OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

Groundhog day. He's been given every opportunity to cement a spot and can't nail one down. 14 is probably he's only hope but this will be at the detriment of Jake Simpkin. Thats a worrying proposition. Madge has a big call to make. Left right out is his best position.
 
Where does that leave Simpkin?

Big decisions this year. Mbye would cover a backline injury far better, but Simpkin is a far better hooker sub.

No way these 2 make the bench together
 
@mike said in [Will Mbye have to turn into the Tigers’ super sub?](/post/1310223) said:
MBye as a Super Sub would be the best outcome I think.

Spare me ... the new recruits have brought a paradigm shift in attitude and commitment, Mbye is a real issue for us moving forward - despite being handed the Captaincy he showed no enthusiasm or verbal ability to rally the troops...
We’re only talking “super sub” because of the coin he is on for the next 2 seasons otherwise he’d be put out to pasture. He has no mental strength.
At 27 years old and 3rd year into a huge contract he doesn’t know what his position is?
 
I do like the bloke, just think he offers my team zilch. Backup at best. Leave him in reggies and hope he wants out. Waste of a spot in the squad. Mid season swap for Hastings would be nice
 
Mbye will play a role for our WT throughout the year and almost certainly be picked each and every week that he is fit and available for selection. Bitching about his pay isn't going to change anything.
 
He just rolled over and let a player win his fullback position when they’ve been at the club for a few weeks of pre seasons and 2 trial games.

I’ll play him at 6 round 1, then Interchange 14 following on from that.

Just pretty upsetting because I believe young Simpkins will do damage this year coming on with tired legs from DH.

But I also guess that Mbye can also scoot around and do that.
 
He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position
 
Moses it too talented for his own good.

Not too many blokes can rack up nearly 150 games across five positions and make origin.

In a club with little depth, it easy for a guy like him to get shuffled around like a pack of Uno cards on family game night and never really settle into a position.

Nevertheless, it's going to be hard for him to cement a spot under Madge. He would see him as part of the old guard that are slowly getting moved on.
 
@jc99 said in [Will Mbye have to turn into the Tigers’ super sub?](/post/1310242) said:
He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel
 
For round one I'd have Mbye @ 6,coming up against one of the best sixes in the comp could be a bridge to far for Madden. Last weeks trial even thou the opposition was ordinary showed WT'S are a better team this year and need to hit the ground winning with some very competitive games happening early its imperative we keep the tradition of good early form and wins going.
 
@the_third said in [Will Mbye have to turn into the Tigers’ super sub?](/post/1310231) said:
Where does that leave Simpkin?

Big decisions this year. Mbye would cover a backline injury far better, but Simpkin is a far better hooker sub.

No way these 2 make the bench together


My take is a hooker sub is going to get a lot more game time than a utility sub. I suppose Mbye can also play hooker.

I reckon Mbye will get the bench spot but I'd prefer Simpkin.
 
@earl said in [Will Mbye have to turn into the Tigers’ super sub?](/post/1310256) said:
@the_third said in [Will Mbye have to turn into the Tigers’ super sub?](/post/1310231) said:
Where does that leave Simpkin?

Big decisions this year. Mbye would cover a backline injury far better, but Simpkin is a far better hooker sub.

No way these 2 make the bench together


My take is a hooker sub is going to get a lot more game time than a utility sub. I suppose Mbye can also play hooker.

I reckon Mbye will get the bench spot but I'd prefer Simpkin.


Im with you on that. With the August 1 deadline and potentially a few injuries for other teams he might be on for a mid year swap. But who knows.

Also, there was that article about Billy Walters wanting to go to the Broncos where he mentioned that we had made recruitment decisions based on him being here this year (ie no Benji). It seems like we are quite planned this year and a mid year swap may not be part of the plan. Refreshing.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Will Mbye have to turn into the Tigers’ super sub?](/post/1310299) said:
4 bad ass forwards holding our guts together defensively ...forget the utilities

That would be the ideal, but I think you need someone that can cover the backline. Lose a centre and you have to put a forward out there? A decent team would crucify you. I think Mbye plays a vital role at 14.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Will Mbye have to turn into the Tigers’ super sub?](/post/1310299) said:
4 bad ass forwards holding our guts together defensively ...forget the utilities


Agreed, and also forget the little hooker "playing as a lock"
 
It's a hard one - I think he's a 14 for that utility value, which means Simpkin misses out - it may be Liddle plays 60 minutes and subject to injuries, Mbye plays the final 20 or something but I feel we need to run with 3 solid middle players.
 
My read of things is he will play 14 untill there are injuries in the backline in which Simpkin will then wear the 14.
It's a good position for us to be in as I don't think Liddle at 14 should be a given. I'd rather him and Liddle fight out the main hooking role rather than getting content sharing it.
 

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