then we all deserve the same protection, otherwise we start creating interest groups that are more important than others........and then we really do have DISCRIMINATION !!!

 

[Newtown]

Well in the end MM can cop the two week ban…..I don't think that MM is necessarily a racist/bigot or homophobic. I do think it was a stupid thing to say, but I just like things to be consistent for everyone.
The next time a player is vilified for whatever reason ( race, religion, hair color, color lipstick)...that the league comes down on him in the same manner.
If we are to be fair and just to all then we all deserve the same protection, otherwise we start creating interest groups that are more important than others........and then we really do have DISCRIMINATION !!!

When watching NRL on TV you don't have to be proficient in lip reading to know what some of these players are saying/swearing. If the NRL is fair it should also hit these players as hard as they have Moses. Take a look at the many players after they become frustrated and/or make critical mistakes. Immediately when this occurs the TV camera most often focuses on this player's face and it is clear to all and sundry what the players have uttered. By the way see if you can recall the swearing from a number of Wests Tigers players uttered when they were interviewed by Matthew Johns immediately after they won the 2005 grand final. With millions of viewers watching and listening it was at that time thought to be just live emotion. Not much complaint from NRL then.

 

[innsaneink]

Even this old fossil knows the difference between swearing out of frustration and verbal abuse//gay vilification

 

[magpiecol]

Well said WTDH.

What a load!!

People can take offence both ways, no pun intended. Get over it. The C word has been given the green light by no lesser person than a Magistrate ( and a female one at that )

Two weeks. Please.

 

[innsaneink]

http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/austin-nrl-ban-moses/

AUSTIN: NRL RIGHT TO BAN MOSES
Tigers
May 6, 2014
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Wests Tigers five-eighth Blake Austin says the NRL took the right action in suspending team mate Mitchell Moses for his homophobic slur during Saturday’s Under-20s Origin.

Moses, 19, was suspended for two matches yesterday after being identified as the player who called Queensland and Raiders lock Luke Bateman a “f****** gay c***” during the heated match.

Austin says that while Moses’ slur was merely a “throwaway line” made during the heat of battle, the punishment was justified.

“Obviously the NRL has taken a stance and I think it’s the way to go in the day and age we’re in,” Austin says.

“I by no means condone which Mitchell said . . . I believe that rugby league is a game for everyone.

“I want to see everyone who wants to enjoy rugby league enjoy rugby league.”

Austin says he hopes that players will learn from the incident and is encouraging the NRL to continue educating players on appropriate on-field behaviour.

“It’s a great opportunity to really educate the players on what can and can’t be said,” Austin says.

“It’s a really good chance to move forward and grow as a game.”

- STEVEN RUSSO

 

[Newtown]

Even this old fossil knows the difference between swearing out of frustration and verbal abuse//gay vilification

Did Moses swore because of frustration or for verbal abuse//gay vilification? I believe it was out of frustration which is usually always the case on a football field. So in future no swearing at anyone on the football field.

 

[Newtown]

Even this old fossil knows the difference between swearing out of frustration and verbal abuse//gay vilification

Did Moses swore because of frustration or for verbal abuse//gay vilification? I believe it was out of frustration which is usually always the case on a football field. So in future no swearing, out of frustration or otherwise at anyone, on the football field.

 

[LCA]

Well said WTDH.

What a load!!

People can take offence both ways, no pun intended. Get over it. The C word has been given the green light by no lesser person than a Magistrate ( and a female one at that )

Two weeks. Please.

Ahh…magpie col. Where have you been, mate? You really add to the intellect on here by the quality of your posts. "People can take offence both ways, no pun intended". Can you please enlighten us on what your unintended pun is?

This should be good.

 

[Yossarian]

Mitchell has learnt an important lesson and soon enough it will pass. Like how Andrew Johns and everyone else who's uttered a racist comment gets glossed over.

Tbh I watched it live and didn't hear the gay bit. I heard the last word though. I wonder what the reaction would be if it wasn't recorded and a player made a complaint? I'm sure this isn't the first time someone has used these words before. Suspensions shouldn't be on the basis of how good the recording system is. I have no problem with the NRL's action but I expect officials including touch judges to report anything similar from this time on.

 

[innsaneink]

Even this old fossil knows the difference between swearing out of frustration and verbal abuse//gay vilification

Did Moses swore because of frustration or for verbal abuse//gay vilification? I believe it was out of frustration which is usually always the case on a football field. So in future no swearing at anyone on the football field.

Nice try…

Fail.

 

[southerntiger]

http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/austin-nrl-ban-moses/

AUSTIN: NRL RIGHT TO BAN MOSES
Tigers
May 6, 2014
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Wests Tigers five-eighth Blake Austin says the NRL took the right action in suspending team mate Mitchell Moses for his homophobic slur during Saturday’s Under-20s Origin.

Moses, 19, was suspended for two matches yesterday after being identified as the player who called Queensland and Raiders lock Luke Bateman a “f****** gay c***” during the heated match.

Austin says that while Moses’ slur was merely a “throwaway line” made during the heat of battle, the punishment was justified.

“Obviously the NRL has taken a stance and I think it’s the way to go in the day and age we’re in,” Austin says.

“I by no means condone which Mitchell said . . . I believe that rugby league is a game for everyone.

“I want to see everyone who wants to enjoy rugby league enjoy rugby league.”

Austin says he hopes that players will learn from the incident and is encouraging the NRL to continue educating players on appropriate on-field behaviour.

“It’s a great opportunity to really educate the players on what can and can’t be said,” Austin says.

“It’s a really good chance to move forward and grow as a game.”

- STEVEN RUSSO

I love this kid. His media work is always sensational.

His attitude this year has been phenomenal.

Added to that he is playing good footy.

Could never understand why the Panthers would take Wallace or Sowie over him.

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[southerntiger]

http://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/austin-nrl-ban-moses/

AUSTIN: NRL RIGHT TO BAN MOSES
Tigers
May 6, 2014
Facebook0Twitter0

Wests Tigers five-eighth Blake Austin says the NRL took the right action in suspending team mate Mitchell Moses for his homophobic slur during Saturday’s Under-20s Origin.

Moses, 19, was suspended for two matches yesterday after being identified as the player who called Queensland and Raiders lock Luke Bateman a “f****** gay c***” during the heated match.

Austin says that while Moses’ slur was merely a “throwaway line” made during the heat of battle, the punishment was justified.

“Obviously the NRL has taken a stance and I think it’s the way to go in the day and age we’re in,” Austin says.

“I by no means condone which Mitchell said . . . I believe that rugby league is a game for everyone.

“I want to see everyone who wants to enjoy rugby league enjoy rugby league.”

Austin says he hopes that players will learn from the incident and is encouraging the NRL to continue educating players on appropriate on-field behaviour.

“It’s a great opportunity to really educate the players on what can and can’t be said,” Austin says.

“It’s a really good chance to move forward and grow as a game.”

- STEVEN RUSSO

I love this kid. His media work is always sensational.

His attitude this year has been phenomenal.

Added to that he is playing good footy.

Could never understand why the Panthers would take Wallace or Sowie over him.

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[innsaneink]

Yeh Blake continues to impress me…HE is what a role model is

 

[TurnStyle]

Ahh…magpie col. Where have you been, mate? You really add to the intellect on here by the quality of your posts. "People can take offence both ways, no pun intended". Can you please enlighten us on what your unintended pun is?

This should be good.

isnt it a "going both ways", "bats for both teams" reference?

 

[Tim Sheens]

At the risk of being howled down, I think this is a good opportunity for a gay player to come out and say his piece. I know it is the individual's decision, but it does not assist acceptance within the sport and the community as a whole, to keep one's homosexuality hidden.

Ian Roberts was brave to come out a a time when homophobia was very widespread, much more so than now.. The long serving current national player that I am 99% sure is gay could help to soften some people's (particularly north of the border) view on homosexuality, by coming out whilst still revered by many.

 

[LaT]

Always interesting to see the "this is PC crap!" and "I dont see why its offensive" crew respond to these types of issues.

For the "PC crap" crowd, you are not the straight shooting, BS cutting, hardman you'd like to be seen as.

And the "i dont see it as offensive" crew, you are not the even handed messiah you want to be seen as.

 

[innsaneink]

At the risk of being howled down, I think this is a good opportunity for a gay player to come out and say his piece. I know it is the individual's decision, but it does not assist acceptance within the sport and the community as a whole, to keep one's homosexuality hidden.

Ian Roberts was brave to come out a a time when homophobia was very widespread, much more so than now.. The long serving current national player that I am 99% sure is gay could help to soften some people's (particularly north of the border) view on homosexuality, by coming out whilst still revered by many.

I need to watch the games more closely
Did he play last Friday?

 

[TurnStyle]

At the risk of being howled down, I think this is a good opportunity for a gay player to come out and say his piece. I know it is the individual's decision, but it does not assist acceptance within the sport and the community as a whole, to keep one's homosexuality hidden.

Ian Roberts was brave to come out a a time when homophobia was very widespread, much more so than now.. The long serving current national player that I am 99% sure is gay could help to soften some people's (particularly north of the border) view on homosexuality, by coming out whilst still revered by many.

thats a good post, FG. (cant really see why anyone would howl you down, but it happens…).

in all fairness, ian roberts was a bloody hard bugger and as garry jack can attest, youd be pretty stupid to insult his sexuality!!! :laughing:

i have to say i find it interesting that a persons sexuality (when gay) seems to define them in society's eyes: hence why it must be a huge thing to open yourself to, particularly in such macho environments as rugby, footy, live theatre... oh wait, not the last one...., as you are from then on forever categorised.

really, what anyone else does in their own bedroom not only doesnt concern me, but its none of my business... unless its my wife of course!

 

[TurnStyle]

At the risk of being howled down, I think this is a good opportunity for a gay player to come out and say his piece. I know it is the individual's decision, but it does not assist acceptance within the sport and the community as a whole, to keep one's homosexuality hidden.

Ian Roberts was brave to come out a a time when homophobia was very widespread, much more so than now.. The long serving current national player that I am 99% sure is gay could help to soften some people's (particularly north of the border) view on homosexuality, by coming out whilst still revered by many.

I need to watch the games more closely
Did he play last Friday?

sam burgess? greg bird? they dont seem to mind a bit of a grope!! :laughing:

 

[littletiger]

Was the guy he said that to actually gay?