Moses Suli
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Why Moses Suli was cut by the Wests Tigers
The Wests Tigers know they could one day rue the decision to release Moses Suli, but the club didn’t want to jeopardise the culture being developed under coach Ivan Cleary.
The decision by the Tigers to release Suli to the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs on Wednesday didn’t happen overnight. It’s been six months in the making.
Based on talent alone, many will question how the Wests Tigers could justify parting ways with the teenage prodigy.
But this wasn’t a decision based on talent. According to the Tigers, it was a decision based on the player's attitude. It was a decision based on a lack of regard for the selflessness and standards the team is trying to create.
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Since Suli suffered a season-ending ankle injury just 16 games into his rookie year, the club believed his motivation wavered.
Cleary and football manager Kelly Egan had several conversations with the teenager, trying to understand why he didn't appear interested in capitalising on his talent.
Club officials visited his family home. They spoke to his mother. They spoke to his brother. They offered to support him in a new environment away from the comfort of the family home.
They spoke with the Rugby League Players' Association and held several meetings with his manager, Mario Tartak.
The Tigers believe they did everything possible to avoid the events that have now unfolded.
He has put on almost 15 kilograms from last season and the coaching staff grew tired of not getting the same output that the rest of his teammates were contributing.
On one occasion, Suli arrived at training after being picked up by a teammate for a 7am session, only to enter the club’s Concord headquarters at 10am having slept for three hours in the car.
Some wanted him gone before Christmas. Others wanted the club to persevere with him in the hope they could find the trigger that would ignite his career.
However, it never came.
The Bulldogs have been aware of the Tigers’ frustration for some time. Their recruitment manager Warren McDonnell, when he was at the Wests Tigers, discovered Suli.
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He’s a big reason why Suli chose to join the Bulldogs in a revamped backline headlined by the shift of Moses Mbye to fullback.
The Dogs are hopeful a change of scenery will bring out the best in him.
They know they have signed a player capable of special things, and they will hope he can fulfil his enormous potential.
Why Moses Suli was cut by the Wests Tigers
The Wests Tigers know they could one day rue the decision to release Moses Suli, but the club didn’t want to jeopardise the culture being developed under coach Ivan Cleary.
The decision by the Tigers to release Suli to the Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs on Wednesday didn’t happen overnight. It’s been six months in the making.
Based on talent alone, many will question how the Wests Tigers could justify parting ways with the teenage prodigy.
But this wasn’t a decision based on talent. According to the Tigers, it was a decision based on the player's attitude. It was a decision based on a lack of regard for the selflessness and standards the team is trying to create.
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Since Suli suffered a season-ending ankle injury just 16 games into his rookie year, the club believed his motivation wavered.
Cleary and football manager Kelly Egan had several conversations with the teenager, trying to understand why he didn't appear interested in capitalising on his talent.
Club officials visited his family home. They spoke to his mother. They spoke to his brother. They offered to support him in a new environment away from the comfort of the family home.
They spoke with the Rugby League Players' Association and held several meetings with his manager, Mario Tartak.
The Tigers believe they did everything possible to avoid the events that have now unfolded.
He has put on almost 15 kilograms from last season and the coaching staff grew tired of not getting the same output that the rest of his teammates were contributing.
On one occasion, Suli arrived at training after being picked up by a teammate for a 7am session, only to enter the club’s Concord headquarters at 10am having slept for three hours in the car.
Some wanted him gone before Christmas. Others wanted the club to persevere with him in the hope they could find the trigger that would ignite his career.
However, it never came.
The Bulldogs have been aware of the Tigers’ frustration for some time. Their recruitment manager Warren McDonnell, when he was at the Wests Tigers, discovered Suli.
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He’s a big reason why Suli chose to join the Bulldogs in a revamped backline headlined by the shift of Moses Mbye to fullback.
The Dogs are hopeful a change of scenery will bring out the best in him.
They know they have signed a player capable of special things, and they will hope he can fulfil his enormous potential.
I see Marsters is now the flavour well tbh had him there from the start of the year based on his performances in the later half of 2017 anyway…and Suli's injury concerns
Disappointed to lose an obvious talent in Suli but with reports coming out re training and application to rehab at least it shows the Club can make a call
Disappointed to lose an obvious talent in Suli but with reports coming out re training and application to rehab at least it shows the Club can make a call
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lclarke
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Why would the Tigers leak it. Fat, lazy and stress fractures. Who would want him ?
TSupps05
Well-known member
I guess if either Korobite or Rona aren't happy we could splash the cash
Masterton
Well-known member
chance he never reaches his potential because he's lazy - 14%
chance he never reaches his potential because of his ankles - 10%
chance the bloke just ate a lot of KFC to get out of a contract - 5%
I'd be really disappointed if I wasn't already considering the chance he was another Tuiaki.
chance he never reaches his potential because of his ankles - 10%
chance the bloke just ate a lot of KFC to get out of a contract - 5%
I'd be really disappointed if I wasn't already considering the chance he was another Tuiaki.
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lclarke
Guest
The ankles, weight and attitude are just some of his problems. The many stress fractures that put him out in U20’s for the season were in his back and have reportedly resurfaced again.
Tiger_Steve
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Well done Tigers! If you make a stand you must stand by it. Sets a standard! Let the Bulldogs have him - in the words of Seinfeld’s soup nazi: NEXT!!!!!!!
Pleased to see the tigers make the call.
No more “boys club”, no more excuses.
Well done
No more “boys club”, no more excuses.
Well done
Masterton
Well-known member
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Not having a go at the mighty Tui. I was just thinking maybe Suli's ankles were really shot. Of course, now I know there may have been other factors at play.
upthetigers
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Marsters is a weapon.
The-moP
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So we signed the 18 year old to 3 year contract … for $1.2 mil .. !!! We get to get that money now and go shopping else where ... but where and who ??
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newtiger
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Sounds like he ate a Tonne of KFC.
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newtiger
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He ate the Beans!!!!
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I applaud Cleary and the club for releasing him no matter how much talent he has.If reports of his attitude and soaring weight is true then he is exactly the sort of player we DONT need or want at the club.
The club is far more important than any player and Cleary definately seems to be building the right character for us supporters to be happy with
The club is far more important than any player and Cleary definately seems to be building the right character for us supporters to be happy with
Harvey
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Didn't anyone do due diligence on his attitude before signing him up to a multi year million dollar contract?
Or did he just give up once the money started rolling in?
So now Marsters is the great hope. He is off contract at the end of this year, given what we paid Suli, how much will his management be asking if he has a half decent season.
Or did he just give up once the money started rolling in?
So now Marsters is the great hope. He is off contract at the end of this year, given what we paid Suli, how much will his management be asking if he has a half decent season.
