OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet
 
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He hasn't asked for a release, he's asked to speak to other clubs. That means if he agrees to join a rival club they will come to tigers and ask us to pay some of his salary otherwise he'll be staying here.
 
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

Exactly he wants out the club has no commitment to pay anything ...so $800K to spend that's the best news so far this season.
 
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325656) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He hasn't asked for a release, he's asked to speak to other clubs. That means if he agrees to join a rival club they will come to tigers and ask us to pay some of his salary otherwise he'll be staying here.

Well he can stay and play Reggie's
 
@dgilly said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325662) said:
Use the money to get Daniel Tupou, he's off contract. Hastings and Tupou would be a great pair of signings

Nicho Hynes, Reynolds, Gagai all options too
 
@dgilly said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325666) said:
@dgilly said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325662) said:
Use the money to get Daniel Tupou, he's off contract. Hastings and Tupou would be a great pair of signings

Nicho Hynes, Reynolds, Gagai all options too

I would love Hynes as a Tiger!
 
@geo said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325558) said:
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325554) said:
@geo said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325550) said:
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325547) said:
@weststigerman said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325545) said:
Probably explains the Hastings talk. With Walters and Mbye potentially gone, we'll need a half utility. Even better if it's someone that can potentially push an incumbent out.

Not sure I'd want to pay half to let him go, but I'd chip in 25-30%.

Don’t think Hastings is happening.

Not for 2021..at this stage

2022 however..

I’d like to think we are aiming higher than Hastings. Especially if we have both Mbye and Packer’s money.

He won the man of steel..


So did Adrian Vowles and Rangi Chase.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325655) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/
 
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325580) said:
@coastie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325576) said:
At least he’s honest can’t ask for more than that still can’t see many teams lining up for him.

This is the issue..
We’ll end up paying another club $300k to let him go .


would be ecstatic if thats all he costs
 
@snake said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325658) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325656) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He hasn't asked for a release, he's asked to speak to other clubs. That means if he agrees to join a rival club they will come to tigers and ask us to pay some of his salary otherwise he'll be staying here.

Well he can stay and play Reggie's

Why? I'd rather pay $400k for him to be gone and use the other $400k on someone better than spend $800k on him to stay and probably not make our team.
 
@tigerwest said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325669) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325655) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad
 
Moses is the smartest footballer in the game. He does this half way through a season with a year in addition to run on the contracts. Gets his existing club and another club to pay half the freight and then negotiates another year or two on top. The existing club gets cap space. D gets rid of a dead set loafer and the new club gets a cheap deal.
 
@snake said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325657) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

Exactly he wants out the club has no commitment to pay anything ...so $800K to spend that's the best news so far this season.


Rubbish.....that is the case if Moses finds a club thats willing to pay him $800K (almost impossible) but otherwise, unless he is willing to throw money down the toilet, it will be a value decision on Mbye and the clubs part. He finds a club thats willing to pay him $X and tells the club he is happy to leave if the Tigers pay him close to $800-X.

Deluded if you think otherwise.
 
@snake said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325658) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325656) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He hasn't asked for a release, he's asked to speak to other clubs. That means if he agrees to join a rival club they will come to tigers and ask us to pay some of his salary otherwise he'll be staying here.

Well he can stay and play Reggie's


Or be used off the bench, whatever purpose Madge sees fit, kinda like now.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325676) said:
@tigerwest said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325669) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325655) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad

No probs (that’s problems) great grand father
 
@tiger5150 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325668) said:
@geo said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325558) said:
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325554) said:
@geo said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325550) said:
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325547) said:
@weststigerman said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325545) said:
Probably explains the Hastings talk. With Walters and Mbye potentially gone, we'll need a half utility. Even better if it's someone that can potentially push an incumbent out.

Not sure I'd want to pay half to let him go, but I'd chip in 25-30%.

Don’t think Hastings is happening.

Not for 2021..at this stage

2022 however..

I’d like to think we are aiming higher than Hastings. Especially if we have both Mbye and Packer’s money.

He won the man of steel..


So did Adrian Vowles and Rangi Chase.

There’s always some that don’t go on ... Brooks got Dally M half once and look what happened to him.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325676) said:
@tigerwest said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325669) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325655) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad

No probs (that means problems) great grand father
 
@tigerwest said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325686) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325676) said:
@tigerwest said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325669) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325655) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325653) said:
@jc99 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325651) said:
@lukic said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1325643) said:
I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad

No probs (that means problems) great grand father

You’ll learn to edit a post one day ?
 

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