Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread

[tiger_one]

Use the money to get Daniel Tupou, he's off contract. Hastings and Tupou would be a great pair of signings

Nicho Hynes, Reynolds, Gagai all options too

I would love Hynes as a Tiger!

 

[Tiger5150]

Probably explains the Hastings talk. With Walters and Mbye potentially gone, we'll need a half utility. Even better if it's someone that can potentially push an incumbent out.

Not sure I'd want to pay half to let him go, but I'd chip in 25-30%.

Don’t think Hastings is happening.

Not for 2021..at this stage

2022 however..

I’d like to think we are aiming higher than Hastings. Especially if we have both Mbye and Packer’s money.

He won the man of steel..

So did Adrian Vowles and Rangi Chase.

 

[TigerWest]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

 

[Tiger5150]

At least he’s honest can’t ask for more than that still can’t see many teams lining up for him.

This is the issue..
We’ll end up paying another club $300k to let him go .

would be ecstatic if thats all he costs

 

[JC99]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He hasn't asked for a release, he's asked to speak to other clubs. That means if he agrees to join a rival club they will come to tigers and ask us to pay some of his salary otherwise he'll be staying here.

Well he can stay and play Reggie's

Why? I'd rather pay $400k for him to be gone and use the other $400k on someone better than spend $800k on him to stay and probably not make our team.

 

[hobbo1]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad

 

[TYGA]

Moses is the smartest footballer in the game. He does this half way through a season with a year in addition to run on the contracts. Gets his existing club and another club to pay half the freight and then negotiates another year or two on top. The existing club gets cap space. D gets rid of a dead set loafer and the new club gets a cheap deal.

 

[Tiger5150]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

Exactly he wants out the club has no commitment to pay anything ...so $800K to spend that's the best news so far this season.

Rubbish.....that is the case if Moses finds a club thats willing to pay him $800K (almost impossible) but otherwise, unless he is willing to throw money down the toilet, it will be a value decision on Mbye and the clubs part. He finds a club thats willing to pay him $X and tells the club he is happy to leave if the Tigers pay him close to $800-X.

Deluded if you think otherwise.

 

[Tiger5150]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He hasn't asked for a release, he's asked to speak to other clubs. That means if he agrees to join a rival club they will come to tigers and ask us to pay some of his salary otherwise he'll be staying here.

Well he can stay and play Reggie's

Or be used off the bench, whatever purpose Madge sees fit, kinda like now.

 

[TigerWest]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad

No probs (that’s problems) great grand father

 

[cktiger]

Probably explains the Hastings talk. With Walters and Mbye potentially gone, we'll need a half utility. Even better if it's someone that can potentially push an incumbent out.

Not sure I'd want to pay half to let him go, but I'd chip in 25-30%.

Don’t think Hastings is happening.

Not for 2021..at this stage

2022 however..

I’d like to think we are aiming higher than Hastings. Especially if we have both Mbye and Packer’s money.

He won the man of steel..


So did Adrian Vowles and Rangi Chase.

There’s always some that don’t go on ... Brooks got Dally M half once and look what happened to him.

 

[TigerWest]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad

No probs (that means problems) great grand father

 

[hobbo1]

I don't think we're necessarily much better off if he leaves and we're left paying 400k or more.

Sure he's underperformed, but he's passable in first grade at a number of positions which makes him an excellent 14. He'd among the best backups in the league at fullback, in the halves or in the centres. Obviously you don't want to be paying 800k for someone to be an elite backup/utility guy, but at the same time, if we let him go for 400k, we need to find someone to fill that role for the same amount.

There's a handful of guys who are similar that immediately come to mind (Connor Watson & Kurt Mann), plus some others I'm sure.

I suppose the fresh start aspect is worth something, and if that 400k we're saving is the difference between us acquiring a star player, then sure it's worth it. But if it's getting rid of him just for the sake of getting rid of him to save some cap space, I'd rather just hold onto him if the alternative is subsidising a load of his salary.

I don't see him being in our top 17 in 2022 to be honest. That $400k can be put towards someone better

He asked for the release I don't think we are required to pay anything he'd be looking to secure a 3 year contract elsewhere to secure his future.

He’s seeked permission to negotiate
He hasn’t asked for a release as of yet

Wests Tigers statement on Moses Mbye

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/31/wests-tigers-statement-on-moses-mbye/

Thx Dad

No probs (that means problems) great grand father

You’ll learn to edit a post one day ?

 

[TigerLouis]

Wish him the best of luck. Have always found him a great club ambassador and I actually hope he gets the same chance as Corey Thompson did (with Titans) - the best possible outcome for he and his young family.

I don’t blame Mbye. Maguire is jeopardising our season by not picking the best players due to their pay packet that’s why he did not put him in the leadership group which I thought was very harsh. Mbye is a much better player than Kepaoa & should be playing in the centre’s he has played there for Queensland so surely he should be playing there for the Tigers who are a bit short of centre’s & Talau for mine has played better on the wing & should be playing in that position with Jake Simpkin on the bench. Another example is Russell Packer who really has not had that many opportunities to prove himself due to his pay packet while Luke Garner who would be on much less money is still given more chances even though his performances have not been that great for a while he did the same with Josh Reynolds overlooking him for Benji so then he would leave which is what happened. Maguire should just pick the best players he has available now & so we can make the semis.

 

[gallagher]

Wish him the best of luck. Have always found him a great club ambassador and I actually hope he gets the same chance as Corey Thompson did (with Titans) - the best possible outcome for he and his young family.

I don’t blame Mbye. Maguire is jeopardising our season by not picking the best players due to their pay packet that’s why he did not put him in the leadership group which I thought was very harsh. Mbye is a much better player than Kepaoa & should be playing in the centre’s he has played there for Queensland so surely he should be playing there for the Tigers who are a bit short of centre’s & Talau for mine has played better on the wing & should be playing in that position with Jake Simpkin on the bench. Another example is Russell Packer who really has not had that many opportunities to prove himself due to his pay packet while Luke Garner who would be on much less money is still given more chances even though his performances have not been that great for a while he did the same with Josh Reynolds overlooking him for Benji so then he would leave which is what happened. Maguire should just pick the best players he has available now & so we can make the semis.

Packer?? Another chance ?? Laughable

 

[Tiger5150]

Probably explains the Hastings talk. With Walters and Mbye potentially gone, we'll need a half utility. Even better if it's someone that can potentially push an incumbent out.

Not sure I'd want to pay half to let him go, but I'd chip in 25-30%.

Don’t think Hastings is happening.

Not for 2021..at this stage

2022 however..

I’d like to think we are aiming higher than Hastings. Especially if we have both Mbye and Packer’s money.

He won the man of steel..


So did Adrian Vowles and Rangi Chase.

There’s always some that don’t go on ... Brooks got Dally M half once and look what happened to him.

Adrian Vowles and Rangi Chase didnt, not go on......they went to SL because no one wanted them here, because they werent good enough. That is the whole point, the standard over there is WAY lower than here, probably lower than NSW Cup and with the money drying up over there, the standard is dropping. The salary cap in SL is now only AUD $3.8M plus 1 marquee. THAT is why some decent players have upped tools and come here, but for average Aussie who have gone there, its rare they make the transition back.

 

[watersider]

Not really keen on this being in the media and not sure why the club and player spoke to them about it. I'd be happy for him to go, just doesn't seem to fit anywhere for us. One option for this year anyway would be to put him in a sort of Connor Watson type lock role. I still think twal is a bit limited at lock and mbye has the right sort of skills to play there.

 

[851]

I still think twal is a bit limited at lock and mbye has the right sort of skills to play there.

Twal is not a bit limited at lock, he is hugely limited, as Daryl Kerrigan would say, "Tell him he's dreaming" if he thinks he is a lock, he is a prop, end of story

 

[Moh]

Say what you will about Mbye, but he's an absolute champion bloke.

Not his fault the club threw the money they did at him.

All class to come out and say what he has said, completely respectful unlike Tigers of the past, who I may add, had a lot stronger ties at the club.

 

[WT2K]

Not a bad problem to have if it means the WT are 400k better off next season.

Bit of $$$ to spend. Packer gone and assuming Joey isn't getting club option picked up.