Not sure moving our only established centre into the second row is going to do anything but cause dramas.
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@ said:@ said:I think Momirovski is THE centre - never mind back row.
Chee Kam needs to go - do not need idiots, Sponsors and idiots do not mix well.
If Momiroveki reolaced Masters, Masters would go well in Chee Kam's position, because he can play backs or forwards, and is legitimately hard to tackle. Does leave us looking for a new goalkicker.
Would you have Momirovski replace Fonua?
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:You're missing the point and over dramatising as usual.
Rape is one thing but flirting with a girl is another, don't mix the two as they aren't even related.
Women know what they are doing, had this been a regular guy touching her thigh she would have told him to get lost creep and that would have been the end of it as there would have been nothing gained for her.
You don't hear about her flirting or lead up that gave him the confidence to touch her, social cues and all that.
The verdict proves it was nothing more than a touchy flirt but the guy gets his life turned upside down because he is in the public eye and has some money.
Who are you to judge what’s too far and what isn’t it?
I'm judging as a man. A man that has flirted with women all my life. You feed off the feedback a woman gives whether to make a move or not.
You're a man right? If so, you should understand the basics of human interaction between man and a woman.
It's become a toxic environment for men. I'm glad I'm not out there trying to pick up women anymore. You need a contract just to attempt to kiss a girl it seems.
In the end the judge seems to agree. Sexual assault wasn't committed and q man's reputation is in tatters for seemingly a harmless show of affection.
I'm going to agree with Matchball
It's very hard when I have staff who have lost family members /broken up with partners …....you want to hug them and make it OK but as a male you just can't in this day and age
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:Who are you to judge what’s too far and what isn’t it?
I'm judging as a man. A man that has flirted with women all my life. You feed off the feedback a woman gives whether to make a move or not.
You're a man right? If so, you should understand the basics of human interaction between man and a woman.
It's become a toxic environment for men. I'm glad I'm not out there trying to pick up women anymore. You need a contract just to attempt to kiss a girl it seems.
In the end the judge seems to agree. Sexual assault wasn't committed and q man's reputation is in tatters for seemingly a harmless show of affection.
I'm going to agree with Matchball
It's very hard when I have staff who have lost family members /broken up with partners …....you want to hug them and make it OK but as a male you just can't in this day and age
Very delicate and we can't really tell from here. Scott Bolton might legitimately have no idea of normal social cues - wouldn't surprise me in a prominent footballer. He might also have a very low threshold for what he considers appropriate or consent; I think about the Doggies incident last year where you had blokes touching each other's genitals in public and they didn't think it weird.
Or maybe Bolton has normal perceptions of non-verbal cues and the woman provided mixed or inappropriate signals. That also wouldn't surprise me, the number of women I know who can't properly read the intentions of a man still shocks me.
I was discussing recently with a mate the Aziz Ansari case, where he invited a woman to his place after a date, she accepted, and he attempted to gain consent to have sex. She was hesitant and claimed to have given non-verbal cues, then finally told him in words, at which time he backed right off and she left unmolested. Ultimately I get the impression that Ansari has been publicly exonerated, but not without being put through the wringers first. Probably doesn't hurt that he's a little fellow and not some 7 ft barbarian.
I told my mate my ultimate thought is that a woman can say "no" at any time, of course, but also women need to vocalise that feeling as early as possible. Yes many women are worried about offending or possibly enraging a man, but also men aren't mind readers. Think of how many husbands don't understand or perceive why their wives are cranky, the old cliche, then apply that generally to dudes trying get their ends in. You would think that only sociopaths would keep trying if a woman says "no" to their face.
Also, women need to understand that if a man invites you back to his place, or you invite him to yours, that there is a very very very good chance he's hoping for a root. This should be taught to women in schools, so we are all clear that men are typically very interested and eager to root women, with consent. So if you are not interested or not sure, better to decline and avoid the chance. It's the same idea as not walking home by yourself in the dark - you of course have every right to expect to be safe walking anywhere any time, but also The Real World exists.
Or perhaps we do what pigeons or many other birds do and develop a copulation dance posture, so it's official and obvious that we are trying to mate.
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:Who are you to judge what’s too far and what isn’t it?
I'm judging as a man. A man that has flirted with women all my life. You feed off the feedback a woman gives whether to make a move or not.
You're a man right? If so, you should understand the basics of human interaction between man and a woman.
It's become a toxic environment for men. I'm glad I'm not out there trying to pick up women anymore. You need a contract just to attempt to kiss a girl it seems.
In the end the judge seems to agree. Sexual assault wasn't committed and q man's reputation is in tatters for seemingly a harmless show of affection.
I'm going to agree with Matchball
It's very hard when I have staff who have lost family members /broken up with partners …....you want to hug them and make it OK but as a male you just can't in this day and age
Very delicate and we can't really tell from here. Scott Bolton might legitimately have no idea of normal social cues - wouldn't surprise me in a prominent footballer. He might also have a very low threshold for what he considers appropriate or consent; I think about the Doggies incident last year where you had blokes touching each other's genitals in public and they didn't think it weird.
Or maybe Bolton has normal perceptions of non-verbal cues and the woman provided mixed or inappropriate signals. That also wouldn't surprise me, the number of women I know who can't properly read the intentions of a man still shocks me.
I was discussing recently with a mate the Aziz Ansari case, where he invited a woman to his place after a date, she accepted, and he attempted to gain consent to have sex. She was hesitant and claimed to have given non-verbal cues, then finally told him in words, at which time he backed right off and she left unmolested. Ultimately I get the impression that Ansari has been publicly exonerated, but not without being put through the wringers first. Probably doesn't hurt that he's a little fellow and not some 7 ft barbarian.
I told my mate my ultimate thought is that a woman can say "no" at any time, of course, but also women need to vocalise that feeling as early as possible. Yes many women are worried about offending or possibly enraging a man, but also men aren't mind readers. Think of how many husbands don't understand or perceive why their wives are cranky, the old cliche, then apply that generally to dudes trying get their ends in. You would think that only sociopaths would keep trying if a woman says "no" to their face.
Also, women need to understand that if a man invites you back to his place, or you invite him to yours, that there is a very very very good chance he's hoping for a root. This should be taught to women in schools, so we are all clear that men are typically very interested and eager to root women, with consent. So if you are not interested or not sure, better to decline and avoid the chance. It's the same idea as not walking home by yourself in the dark - you of course have every right to expect to be safe walking anywhere any time, but also The Real World exists.
Or perhaps we do what pigeons or many other birds do and develop a copulation dance posture, so it's official and obvious that we are trying to mate.
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:Who are you to judge what’s too far and what isn’t it?
I'm judging as a man. A man that has flirted with women all my life. You feed off the feedback a woman gives whether to make a move or not.
You're a man right? If so, you should understand the basics of human interaction between man and a woman.
It's become a toxic environment for men. I'm glad I'm not out there trying to pick up women anymore. You need a contract just to attempt to kiss a girl it seems.
In the end the judge seems to agree. Sexual assault wasn't committed and q man's reputation is in tatters for seemingly a harmless show of affection.
I'm going to agree with Matchball
It's very hard when I have staff who have lost family members /broken up with partners …....you want to hug them and make it OK but as a male you just can't in this day and age
Very delicate and we can't really tell from here. Scott Bolton might legitimately have no idea of normal social cues - wouldn't surprise me in a prominent footballer. He might also have a very low threshold for what he considers appropriate or consent; I think about the Doggies incident last year where you had blokes touching each other's genitals in public and they didn't think it weird.
Or maybe Bolton has normal perceptions of non-verbal cues and the woman provided mixed or inappropriate signals. That also wouldn't surprise me, the number of women I know who can't properly read the intentions of a man still shocks me.
I was discussing recently with a mate the Aziz Ansari case, where he invited a woman to his place after a date, she accepted, and he attempted to gain consent to have sex. She was hesitant and claimed to have given non-verbal cues, then finally told him in words, at which time he backed right off and she left unmolested. Ultimately I get the impression that Ansari has been publicly exonerated, but not without being put through the wringers first. Probably doesn't hurt that he's a little fellow and not some 7 ft barbarian.
I told my mate my ultimate thought is that a woman can say "no" at any time, of course, but also women need to vocalise that feeling as early as possible. Yes many women are worried about offending or possibly enraging a man, but also men aren't mind readers. Think of how many husbands don't understand or perceive why their wives are cranky, the old cliche, then apply that generally to dudes trying get their ends in. You would think that only sociopaths would keep trying if a woman says "no" to their face.
Also, women need to understand that if a man invites you back to his place, or you invite him to yours, that there is a very very very good chance he's hoping for a root. This should be taught to women in schools, so we are all clear that men are typically very interested and eager to root women, with consent. So if you are not interested or not sure, better to decline and avoid the chance. It's the same idea as not walking home by yourself in the dark - you of course have every right to expect to be safe walking anywhere any time, but also The Real World exists.
Or perhaps we do what pigeons or many other birds do and develop a copulation dance posture, so it's official and obvious that we are trying to mate.
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:I'm judging as a man. A man that has flirted with women all my life. You feed off the feedback a woman gives whether to make a move or not.
You're a man right? If so, you should understand the basics of human interaction between man and a woman.
It's become a toxic environment for men. I'm glad I'm not out there trying to pick up women anymore. You need a contract just to attempt to kiss a girl it seems.
In the end the judge seems to agree. Sexual assault wasn't committed and q man's reputation is in tatters for seemingly a harmless show of affection.
I'm going to agree with Matchball
It's very hard when I have staff who have lost family members /broken up with partners …....you want to hug them and make it OK but as a male you just can't in this day and age
Very delicate and we can't really tell from here. Scott Bolton might legitimately have no idea of normal social cues - wouldn't surprise me in a prominent footballer. He might also have a very low threshold for what he considers appropriate or consent; I think about the Doggies incident last year where you had blokes touching each other's genitals in public and they didn't think it weird.
Or maybe Bolton has normal perceptions of non-verbal cues and the woman provided mixed or inappropriate signals. That also wouldn't surprise me, the number of women I know who can't properly read the intentions of a man still shocks me.
I was discussing recently with a mate the Aziz Ansari case, where he invited a woman to his place after a date, she accepted, and he attempted to gain consent to have sex. She was hesitant and claimed to have given non-verbal cues, then finally told him in words, at which time he backed right off and she left unmolested. Ultimately I get the impression that Ansari has been publicly exonerated, but not without being put through the wringers first. Probably doesn't hurt that he's a little fellow and not some 7 ft barbarian.
I told my mate my ultimate thought is that a woman can say "no" at any time, of course, but also women need to vocalise that feeling as early as possible. Yes many women are worried about offending or possibly enraging a man, but also men aren't mind readers. Think of how many husbands don't understand or perceive why their wives are cranky, the old cliche, then apply that generally to dudes trying get their ends in. You would think that only sociopaths would keep trying if a woman says "no" to their face.
Also, women need to understand that if a man invites you back to his place, or you invite him to yours, that there is a very very very good chance he's hoping for a root. This should be taught to women in schools, so we are all clear that men are typically very interested and eager to root women, with consent. So if you are not interested or not sure, better to decline and avoid the chance. It's the same idea as not walking home by yourself in the dark - you of course have every right to expect to be safe walking anywhere any time, but also The Real World exists.
Or perhaps we do what pigeons or many other birds do and develop a copulation dance posture, so it's official and obvious that we are trying to mate.
Very entertaining post!
I wanna know what this "bonkology" class in schools is going to be called?
@ said:I'm surprised they don't have minders already.
Paid mates. Wonder if that's under the salary cap.
@ said:This case seems very confusing to me. On the night and until the court case she claims he grabbed her nether regions. He has claimed since it was her thigh. Surely she knows the difference between the two body parts. He. claims he was very drunk and the whole night was a blur. How was the charge downgraded to Common assault from Indecent? To be fair, she hasn’t come out screaming injustice and apparently agreed with the plea bargain. He must have grabbed that thigh very vigorously! Bolton was one very lucky peanut. Regardless, he will be on very long gardening leave you would imagine. This was Cowboys sanctioned drink fest I assume. What punishment awaits the Cowboys? Also, why wasn’t Bolton stood down for the next match at the very least?
@ said:This case seems very confusing to me. On the night and until the court case she claims he grabbed her nether regions. He has claimed since it was her thigh. Surely she knows the difference between the two body parts. He. claims he was very drunk and the whole night was a blur. How was the charge downgraded to Common assault from Indecent? To be fair, she hasn’t come out screaming injustice and apparently agreed with the plea bargain. He must have grabbed that thigh very vigorously! Bolton was one very lucky peanut. Regardless, he will be on very long gardening leave you would imagine. This was Cowboys sanctioned drink fest I assume. What punishment awaits the Cowboys? Also, why wasn’t Bolton stood down for the next match at the very least?
@ said:Where’s the scandal?