Momorovski wants out

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I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I guess the good thing is in your mind, if you beat 13 players twice and score under the post you get 20 points.

If you crash over and beat 3 guys trying to form a wall on the line - you only get 4 points.

Of course you are right, you get 4 points for any try. The point being if you possess the skill set and talents to be able to beat a man with pace and footwork, you are more likely to either score a try or set one up for others.

Everyone keep repeating Momos try number stats, but he finished all of them, none of them he set up by making a break etc.

Lol.

By t he way I saw him beat players without crashing over between them. Maybe uou missed those games.

Depends what you mean, I saw plenty of tries when he received the ball at pace, inside the opposition 10 with men in front of him and plenty of work to do to score, is that what you mean, because I agree with that.

What I can never recall seeing is Momo setting up his opposite man inside out with footwork then beating him on the outside with pace. I dont recall that ever happening and I dont believe he has those skills or talents.

Im not questioning for a moment that he is a good player, solid. On a scale of one to potato I put him slightly above Dean Collis and Ayshford, on a par with Shane Elford, below Paul Whatuira and a long way behind Simona or Lawrence, BJ or JTJ at their best. Also spare me the lecture that BJ or JTJ werent at their best last year. Of course they werent but even at that standard they were equivalent to Momirovski and he is at his peak.

I agreed with most of this post but surely you're taking the mickey in that last part. Momivorski has played in total 19 first grade games and 1 game for the Prime Minsters team. By that logic, Harry Grant is also at his peak - and won't get any better despite knowing he has plenty of football ahead of him


Not taking the mickey at all and for me this is the whole point of my opinion of Momers. As you say, he has played 19 games, 10 for us. I dont discern any difference in his play and his abilities between the first and last games. He hasnt developed a step, improved positional play pass or anything I can put my finger on. To use your example, look at Harry Grant in his first game for us versus his SOO game. Massive growth and improvement and development. A MUCH better example I would say is Douiehi. His game in a similarly short time since being here has changed and improved drastically from what I thought was a pretty one dimensional player to one that has a great pass and very good positional play. Fittingly I would say that AD & Momers share a limited pallette of physical talents (both tall but not big, not fast).

You have kind of made my point for me. Yes Harry Grant only played about the same amount of games as Mommers, but he has gone from needing a swap to get a run to first picked for origin. Momers has played the same amount of games, at three clubs and we are still discussing for page after page whether he is the 3rd, 4th or 5th best centre in a team that hasnt made the 8 in 10years. I would suggest if there was an upward curve in his progression, this discussion would not be happening.


the been at 3 clubs in 19 matches isn't a proper indication of his ability. Let's be fair dinkum for a moment. 2 of the clubs were premiership winners.

He was nothing more than just an up and comer at the Roosters who might get a run if injuries struck - he was stuck behind the two deadliest centre pairings in the comp (Latrell and Manu). He actually played his second ever game in a sudden death SEMI FINAL - which he actually scored a try in. Now i'm no coach but Robinson must have been fairly confident in his game awareness / defense.

He was then signed by us, where he found his feet and was a regular starter towards the back end with a 75%+ goal kicking rate and an amazing try scoring record. We almost broke the club finals drought that year I might add

Now the storm...obviously he was part of a loan deal, played a few games where he never really looked out of place at all then got injured and that was that. Bellamy is even on record saying if he wasn't injured he would have played finals footy

There is no way he has hit his straps yet is all i'm saying. I don't even think he's strung more than 8 games together because of injury.

Not doubting you mate but have you got a link to where Bellamy said that?


Sorry yes @Tiger5150 is right, it was one of the executives not Bellamy
 
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I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I guess the good thing is in your mind, if you beat 13 players twice and score under the post you get 20 points.

If you crash over and beat 3 guys trying to form a wall on the line - you only get 4 points.

Of course you are right, you get 4 points for any try. The point being if you possess the skill set and talents to be able to beat a man with pace and footwork, you are more likely to either score a try or set one up for others.

Everyone keep repeating Momos try number stats, but he finished all of them, none of them he set up by making a break etc.

Lol.

By t he way I saw him beat players without crashing over between them. Maybe uou missed those games.

Depends what you mean, I saw plenty of tries when he received the ball at pace, inside the opposition 10 with men in front of him and plenty of work to do to score, is that what you mean, because I agree with that.

What I can never recall seeing is Momo setting up his opposite man inside out with footwork then beating him on the outside with pace. I dont recall that ever happening and I dont believe he has those skills or talents.

Im not questioning for a moment that he is a good player, solid. On a scale of one to potato I put him slightly above Dean Collis and Ayshford, on a par with Shane Elford, below Paul Whatuira and a long way behind Simona or Lawrence, BJ or JTJ at their best. Also spare me the lecture that BJ or JTJ werent at their best last year. Of course they werent but even at that standard they were equivalent to Momirovski and he is at his peak.

I agreed with most of this post but surely you're taking the mickey in that last part. Momivorski has played in total 19 first grade games and 1 game for the Prime Minsters team. By that logic, Harry Grant is also at his peak - and won't get any better despite knowing he has plenty of football ahead of him


Not taking the mickey at all and for me this is the whole point of my opinion of Momers. As you say, he has played 19 games, 10 for us. I dont discern any difference in his play and his abilities between the first and last games. He hasnt developed a step, improved positional play pass or anything I can put my finger on. To use your example, look at Harry Grant in his first game for us versus his SOO game. Massive growth and improvement and development. A MUCH better example I would say is Douiehi. His game in a similarly short time since being here has changed and improved drastically from what I thought was a pretty one dimensional player to one that has a great pass and very good positional play. Fittingly I would say that AD & Momers share a limited pallette of physical talents (both tall but not big, not fast).

You have kind of made my point for me. Yes Harry Grant only played about the same amount of games as Mommers, but he has gone from needing a swap to get a run to first picked for origin. Momers has played the same amount of games, at three clubs and we are still discussing for page after page whether he is the 3rd, 4th or 5th best centre in a team that hasnt made the 8 in 10years. I would suggest if there was an upward curve in his progression, this discussion would not be happening.


the been at 3 clubs in 19 matches isn't a proper indication of his ability. Let's be fair dinkum for a moment. 2 of the clubs were premiership winners.

He was nothing more than just an up and comer at the Roosters who might get a run if injuries struck - he was stuck behind the two deadliest centre pairings in the comp (Latrell and Manu). He actually played his second ever game in a sudden death SEMI FINAL - which he actually scored a try in. Now i'm no coach but Robinson must have been fairly confident in his game awareness / defense.

He was then signed by us, where he found his feet and was a regular starter towards the back end with a 75%+ goal kicking rate and an amazing try scoring record. We almost broke the club finals drought that year I might add

Now the storm...obviously he was part of a loan deal, played a few games where he never really looked out of place at all then got injured and that was that. Bellamy is even on record saying if he wasn't injured he would have played finals footy

There is no way he has hit his straps yet is all i'm saying. I don't even think he's strung more than 8 games together because of injury.

Not doubting you mate but have you got a link to where Bellamy said that?


I have a memory that it was actually the Storm CEO.

This argument is to me pretty dumb. I mean who cares what these coaches or CEO's or whatever state. Was he picked in that position ? The answer is no. Sure he may have been injured but he wasn't picked.

Momo hasn't established himself as an NRL player yet. He looks to be struggling to make our team which is tipped as a bottom 4 team. We do have some players that are potentially very good centres so it's not as bad as it sounds but it's not like he is a player we or any club will be building around.
 
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I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I guess the good thing is in your mind, if you beat 13 players twice and score under the post you get 20 points.

If you crash over and beat 3 guys trying to form a wall on the line - you only get 4 points.

Of course you are right, you get 4 points for any try. The point being if you possess the skill set and talents to be able to beat a man with pace and footwork, you are more likely to either score a try or set one up for others.

Everyone keep repeating Momos try number stats, but he finished all of them, none of them he set up by making a break etc.

Lol.

By t he way I saw him beat players without crashing over between them. Maybe uou missed those games.

Depends what you mean, I saw plenty of tries when he received the ball at pace, inside the opposition 10 with men in front of him and plenty of work to do to score, is that what you mean, because I agree with that.

What I can never recall seeing is Momo setting up his opposite man inside out with footwork then beating him on the outside with pace. I dont recall that ever happening and I dont believe he has those skills or talents.

Im not questioning for a moment that he is a good player, solid. On a scale of one to potato I put him slightly above Dean Collis and Ayshford, on a par with Shane Elford, below Paul Whatuira and a long way behind Simona or Lawrence, BJ or JTJ at their best. Also spare me the lecture that BJ or JTJ werent at their best last year. Of course they werent but even at that standard they were equivalent to Momirovski and he is at his peak.

I agreed with most of this post but surely you're taking the mickey in that last part. Momivorski has played in total 19 first grade games and 1 game for the Prime Minsters team. By that logic, Harry Grant is also at his peak - and won't get any better despite knowing he has plenty of football ahead of him


Not taking the mickey at all and for me this is the whole point of my opinion of Momers. As you say, he has played 19 games, 10 for us. I dont discern any difference in his play and his abilities between the first and last games. He hasnt developed a step, improved positional play pass or anything I can put my finger on. To use your example, look at Harry Grant in his first game for us versus his SOO game. Massive growth and improvement and development. A MUCH better example I would say is Douiehi. His game in a similarly short time since being here has changed and improved drastically from what I thought was a pretty one dimensional player to one that has a great pass and very good positional play. Fittingly I would say that AD & Momers share a limited pallette of physical talents (both tall but not big, not fast).

You have kind of made my point for me. Yes Harry Grant only played about the same amount of games as Mommers, but he has gone from needing a swap to get a run to first picked for origin. Momers has played the same amount of games, at three clubs and we are still discussing for page after page whether he is the 3rd, 4th or 5th best centre in a team that hasnt made the 8 in 10years. I would suggest if there was an upward curve in his progression, this discussion would not be happening.


the been at 3 clubs in 19 matches isn't a proper indication of his ability. Let's be fair dinkum for a moment. 2 of the clubs were premiership winners.

He was nothing more than just an up and comer at the Roosters who might get a run if injuries struck - he was stuck behind the two deadliest centre pairings in the comp (Latrell and Manu). He actually played his second ever game in a sudden death SEMI FINAL - which he actually scored a try in. Now i'm no coach but Robinson must have been fairly confident in his game awareness / defense.

He was then signed by us, where he found his feet and was a regular starter towards the back end with a 75%+ goal kicking rate and an amazing try scoring record. We almost broke the club finals drought that year I might add

Now the storm...obviously he was part of a loan deal, played a few games where he never really looked out of place at all then got injured and that was that. Bellamy is even on record saying if he wasn't injured he would have played finals footy

There is no way he has hit his straps yet is all i'm saying. I don't even think he's strung more than 8 games together because of injury.

Not doubting you mate but have you got a link to where Bellamy said that?


Sorry yes @Tiger5150 is right, it was one of the executives not Bellamy

Cheers.
 
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I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.

He is a good solid player but I think he has shown enough to know that he is VERY consistent, because what you see is what you get. This IS his ceiling.

BJ & JTJ may not be consistent but their ceiling is MUCH higher than Momers. Talau looks raw but I think he has natural talents (mostly size) that Momers doesnt have .

IMO I'd put Momo on a par with Talau.....and we have Talau.

I wouldnt be upset if we traded him for a Laurie for example, but he does have enough that he would be one of those players I watch nervously in another clubs colours wondering if we let one get away.

Intercept try Tigers V Dragons backend of 2019...ran 85m


I acknowledge an intercept try is long range, but how many players did he beat?

I know you are more about stats and how many players he beat etc etc to score his tries,however,in my honest opinion,it doesnt matter how he scored them,the points were on the board and another small point I will make,he at least was in the position to score the try or he was 100 percent trying his guts out for the club,he may not be the fastest or suitable player most want but he is footy smart and a trier everytime he pulls on our jumper...

And the points weren't on the board when he missed the relatively easy shot at goal v the Dogs

Probably cost us Top 8

His playing ability should not be judged on his goalkicking,i doubt he wanted the resposibility.

I WAS MAKING A POINT .....SOME SEE HIS GOOD SOME SEE HIS BAD .......go jump in the dunces corner with Russell and put your nose on the chalk spot on the chalk board

Have you had your Weet Bix today..

Traces of ratsak me thinks ?

Obviously not enough.
 
Caught up with a mate today whose friend is someone's something to do with the club (I think a physio who does some part time stuff), he said that he had been told that Talau is pushing for a starting spot, and wouldn't be surprised to see him start the season in the run on side. Also said that JTJ was coming along in leaps and bounds from where he was a couple of months ago. No other info, it was just a bit of brief chat about the stuff he has heard. Might be why Momo is thinking about moving on. I think he is a good player, probably would start in around half teams in the comp but has ended up falling behind here. Don't blame him for thinking about finding more game time.
 
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I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I guess the good thing is in your mind, if you beat 13 players twice and score under the post you get 20 points.

If you crash over and beat 3 guys trying to form a wall on the line - you only get 4 points.

Of course you are right, you get 4 points for any try. The point being if you possess the skill set and talents to be able to beat a man with pace and footwork, you are more likely to either score a try or set one up for others.

Everyone keep repeating Momos try number stats, but he finished all of them, none of them he set up by making a break etc.

Lol.

By t he way I saw him beat players without crashing over between them. Maybe uou missed those games.

Depends what you mean, I saw plenty of tries when he received the ball at pace, inside the opposition 10 with men in front of him and plenty of work to do to score, is that what you mean, because I agree with that.

What I can never recall seeing is Momo setting up his opposite man inside out with footwork then beating him on the outside with pace. I dont recall that ever happening and I dont believe he has those skills or talents.

Im not questioning for a moment that he is a good player, solid. On a scale of one to potato I put him slightly above Dean Collis and Ayshford, on a par with Shane Elford, below Paul Whatuira and a long way behind Simona or Lawrence, BJ or JTJ at their best. Also spare me the lecture that BJ or JTJ werent at their best last year. Of course they werent but even at that standard they were equivalent to Momirovski and he is at his peak.

I agreed with most of this post but surely you're taking the mickey in that last part. Momivorski has played in total 19 first grade games and 1 game for the Prime Minsters team. By that logic, Harry Grant is also at his peak - and won't get any better despite knowing he has plenty of football ahead of him


Not taking the mickey at all and for me this is the whole point of my opinion of Momers. As you say, he has played 19 games, 10 for us. I dont discern any difference in his play and his abilities between the first and last games. He hasnt developed a step, improved positional play pass or anything I can put my finger on. To use your example, look at Harry Grant in his first game for us versus his SOO game. Massive growth and improvement and development. A MUCH better example I would say is Douiehi. His game in a similarly short time since being here has changed and improved drastically from what I thought was a pretty one dimensional player to one that has a great pass and very good positional play. Fittingly I would say that AD & Momers share a limited pallette of physical talents (both tall but not big, not fast).

You have kind of made my point for me. Yes Harry Grant only played about the same amount of games as Mommers, but he has gone from needing a swap to get a run to first picked for origin. Momers has played the same amount of games, at three clubs and we are still discussing for page after page whether he is the 3rd, 4th or 5th best centre in a team that hasnt made the 8 in 10years. I would suggest if there was an upward curve in his progression, this discussion would not be happening.


the been at 3 clubs in 19 matches isn't a proper indication of his ability. Let's be fair dinkum for a moment. 2 of the clubs were premiership winners.

He was nothing more than just an up and comer at the Roosters who might get a run if injuries struck - he was stuck behind the two deadliest centre pairings in the comp (Latrell and Manu). He actually played his second ever game in a sudden death SEMI FINAL - which he actually scored a try in. Now i'm no coach but Robinson must have been fairly confident in his game awareness / defense.

He was then signed by us, where he found his feet and was a regular starter towards the back end with a 75%+ goal kicking rate and an amazing try scoring record. We almost broke the club finals drought that year I might add

Now the storm...obviously he was part of a loan deal, played a few games where he never really looked out of place at all then got injured and that was that. Bellamy is even on record saying if he wasn't injured he would have played finals footy

There is no way he has hit his straps yet is all i'm saying. I don't even think he's strung more than 8 games together because of injury.

Well said.... He's still developing, and someone comparing him to a bloke like Grant is like comparing chalk n chips
 
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I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I guess the good thing is in your mind, if you beat 13 players twice and score under the post you get 20 points.

If you crash over and beat 3 guys trying to form a wall on the line - you only get 4 points.

Of course you are right, you get 4 points for any try. The point being if you possess the skill set and talents to be able to beat a man with pace and footwork, you are more likely to either score a try or set one up for others.

Everyone keep repeating Momos try number stats, but he finished all of them, none of them he set up by making a break etc.

Lol.

By t he way I saw him beat players without crashing over between them. Maybe uou missed those games.

Depends what you mean, I saw plenty of tries when he received the ball at pace, inside the opposition 10 with men in front of him and plenty of work to do to score, is that what you mean, because I agree with that.

What I can never recall seeing is Momo setting up his opposite man inside out with footwork then beating him on the outside with pace. I dont recall that ever happening and I dont believe he has those skills or talents.

Im not questioning for a moment that he is a good player, solid. On a scale of one to potato I put him slightly above Dean Collis and Ayshford, on a par with Shane Elford, below Paul Whatuira and a long way behind Simona or Lawrence, BJ or JTJ at their best. Also spare me the lecture that BJ or JTJ werent at their best last year. Of course they werent but even at that standard they were equivalent to Momirovski and he is at his peak.

I agreed with most of this post but surely you're taking the mickey in that last part. Momivorski has played in total 19 first grade games and 1 game for the Prime Minsters team. By that logic, Harry Grant is also at his peak - and won't get any better despite knowing he has plenty of football ahead of him


Not taking the mickey at all and for me this is the whole point of my opinion of Momers. As you say, he has played 19 games, 10 for us. I dont discern any difference in his play and his abilities between the first and last games. He hasnt developed a step, improved positional play pass or anything I can put my finger on. To use your example, look at Harry Grant in his first game for us versus his SOO game. Massive growth and improvement and development. A MUCH better example I would say is Douiehi. His game in a similarly short time since being here has changed and improved drastically from what I thought was a pretty one dimensional player to one that has a great pass and very good positional play. Fittingly I would say that AD & Momers share a limited pallette of physical talents (both tall but not big, not fast).

You have kind of made my point for me. Yes Harry Grant only played about the same amount of games as Mommers, but he has gone from needing a swap to get a run to first picked for origin. Momers has played the same amount of games, at three clubs and we are still discussing for page after page whether he is the 3rd, 4th or 5th best centre in a team that hasnt made the 8 in 10years. I would suggest if there was an upward curve in his progression, this discussion would not be happening.


the been at 3 clubs in 19 matches isn't a proper indication of his ability. Let's be fair dinkum for a moment. 2 of the clubs were premiership winners.

He was nothing more than just an up and comer at the Roosters who might get a run if injuries struck - he was stuck behind the two deadliest centre pairings in the comp (Latrell and Manu). He actually played his second ever game in a sudden death SEMI FINAL - which he actually scored a try in. Now i'm no coach but Robinson must have been fairly confident in his game awareness / defense.

He was then signed by us, where he found his feet and was a regular starter towards the back end with a 75%+ goal kicking rate and an amazing try scoring record. We almost broke the club finals drought that year I might add

Now the storm...obviously he was part of a loan deal, played a few games where he never really looked out of place at all then got injured and that was that. Bellamy is even on record saying if he wasn't injured he would have played finals footy

There is no way he has hit his straps yet is all i'm saying. I don't even think he's strung more than 8 games together because of injury.

Well said.... He's still developing, and someone ***comparing him to a bloke like Grant is like comparing chalk n chips***

I agree with this bit, but the problem is it was speed2burn who compared him to Grant, in terms of development.
 
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
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@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out
 
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out

Which one is a done deal ? Momo or Cini?
 
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year
 
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@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year

I thought Laurie was on a development contract,just like Cini,for 2021?So nhes not gonna breal the bank to bring him over
I think we shld keep Momo too,as we know hes a NRL centre who will turn up every week.
Cini...never seen him play so cant comment like most of us
As for Laurie..an 83kg fullback who has played 3 NRL games doesnt sound like a robust must get early solution to our fullback problem tbh
 
@jadtiger said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296865) said:
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year

Momers has a player option for 2022 so whether he stays or not will most likely be up to him
 
@clontarfkid said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296866) said:
@jadtiger said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296865) said:
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year

I thought Laurie was on a development contract,just like Cini,for 2021?So nhes not gonna breal the bank to bring him over
I think we shld keep Momo too,as we know hes a NRL centre who will turn up every week.
Cini...never seen him play so cant comment like most of us
As for Laurie..an 83kg fullback who has played 3 NRL games doesnt sound like a robust must get early solution to our fullback problem tbh

Same size as Paps, similar play style too from what I've seen.
 
@jc99 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296867) said:
@jadtiger said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296865) said:
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year

Momers has a club option for 2022 so whether he stays or not will most likely be up to him

I think you mean Player option..
 
@nrlsurvivor said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296862) said:
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out

Which one is a done deal ? Momo or Cini?


It could be anyone, it’s still in negotiation.
 
@geo said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296870) said:
@jc99 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296867) said:
@jadtiger said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296865) said:
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year

Momers has a club option for 2022 so whether he stays or not will most likely be up to him

I think you mean Player option..

Yup, will edit original post.
 
@jc99 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296868) said:
@clontarfkid said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296866) said:
@jadtiger said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296865) said:
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year

I thought Laurie was on a development contract,just like Cini,for 2021?So nhes not gonna breal the bank to bring him over
I think we shld keep Momo too,as we know hes a NRL centre who will turn up every week.
Cini...never seen him play so cant comment like most of us
As for Laurie..an 83kg fullback who has played 3 NRL games doesnt sound like a robust must get early solution to our fullback problem tbh

Same size as Paps, similar play style too from what I've seen.

Yep...but Paps is a one in a decade....!
Coach has seen enuff to hire him,so issue is timing
 
@clontarfkid said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296873) said:
@jc99 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296868) said:
@clontarfkid said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296866) said:
@jadtiger said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296865) said:
@tigerballs said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296859) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296673) said:
@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask anyone on this forum to come up with 3 wests tigers names in our 20 year history

@cochise said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296597) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296591) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296587) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296586) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296582) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296579) said:
@speed2burn said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296572) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Momorovski wants out](/post/1296551) said:
I genuinely dont get the love of some here for Momers. I dont dislike him and I think he is a solid first grade player in the mold of Shane Elford but Ive never seen him do anything impressive.

His fans here regularly quote his try scoring strike rate, but they are all catch and crash tries, I cant remember him beating a player.


I mean if you literally watched any of his 2019 tries like ive posted video clips numerous times in this thread you would see that barely any are “catch and crash” like you said

But his haters love to ignore that of course


No worries, post them up again


I can’t be bothered proving obvious trolls wrong.


Obvious trolls? I said he is a good solid player, hardly trolling. You said you had proof I was wrong and that most of his tries were not short range.

Only one of us is not backing up his words.


You said that most of his tries he barely beat one player...fairly inaccurate, watch the tries from the dogs game onwards and you’ll be pleasantly surprised


I dont have time to trawl through videos, Im relying on my memory of his play. You are welcome to post them up.

There is a difference between crashing through a flat defence 5 -10m out and actually beating a player.

I will say he used good footwork to step inside players to score his tries. He is a decent finisher, but believe we need more in that position and think we have players that play similar to him but are better.

I would ask any forum member to come up with the names of 3 past or present players for our club who have scored tries in 75% of games played (anywhere)
14 from 19 in Nrl
1 from one playing for the prime ministers 13

Sure like many have suggested he is not the world's best player
Maybe not even in our top 20
But Paul has the uncanny ability to put himself in the right spot at the right time
He has the ability to sniff out a try
You don't score 15 try's in 20 games in the worlds best competition by fluke
Wests tigers have had 236 players at our club and only one player has equaled that record
And the is Marika Korobetti
Now let that sink in a little
One player in 236
And Marika Korobetti
And what's more Marika only score 12 tries from 16 games for us
Every player to pull on our jersey has had the same opportunities
But Momorovski has taken those opportunities more than any other player in our history as far as tries v games played
The point IMO is Paul is a keeper
He can do a good job for us
And no one can discount the facts
It is the spines position to help create tries
Its players like Paul that finish them
And although not the best goal kicker in our team, he is a handy back up to have
I dont see to many players putting their hand up for that roll

Now after sticking up for Paul, should we be able to upgrade Paul in a position of need then I am all for it
Its just like a game of chess
Sometimes you have to sacrifice a pawn / player for the good of your own game

If we have the opportunity to keep Paul then I am all for it
But let's not give a release without a class replacement


Here’s what I heard today: Pathers will release Laurie in a player swap but want the Tigers to pay the difference. Momo didn’t ask for a release as such but put his hand up for the opportunity. Tigers said no because A, they want to keep Momo and B, they would be paying Laurie his contract offer plus Momo’s contract and have decided that’s a bit too expensive. Tigers have offered Cini because his development contract makeS it a cheaper negotiation. The talks continue but it seems like a done deal, just the details need to be worked out


Keeping Momo and swapping Cini for Laurie is very sensible and nobody loses.Momo is still under contract and if he has a decent year(which i expect)he can be upgraded later this year

I thought Laurie was on a development contract,just like Cini,for 2021?So nhes not gonna breal the bank to bring him over
I think we shld keep Momo too,as we know hes a NRL centre who will turn up every week.
Cini...never seen him play so cant comment like most of us
As for Laurie..an 83kg fullback who has played 3 NRL games doesnt sound like a robust must get early solution to our fullback problem tbh

Same size as Paps, similar play style too from what I've seen.

Yep...but Paps is a one in a decade....!
Coach has seen enuff to hire him,so issue is timing

I'm just saying size isn't an issue, there's always been small guys who are successful.
 
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he wants out cause of this hulk of a human
 

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