OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/it-was-a-shock-mbye-surprised-by-cleary-s-handling-of-tigers-exit-20190402-p519y8.html

Wests Tigers skipper Moses Mbye says he's sure Ivan Cleary would handle his exit from the NRL joint venture differently if he had his time over again.

Five months after his ugly departure from Concord to link up with his son Nathan at Penrith, coach Cleary will come up against his former side for the first time when the two teams clash at Panthers Stadium on Friday night. Cleary's defection still lingers of Concord, an episode which strained friendships between him and officials and players.

For months prior to announcing he had jumped ship on a five-year deal, Cleary publicly maintained that he intended to honour his contract. Mbye says he harbours no ill feelings towards a former coach he respects but understands why some of of his teammates would.

It was a little bit of a shock the way it was handled," Mbye said. "Looking back, Ivan, if he had his chance again, he would have handled it differently.

"It's happened. These conversations are warranted this week because we are playing against Ivan and the Panthers. It's in the past, it was six months ago."

Mbye said he spoke to Cleary on the phone after the coach was released by the Tigers, however, many were informed via text.

"We were on holidays when he made his final decision," Mbye said. "A couple of weeks prior he addressed us and said he was going to stay.

"I don't think it hampered our performance, we went down to Canberra and broke the Canberra hoodoo and we had our best performance of the season." Mbye said he understood Cleary wanted to secure his own future and the chance to win a premiership with his son.

But behind the scenes many Tigers players remain upset, in particular those who signed to play under Cleary.

And Mbye said they had a right to be angry. I can't speak for anyone else. I understand how the game kind of works. It's a game where if you're presented opportunities as good as what he was presented, they're hard to knock back.

"He set out to coach his son and win a premiership with his son. He's got that desire and pursued that goal.

"I have a high regard for Ivan, I have a lot of respect for him. He's moved on and that's it, we're happy with what we've ended up with."
 
Jesus football has gone soft. I wouldn't even be surprised if we see Ivan in our sheds at full time.

I wished someone had said that Ivan dogged the club and we are going to take it out on his son this Friday night so he had better watch out.
 
They don’t need to say anything. Just show it on Friday night with every hit, every run, every word, every point scored. Then after the win - smile!
 
Jeez I would love a couple of the players to go off script.

Penrith are no better than us. A bunch of local juniors who will be snapped up by bigger fish once the novelty of making home made porn with your mates wears off.
 
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/wests-tigers-team-news-josh-reynolds-benji-marshall-injured-moses-mbye-penrith-panthers/hyxc07k7szub1t8nzqdnlys4g

Wests Tigers captain Moses Mbye says his side is fully behind Josh Reynolds starting in the halves if Benji Marshall is ruled out of this Friday night's clash with the Panthers in Penrith.

Marshall hobbled off the pitch with a hamstring injury with 15 minutes to play in Sunday's shock loss to the Bulldogs at Campbelltown Stadium. The veteran playmaker is expected to be sidelined for at least a week, allowing Reynolds a chance to stake his claim for a spot in Michael Maguire's first grade side.

After vying with Marshall over the off-season for a spot in the halves, Reynolds has starred for Wests in the Canterbury Cup over the first three weeks of the season.

With the Tigers coming off their first defeat of the year, Mbye is adamant the side won't be too disrupted by Reynolds' inclusion.

"We spent three months over summer grinding it out in pre-season," Mbye told media on Tuesday.

"Josh and Benji were … you didn't know who was going to play in round one until the Tuesday prior to playing Manly.

"So we've spent plenty of time together on the training paddock.

"It's not a major concern considering we spent all that time together in opposed sessions.

"He's had a couple of really good performances in Canterbury Cup and the boys have full confidence in Josh to be able to come in and do his role.

"He's a first grade player, he's an Origin player. He's won an Origin series before, he's played in two Grand Finals.

"He's a quality first grader and he knows what to do out there. I've got full trust in him."

Wests Tigers have full confidence in Josh Reynolds replacing Benji Marshall, says Moses Mbye

Wests Tigers captain Moses Mbye says his side is fully behind Josh Reynolds starting in the halves if Benji Marshall is ruled out of this Friday night's clash with the Panthers in Penrith.

Marshall hobbled off the pitch with a hamstring injury with 15 minutes to play in Sunday's shock loss to the Bulldogs at Campbelltown Stadium.

The veteran playmaker [is expected to be sidelined for at least a week, allowing Reynolds a chance to stake his claim for a spot in Michael Maguire's first grade side.

After vying with Marshall over the off-season for a spot in the halves, Reynolds has starred for Wests in the Canterbury Cup over the first three weeks of the season.

With the Tigers coming off their first defeat of the year, Mbye is adamant the side won't be too disrupted by Reynolds' inclusion.

"We spent three months over summer grinding it out in pre-season," Mbye told media on Tuesday.

"Josh and Benji were ... you didn't know who was going to play in round one until the Tuesday prior to playing Manly.

"So we've spent plenty of time together on the training paddock.

"It's not a major concern considering we spent all that time together in opposed sessions.

"He's had a couple of really good performances in Canterbury Cup and the boys have full confidence in Josh to be able to come in and do his role.

"He's a first grade player, he's an Origin player. He's won an Origin series before, he's played in two Grand Finals.

"He's a quality first grader and he knows what to do out there. I've got full trust in him."

The Tigers received a decent spray from Maguire after falling to the previously winless Bulldogs, but Mbye said it's nothing he hasn't experienced before.

"He showed a bit of his passion, but I've been coached by Des Hasler before, so Madge's sprays were on par," he said.

"He was disappointed with our performance, as we all were. Those weren't our standards and we're looking to bounce back from that.

"We've had a good recovery and we're focusing on the game."

Mbye, who played 11 first grade games under Ivan Cleary last year, wouldn't weigh-in on the drama surrounding the coach's new team, the Panthers.

Mbye's Tigers travel west to play their old mentor this Friday, but Mbye had nothing but praise for Cleary.

"Ivan's a guy I've got a lot of respect for and he's a very respected man," he said.

"The reason Penrith wanted him out there for five years is for that reason.

"He's a good coach and a good guy and that's how I see him."
 
Stop with the mamby pamby we respect Ivan blah blah blah ….meh

You want to tear his heart out and stomp on it and kick his son in the goolies until his old man says "I quit "

I want to the see the old hatred that Wests and Penrith had when all the ex Magpies like Darren Brown and Manoa Thompson went to Penrith after Ryan was sacked and see Skando licking the blood off his lip with a smile on his dial

I say we declare WAR on those Poncy Panthers and bring hell with us ....:rage:
 
C'mon HT, don't beat around the bush , say what you really think.
Perfect scenario is tigers win this weekend, tigers make the finals, panfers miss the finals and the Toad sacks Ivan again!
 
Glad WTs have confidence in him… I don't unfortunately... Love his passion but he's not the same player since he arrived at Concord
 
Two key thoughts:
We can't keep going with no backs on our bench.
We lost Benji, we lost the game by 14 points against a side we should have beaten comfortably.

Reynolds will be a good addition because Brooks is the Common factor in all of this. Should help give him ownership as long as Robbie treats him as first reciever.
 
Reynolds seems to get excited very easily…and then when under the pump he loses composure, starts playing for himself,little chips & grubbers when nothings on etc...he needs to keep calm and focused for 80 for us the get the best from him
 
@Harvey said:
I am hopeful Josh can get through the game unscathed.

Me too, he is due some luck, I think if he can stay fit he will be an asset, I mean he doesn't have to play real well to be better than what Benji has been dishing up
 
Mbye is a first grade talker.
Doesn't deliver on the field.

No confidence in him.
 

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