OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

@Nasser said in [Mbye last night](/post/1158678) said:
5 runs for 19 metres last night. Also had a game changing play when he takes a straight hit up 1m out and gets dragged in goal.

Keep in mind this guy is paid 30% more Ponga, and at roughly the same price as Tedesco.
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Wasn't given any ball, but I do take your point he wasn't particularly involved in tough carries either.

Mbye not paid anything like Tedesco?

Tedesco is on a million bucks. This salary thing keeps coming up with Mbye, people seem to forget how little we paid for Mbye the first year or two when Doggies were subsidising his wage, so you need to take into account his average wage over the whole contract. People also forget we signed him in the middle of 2018 for a specific reason, and the dude that signed him is gone. So the money is irrelevant now, the question is "is he a first-grader and do we have better options?"
 
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@momo_amp_medo said in [Mbye last night](/post/1158863) said:
Yep .... very good defence but gun shy in attack.
But he is definitely not Capitan material.
Ahhhhh what I would give to see Tommy Raudonikis or Wayne Pearce in our team again with c next to their name.

If Tommy or Pearce were in our team they would get sent off for knocking the other 16 guys out..
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No mate ...would happen in the dressing room
 
@Moh said in [Mbye](/post/1158368) said:
I don't think Mbye is our biggest problem. I agree with a lot of what most of you are saying, but the fact he's really solid in defense makes me OK with him being there for now.

Just needs to get more involved in attack.
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I actually think Mybe is our biggest problem because he is the co-captain but does not inspire the players around him. If you look at other teams there captains lead by example either run meters, hard hit up when needed, kick in general play, 40/20, or a play to win the game when close.

I watched his press interview this week and nothing he said inspired me that he would do better this next game, and certainly placed no ownership for the loss last week like Brooks and AD.

He was signed for $3 Million on a 4 year deal by the Tigers - $750k season average and the dogs have had to put in $525k for 3 years - $175k season until this year in 2020. That puts him at $881,250 per season.
This was to be a fullback but he could not hold down that position, we signed AD for $600k a season so on that observation we are paying $281,250 extra per season playing centre or overall $1,125,000 over the term of the contract.

I have nothing against the player being a QLD supporter but i was also scratching my head last year when he obtained the utility role.

Will be watching with interest this week, i am hoping that for the team's sake he plays well but i think that after this season they may be looking to off load him considering the bulldogs wont be tipping anything in anymore next season and he might already know this with his general attitude.

That's my thoughts and always subjected to be debated.
 
@Tigerbuck63 said in [Mbye](/post/1160275) said:
@Moh said in [Mbye](/post/1158368) said:
I don't think Mbye is our biggest problem. I agree with a lot of what most of you are saying, but the fact he's really solid in defense makes me OK with him being there for now.

Just needs to get more involved in attack.


I actually think Mybe is our biggest problem because he is the co-captain but does not inspire the players around him. If you look at other teams there captains lead by example either run meters, hard hit up when needed, kick in general play, 40/20, or a play to win the game when close.

I watched his press interview this week and nothing he said inspired me that he would do better this next game, and certainly placed no ownership for the loss last week like Brooks and AD.

He was signed for $3 Million on a 4 year deal by the Tigers - $750k season average and the dogs have had to put in $525k for 3 years - $175k season until this year in 2020. That puts him at $881,250 per season.
This was to be a fullback but he could not hold down that position, we signed AD for $600k a season so on that observation we are paying $281,250 extra per season playing centre or overall $1,125,000 over the term of the contract.

I have nothing against the player being a QLD supporter but i was also scratching my head last year when he obtained the utility role.

Will be watching with interest this week, i am hoping that for the team's sake he plays well but i think that after this season they may be looking to off load him considering the bulldogs wont be tipping anything in anymore next season and he might already know this with his general attitude.

That's my thoughts and always subjected to be debated.
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Agree...<Mbye is not in any way inspirational
 
If Mbye is given some ball and someone running with him you will notice what a good footballer he is...IMO Benji has been to influential in this team being the club legend,so Mbye and others let him make the calls ..its as simple as that ...and now Madge has woken up...
 
Man , all the Mbye hate is just not fair. Gone are the days of your best attacking weapon being your centre. That’s literally why Latrell wanted to play fullback. You don’t touch the ball in the 3&4. Teams just don’t run early ball plays anymore. Most of the time it’s out the back , and the centre has to decide to draw and pass or go himself.
On the other hand , if you have a Joey type , a big unit who can crash over close to the line , then you buy that player.
Why you actually need , is a Morris type , who is handy in attack , but very solid defensively . But there’s times where you will watch a game and wonder what he did out there.
What he did was not allow any tries or breaks down his side , and force the attack to the other side of the field . Does this sound like Mbye on the weekend ? To me it does . They tried early down his side , then they said nope , and just kept heaving bombs up to useless Jennings . Which is a bit of a Hail Mary play. On the weekend it paid off for them. There’s no reason why Mbye can’t reinvent himself as a defensive wall , who can do enough damage with the ball to keep defenders honest. Sure that’s not the 750k player we bought . But it could be the 400-500k captain we have next contract moving forward. I feel like a his is the plan . And why BJ is on the other side of the field .
 
defensively Mmbye is great we dont leak too many points down his side and it would be great if he went to Nofo's side might help the defensive aspect of his game
 
His kicking last night was great. Slotted them over from all over the field . And it wasn’t like he was hitting them wrong and they were near enough is good enough . They were good purchased strikes ,that went over the black dot more times than not.
He’s a great kicker . It feels like he needed to be told he’s the man . And hopefully this has happened and he is putting in the hours .
 
Looks like he’s over that injury which helps. Struck them sweetly and nailed one from the sideline which should give him confidence
 
Lets face it, it was one of those nights where everything went right for the first half. Too often we're on the receiving end so it was a nice change. If he can keep doing that, things will change in a big way. How many games do we lose due to ordinary kicking?
 
I was more surprised by his speed when he set up that try! Glad he has overcome that knee problem because you could tell it affected his speed.
 
@Madge said in [Mbye goal kicking](/post/1166729) said:
I was more surprised by his speed when he set up that try! Glad he has overcome that knee problem because you could tell it affected his speed.
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I thought last night was comfortably his best game for the Tigers.
 
@2041 said in [Mbye goal kicking](/post/1166779) said:
@Madge said in [Mbye goal kicking](/post/1166729) said:
I was more surprised by his speed when he set up that try! Glad he has overcome that knee problem because you could tell it affected his speed.

I thought last night was comfortably his best game for the Tigers.
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He will get better,Moses has good speed,great defence and a goal kicker as well..
 
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