OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

@twentyforty said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365228) said:
@cultured_bogan said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365206) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365191) said:
With push coming to shove, and Dragons supposedly wanting him NOW, I think many here will start to realise the reality about Moses.

If you disregard how much he is being paid (thanks Ivan), he is very valuable to the team. Disregarding how well he played at 6 last week, literally if anyone goes down or fails at 1, 3, 4, 6 or (at a pinch)7, even 9 Mbye is probably close to first thought.

Yes but it is clear he is not in future plans, so best to move on and plan for the future when the opporunity is present. If anyone thinks this year is still a goer they are living in fantasyland.


? yep we’re certainties ? according to many on here. I do admire their confidence though.
Mbye has said himself, “no point in having your best player sitting on the bench”
I’m just so happy to have someone listening to him ?
Oh , this is too funny.

The coach has to think differently. His position relies on performance. We all know we can't win but making the eight at this point is possible and for Maguire that has to be a goal as it would be for Griffin - hence why he wants Mybe now. Why strengthen them and weaken us? It's not so simple when there is still a way to go in this year.
 
Here is the article:

Moses Mbye offered immediate switch to Dragons but Wests Tigers set to block move

Moses Mbye has been offered the chance to join the Dragons immediately, yet Wests Tigers may block the move despite wanting him off the books for next season.

That's according to Sydney Morning Herald rugby league reporter Michael Chammas, speaking on Nine's 100% Footy. Mbye is being pursued as a bench utility, despite being on an $800,000 per season contract.

"He's been shopping himself around for 2022. The Tigers gave him permission to look around [for] next year," Chammas said.

"Now, the Dragons have expressed interest. They met with Moses Mbye and they've said to Moses, 'We could make you an offer, as long as you're willing to come right now'.

"Now, I think you'll find that his management has reached out to the Tigers to see if Moses Mbye could leave immediately. The Dragons want him as early as this week.

"But I think after last week, what we saw from the Wests Tigers, there's a reluctance from the club to let him go. That's a bit of a risk because I think you'll find privately, they do want Moses Mbye off the books for next year; but if they're not willing to take this offer from the Dragons right now, I think it's off the table."

Chammas said that Wests Tigers were prepared to pay $400,000 of Mbye's contract at another club for next season.

"I think the Tigers have said to Moses Mbye they're willing to pay up to half of that next year," Chammas said.

"I don't think this year though because they're two points outside the eight."

Mbye has played State of Origin for Queensland but has struggled to justify his hefty price tag at Wests Tigers; a fact that he's openly admitted. He has shuffled around in the Tigers line-up, playing five-eighth in Friday's win over Newcastle.

Wests Tigers are 13th on the NRL ladder but just one win from eighth place, while the Dragons are running sixth under new coach Anthony Griffin.
 
Dragons want him as early as this week according to Chammas. If we’re seriously considering this, it could make for an interesting team list Tuesday.
 
@stevo133 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365235) said:
Dragons have been trying to get rid of Corey Norman for a while will tigers be stupid enough to agree to that swap?

We’re as dumb as any club there is, but even we’re not that stupid.
 
tough situation this one. I actually think if Moses puts himself in the shop window as a 6 he might end up as one in the future at a new club. might work out for both parties, except the dragqueens of course. at this stage we can't let him go. unless we managed to sign a centre mid season, I can't see it happening.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365163) said:
If they want him that badly they can pay the whole contract.

He's going there to play what position though? He'd be in the same boat there as he is with us.

Maybe Mbye is a future coach. Basically a coach needs to be a person manager not a good player. Certainly Mbye is average player at best and was a terrible captain.
 
There will be plenty of interest from other clubs for next year especially if we are paying half the contract. Why get rid of him now we won't get anyone better for this year.
 
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365219) said:
@speed2burn said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365121) said:
@truetiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365118) said:
Dragons want Moses Mbye as early as next week...Tigers dont want to let him go although giving him permission to talk to other clubs...
damned if we do damned if we dont...
All the Mbye knockers cant wait to see the back of him,after last weeks game I can see why Madge wants to keep him...

source wide world of sport....

For Ben Hunt and you got yourself a deal

...kidding

Up until a couple weeks ago I would have said yes

But I really think we need him until we Atleast get Hastings...or maybe we could entice Hynes over early then


Hynes to leave a side with a shot at winning the premiership mid-season to come to us? Yeah, nah.

Well he even says he wants to be a starter every week. Full strength Melbourne he won’t get the chance

You’d be surprised how many kids would leave good systems just to get a crack at starting in the NRL .. Our very own Daine Laurie for example
 
As long as the dollars are right, let him go.
If they want him that bad then makes sure they pay full freight nxt year otherwise screw them.
Talau to 6 until Hastings gets here next year.
Use mbye dollars for cheese to play 13.
 
@truetiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365118) said:
Dragons want Moses Mbye as early as next week...Tigers dont want to let him go although giving him permission to talk to other clubs...
damned if we do damned if we dont...
All the Mbye knockers cant wait to see the back of him,after last weeks game I can see why Madge wants to keep him...

source wide world of sport....

I was surprised that Brooks and Mbye worked as they are both primarily runners 1st ....but when you think of it ...it forces Brooks to run more ....I thought Douehi and Mbye might work .....but it was a no brainer that Mbye would work to some degree .....when he does play 6/7 his best game is far short of Brooks best game ..but his worst game is better than Brooks worst game at the moment

Hopefully the scare of seeing the heir apparent on the bench stuck a big enough bomb under Brooks to understand that this is his side ...take it by the balls ....and continue to play like he did in the 1st half ...run early and put the defence in two minds ...and everything on most occasions will look after itself ...but if Brooks has a shocker this weekend .....game on again
 
@speed2burn said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365243) said:
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365219) said:
@speed2burn said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365121) said:
@truetiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365118) said:
Dragons want Moses Mbye as early as next week...Tigers dont want to let him go although giving him permission to talk to other clubs...
damned if we do damned if we dont...
All the Mbye knockers cant wait to see the back of him,after last weeks game I can see why Madge wants to keep him...

source wide world of sport....

For Ben Hunt and you got yourself a deal

...kidding

Up until a couple weeks ago I would have said yes

But I really think we need him until we Atleast get Hastings...or maybe we could entice Hynes over early then


Hynes to leave a side with a shot at winning the premiership mid-season to come to us? Yeah, nah.

Well he even says he wants to be a starter every week. Full strength Melbourne he won’t get the chance

You’d be surprised how many kids would leave good systems just to get a crack at starting in the NRL .. Our very own Daine Laurie for example


Laurie was 3rd string fullback and wouldn’t have even made the 17. Hynes leaving at the end of the year could come here at the right price. Not mid year, when he’s a regular in a top 4 side.
 
Forgot to add in my other post that we've told Moses that we'd pay up to 50% of his 800k salary.
 
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365251) said:
@speed2burn said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365243) said:
@gnr4life said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365219) said:
@speed2burn said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365121) said:
@truetiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365118) said:
Dragons want Moses Mbye as early as next week...Tigers dont want to let him go although giving him permission to talk to other clubs...
damned if we do damned if we dont...
All the Mbye knockers cant wait to see the back of him,after last weeks game I can see why Madge wants to keep him...

source wide world of sport....

For Ben Hunt and you got yourself a deal

...kidding

Up until a couple weeks ago I would have said yes

But I really think we need him until we Atleast get Hastings...or maybe we could entice Hynes over early then


Hynes to leave a side with a shot at winning the premiership mid-season to come to us? Yeah, nah.

Well he even says he wants to be a starter every week. Full strength Melbourne he won’t get the chance

You’d be surprised how many kids would leave good systems just to get a crack at starting in the NRL .. Our very own Daine Laurie for example


Laurie was 3rd string fullback and wouldn’t have even made the 17. Hynes leaving at the end of the year could come here at the right price. Not mid year, when he’s a regular in a top 4 side.

"It would be hard to leave this club, but I really do want to test myself, be a starting player and be a key member in a spine.”

Hynes after the Saints game

If he could get a lucrative deal I’m sure he wouldn’t mind. He’s probably on peanuts atm
 
@wt2k said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365252) said:
Forgot to add in my other post that we've told Moses that we'd pay up to 50% of his 800k salary.

That would leave us with about a million for this year and options *but* would leave us really light in the backs. I'd still do it.
 
If the Dragons took on the entirety of his contract this year and at least half next year i'd honestly let him go. I know he played well last week but we do have options in the halves and one decent game doesnt make a season. We need to shift guys like him on these ridiculous contracts we may not have another golden chance like this. I would add on the proviso he didnt play against us in 2 weeks time, we all know how that could end.
 
@coastie_tiger said in [Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread](/post/1365273) said:
If the Dragons took on the entirety of his contract this year and at least half next year i'd honestly let him go. I know he played well last week but we do have options in the halves and one decent game doesnt make a season. We need to shift guys like him on these ridiculous contracts we may not have another golden chance like this. I would add on the proviso he didnt play against us in 2 weeks time, we all know how that could end.

I would be reluctant to let him go unless everything is in our favour...we have all spoken before how versatile Moses is to our team....many dislike him because of his huge salary,not his fault as we all know whose fault it is,but,on the weekend we saw just how well he plays in the halves and this is why Ivan bought him,to be a play maker,after Ivan cruelled us Moses was shoved from pillar to post....whatever happens I wish Mbye all the best in his future in the game....
 
All those pushing for Madden at 6 or 7 may well get their wish. Madge introduces Madden at 6 off the bench over the next few weeks until we play the Dragons, then releases Mbye to them after that. In the meantime Madden gets some practice at NRL.
The Dragons pay half his remaining salary this year (we have some room so can afford it) and $600K of next years. Take it or leave it!!
 
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