Moltzen haters

I don't hate Moltzen he is a good player. Live at the game it appeared that he didn't do too much apart from a great pass to set up a try.

For mine he is needed in our squad, I am just not sure what position (probably when all are available he will be our bench utiltiy).

I make no apologies for thinking Robert Lui is a far better halfback than Moltzen, I think that Sheens is of the same opinion. Lui as soon as he is fit will be straight back into the #7.
 
I think people are forgetting he just came back from a season ending injury… He isn't going to set the world on fire after four games especially when he barely played two. Give the guy a few more games to find his feet and you will see his confidence slowly improve. Personally I think he is a great halfback... being 9/9 when named at half is all you gotta look at - he has the speed, agility, reads the game well and has a good short kicking game.

Watch out for Moltzen in the coming weeks people!
 
@Luke said:
I think people are forgetting he just came back from a season ending injury… He isn't going to set the world on fire after four games especially when he barely played two. Give the guy a few more games to find his feet and you will see his confidence slowly improve. Personally I think he is a great halfback... being 9/9 when named at half is all you gotta look at - he has the speed, agility, reads the game well and has a good short kicking game.

Watch out for Moltzen in the coming weeks people!

well said. im starting to wonder if people on these forums have any actual idea about serious injuries and what is involved on the journey back. too many one-eyed supporters me thinks that know very little about the game.
 
@bonstonker said:
@Kul said:
He copped a lot of flack last week from a crowd on here.
Just wondering what their thoughts are after last night's good performance?

:laughing: haters :unamused:

great to see him take advantage of a retreating defensive line with an overlap.

what else was there.

Well he was generally the first bloke down there chasing kicks…. :unamused:
 
For the ones saying he's not a half can't you see Sheens is obviously not playing him as one, the kid has come back from a serious injury and Sheens would love to ease him back into it so he's not going to give him the reins just because of our injury toll. He's defiantly not playing half back despite the no 7 on his back.
 
@tig_prmz said:
Too quiet IMO. Didn't look very energetic TBH and just wanted to give it to the nearest runner instead of doing something more. Average game from him, knowing he can do a lot more.

Yeah that's what I said in the live game thread, he was too quiet, barely noticed him, especially in the first half.

In saying that, while Lui is out, I think he needs to stay there and hopefully things will keep improving for him as he gets back into the rhythm of things .
 
He still has a long way to go, Sheens said as much in the post match press conference, said he didn't really notice Moltzen out there and he certainly isn't playing a halfbacks game. I won't be surprised if Miller gets a shot at halfback next week and Moltzen shifts to the centres - it's where he has been positioned a lot lately.
 
I think you should restructure that comment Kul. Nobody ever wanted him out of team, instead commented on the fact that he wasn't at his best against the Roosters and that he wasn't at full fitness. However, after Friday's performance, you could argue that he showed signs that he is rapidly regaining that form that made him so highly sought after.
 
Don't hate Moltzen just keep saying if everyone was fit he would still be on the bench . Not because he is not a good player as he is still 2-3 weeks away from being fully ready . And he will probably be the first too admit the same as well
 
Moltzen haters :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: The guy has done nothing… If you think he has played well, your living in the past... He doesn't deserve the respect some have given Farah or Marshall.

He was struggling for form in the first 5 weeks in 2010 & he is struggling for form now. Luckily, he has a good reason... Most on here think he is better or more advanced than he is. He is a very talented player, who has shown us 2 years ago how good and dangerous he can be... Like all young kids, some come busting on the scene, and some take there time to adjust.

Moltzen will progress into a quality NRL footballer, it might just take longer than some want. As to whether he should be 7, 4, 1 or 209, he will have to work his way back into NRL football before his true value or position will be known. At the moment, he isnt a liability out there, so give the kid time.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Moltzen haters (don't u mean people who don't agree with u?)
 
Nobody on this site hates a Tiger…harsh thread topic header.
I believe that Moltzen and Marshall have a good understanding of each other and given time this will become obvious.
Gotta love the 2Ms
 
Im really surprised at you Kul…..you really seem to be encouraging this division amongst fans and their opinions with one player over others in the TEAM
Your limited knowledge on the game, our team and its structure is a factor, yes you do try and I know he's good looking and all to some...but really this is nothing more than blatant trolling.
 
@Allan Towle said:
@innsaneink said:
@smeghead said:
Played a good 5/8ths game.

Marshall ran the show. I don't feel he can do this consistantly for an entire season and Lui is the better option

He played 5/8?
I wasnt sure what he was doing or sposed to be doing, looked to be parked in the centres, Miller in his 20 mins did twice more what Moltz did in his time on the park
Still not confident, early in the first half he got the ball with room to move, didnt want it, passed straight away

Definitely played a back-seat role to Benji. He was a link-man in attack. **Supported a couple of breaks. Seemed to lead the kick-chase a lot of the night and saw him talking a lot in defence.**

Wade Mac Jnr?
 
And in regard to the "haters" reference, come on Kul, no one truly hates Moltzen. I would like to think most of us hold him in very high regard as a talented player, though he hasn't set the world on fire in his time back, which many of us also expected due to such a severe injury last year.

The Moltzen of old will be back, it will take time though. And while it takes time, I'm not so sure that he should be playing in the halves. Should swap jerseys with Miller next week.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Moltzen haters :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: The guy has done nothing… If you think he has played well, your living in the past... He doesn't deserve the respect some have given Farah or Marshall.

He was struggling for form in the first 5 weeks in 2010 & he is struggling for form now. Luckily, he has a good reason... Most on here think he is better or more advanced than he is. He is a very talented player, who has shown us 2 years ago how good and dangerous he can be... Like all young kids, some come busting on the scene, and some take there time to adjust.

Moltzen will progress into a quality NRL footballer, it might just take longer than some want. As to whether he should be 7, 4, 1 or 209, he will have to work his way back into NRL football before his true value or position will be known. At the moment, he isnt a liability out there, so give the kid time.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Moltzen haters (don't u mean people who don't agree with u?)

Watto spitting the truth.
 
What a joke of a discussion. Clearly most of you have had knee reconstructions and returned to first grade immediately playing the house down.

He is feeling his way back into the team and you won't see his best football till the second half of the season. Friday was his first full 80 minutes in 12 months. He played a solid game and provided good linkage work to the outside backs. The running game will return in time.

Do any of you remember how long it took Benji to get his timing/form back after the shoulder reconstructions?
 
@tig_prmz said:
Chased hard, threw a good pass, and defended OK, missed a couple of tackles but thats what halfbacks do.

Too quiet IMO. Didn't look very energetic TBH and just wanted to give it to the nearest runner instead of doing something more. Average game from him, knowing he can do a lot more.

Miller took the line on probably more times in 15 minutes than Moltzen did in 80 minutes. Hopefully his confidence level gets up more and he takes on the line more now.

he missed zero tackles and had zero ineffective….. this poor defender stuff is a myth. In 2 games at half he missed 1 tackle and had no ineffective tackles. A tackle effiency of about 97% or something..... what does he have to do to lose this moniker of a poor defender.

Last week everyone said he runs too much, today the reverse

I reckon he has strung together 2 pretty good games without killing it.

I thought when lui was half for the first 3 he had one poor game, one ok game and one good game.....there aint much between the 2

and the ball for the try was a very good pass from moltzen despite what people are saying it was good footy.

I dont get the anti Moltzen sentiment,
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^goose's post is far more accurate

@Tiger Watto said:
Moltzen haters :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: The guy has done nothing… If you think he has played well, your living in the past... He doesn't deserve the respect some have given Farah or Marshall.

He was struggling for form in the first 5 weeks in 2010 & he is struggling for form now. Luckily, he has a good reason... Most on here think he is better or more advanced than he is. He is a very talented player, who has shown us 2 years ago how good and dangerous he can be... Like all young kids, some come busting on the scene, and some take there time to adjust.

Moltzen will progress into a quality NRL footballer, it might just take longer than some want. As to whether he should be 7, 4, 1 or 209, he will have to work his way back into NRL football before his true value or position will be known. At the moment, he isnt a liability out there, so give the kid time.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Moltzen haters (don't u mean people who don't agree with u?)

Wow someone who comes back from a full knee reconstruction….played a handful of minutes in his first 3 games and then is expected to dominate Farah and Marshall from the get go or he's what....struggling for form.....

give up.....
 
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