Moses Suli

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JT signed this bloke on big money and Cleary released him as soon as he could. We dodged a bigger bullet than Suli last year.

10 clubs were chasing him last year for whatever that is worth. There were never any questions of his commitment till he got the injury. How Taylor gets blamed for that is laughable.

Fair point. I thought JT was laughable as coach tbh but it’s old news now.
 
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Hmm, you'd like to think as a new employee so to speak that you would be looking to set a good example for the new boss, but in Suli's case **_you have to wonder what's going through the bloke's head to behave this way._**

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Air.
 
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Tigers got this one right.

Bulldogs appear silly.

Iam sure the Dogs would have put some special clauses in his contract. Also coming down hard on him early might be the way to go rather than the softly softly approach. Be interesting to see where he is in 12 months time
 
I got it wrong about the clubs decision to offload Suli - and happy to admit it.
However the impression I had of him was based on the club media when he was signed - level headed kid with good people around him etc
Either things went very bad quickly after he was signed, or it was a riduclous decision to begin with. There was a story at the time that suggested that some of the senior players in the squad were none to happy about the deal.
Still think he could be anything, but sounds like he is his own worst enemy.
 
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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Of course you are..Tubby I mean happy…Lay off the Krispy Kremes...

Medical issue unfortunately , I don't sweat out enough salt so it literally compounds itself , muscle cramps like you wouldn't believe …when I'm posting at 2.00 and 3.00 am its probably because I've just spent the last 1/2 hour walking a leg cramp out

Want some of TT's cement… :frowning: 😢 😢

No …all good .....been dealing with it for all my life now ..... it actually got discovered through bed wetting of all things , I have to drink at times 8-10 litres of fluids every day to try and counter all the issues it causes , probably been in hospital at least a dozen times with side effects

The salt build up actually increases my body temp :brick: , its very frustrating at times , lack of sleep being the big one

Magnesium Happy, it's great for combating cramps. I use an oil spray that I picked up from Alstonville on my calf muscles regularly- stops em dead in their tracks! FYI it's called Byron Bay Healthy Salt Co Pure Magnesium Oil Spray. I'm sure you can pick it up at any health store.
 
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Medical issue unfortunately , I don't sweat out enough salt so it literally compounds itself , muscle cramps like you wouldn't believe …when I'm posting at 2.00 and 3.00 am its probably because I've just spent the last 1/2 hour walking a leg cramp out

Want some of TT's cement… :frowning: 😢 😢

No …all good .....been dealing with it for all my life now ..... it actually got discovered through bed wetting of all things , I have to drink at times 8-10 litres of fluids every day to try and counter all the issues it causes , probably been in hospital at least a dozen times with side effects

The salt build up actually increases my body temp :brick: , its very frustrating at times , lack of sleep being the big one

Magnesium Happy, it's great for combating cramps. I use an oil spray that I picked up from Alstonville on my calf muscles regularly- stops em dead in their tracks! FYI it's called Byron Bay Healthy Salt Co Pure Magnesium Oil Spray. I'm sure you can pick it up at any health store.

Spud..they still use Leaches in Gladstone mate…
 
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I rate Suli's ability highly but I think we've dodged a bullet.

This is where the NRL should appoint mentoring officers to assist players who potentially have a great career ahead of them but are in danger of going off the rails due to poor discipline and work ethic. Hasler, Junior Pearce and Greg Florimo were three players who come to mind who relied upon discipline and a great work ethic to succeed. Suli could do with mentoring from one of these former players.

Coaches are supposed to do exactly that. If he's not going to listen to Ivan Cleary when taken aside one on one, then either Cleary's a hopeless coach or this kid's just not teachable. May not be a lot of purpose bringing in a counsellor to repeat what the coach already told them.
 
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Want some of TT's cement… :frowning: 😢 😢

No …all good .....been dealing with it for all my life now ..... it actually got discovered through bed wetting of all things , I have to drink at times 8-10 litres of fluids every day to try and counter all the issues it causes , probably been in hospital at least a dozen times with side effects

The salt build up actually increases my body temp :brick: , its very frustrating at times , lack of sleep being the big one

Magnesium Happy, it's great for combating cramps. I use an oil spray that I picked up from Alstonville on my calf muscles regularly- stops em dead in their tracks! FYI it's called Byron Bay Healthy Salt Co Pure Magnesium Oil Spray. I'm sure you can pick it up at any health store.

Spud..they still use Leaches in Gladstone mate…

Leaches = New South Welshmen

Magnesium actually makes them worse Spud for some reason

Diet Lime juice mixed in small amounts with water helps a bit , unfortunately living where we do doesn't help very much , high humidity is probably the biggest problem

That issue might change very shortly , but not for the right reasons 😢
 
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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Of course you are..Tubby I mean happy…Lay off the Krispy Kremes...

Medical issue unfortunately , I don't sweat out enough salt so it literally compounds itself , muscle cramps like you wouldn't believe …when I'm posting at 2.00 and 3.00 am its probably because I've just spent the last 1/2 hour walking a leg cramp out

Want some of TT's cement… :frowning: 😢 😢

No …all good .....been dealing with it for all my life now ..... it actually got discovered through bed wetting of all things , I have to drink at times 8-10 litres of fluids every day to try and counter all the issues it causes , probably been in hospital at least a dozen times with side effects

The salt build up actually increases my body temp :brick: , its very frustrating at times , lack of sleep being the big one

Try Tonic water for cramping. Greatly helps
 
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Tigers got this one right.

Bulldogs appear silly.

Iam sure the Dogs would have put some special clauses in his contract. Also coming down hard on him early might be the way to go rather than the softly softly approach. Be interesting to see where he is in 12 months time

Country RL
 
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Hate to say i told you so.

How dumb are the Bulldogs though?
Money to waste it seems.

I'm in the same boat as you mate…..I wasn't a fan of his signing one iota. Yes the guy has talent but he was a Taylor signing so we'll say no more.
 
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He's not spending 400k @ the Gucci store and on LV satchels. He's taken good care of his (extended) family and his mother. The fact that he hasn't woken up for training and has disciplinary issues has nothing to do with his salary. He's 19 years of age - knock it off.

I'd say his bloated salary has a hell of a lot to do with his lazy attitude. He would wise up quick-smart if he was on minimum wage with the distinct possibility of finding himself unemployed. Excuses are great though don't get me wrong.
So what exactly is the reason for his indifferent attitude if it isn't because of his exorbitant contract?
Big deal that he is 19 years of age, that's no excuse, there are plenty of blokes his age busting their guts in the NRL and everyday life without falling back on their age as a cop-out that is for sure. Eisenhuth is a great example of a young fella with commitment instead of poor attitude.

I don't think you can blame the salary. There are plenty of young guys on good NRL contracts who work bloody hard, and plenty of total dumbarses bludging away on next to nothing. Personally I strongly suspect lazy rich people would be lazy poor people under different circumstances.
 
The rest of the squad were happy when he signed. You want to play with good players and you don't want to see your club losing their best young players to other clubs. He had had a very strong off season and impressed the squad and coaches enough to come from nowhere to get a first grade spot.

Of course some journeymen on low pay, espeically in the same position, may get miffed that some teenager can come from nowhere and earn 4 times as much as they do despite them being more experienced and proven
 
I didn’t see anyone complaining when he was named ahead of Rankin last year. There’s a million legitimate reasons people have to bag Taylor. You don’t need to make up reasons.
 
New article stating bulldogs denying disciplinary action and plan to move Moses Suli closer to Belmore. Currently lives at Fairfield.
 
I think its more an example of where Jason Taylor got it wrong rather than something that is Taylors fault. He talked club culture but failed to really understand it .

Going all in on Moses Suli while talented and full of potential was not a good use of salary cap if the number one priority you yourself identified was club culture.

A Cooper Cronk wasnt going to fall from the sky and magically change the culture, you had to go and actively recruit it and prioritise it in your salary cap.
 

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