Moving WT to Campbelltown

@Boonboon2 said:
Why would you play 6 in Campbelltown and 6 at ANZ when you could play 12 at ANZ. Neither Campbeltown or Leichardt are viable IMO and we should move all games to ANZ. A for training facilities they should be wherever is best after a full assessment of all the pros and cons which includes attracting players being a big con for campbelltown but a pros being the extra engagement with the region. However if Campbelltown had world class facilties then perhaps that would be a good choice at the moment it doesen't while other options may. Also better facilities may be closer to the home of both owners in Ashfield and Balmain
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Leichhardt and Campbelltown are completely different.One is old and outdated and is in an area where your average league person has been replaced by a greenie tree hugger.Campbelltown is a young working class area that is currently under a massive influx of people moving to it and its surrounding areas re Camden,Narellan etc.The Campbelltown Stadium is much newer(recently renovated)and is right next to a train station and major freeways(aswell as a leagues club which brings money to the JV).There is absolutely no doubt as we look thru the annals of history Leichhardt was much more spiritual than Campbelltown.Simple reason it hosted first grade since 1934(Wests beat Balmain on anzac day in first ever game there.FACT)and saw ten premiership teams before Campbelltown even was thought of to host league.No offence to Wests Fans but all neutral fans will tell you Leichhardt for this very reason has sooo much more history.But thats what it now is.History(the past)and as we look forwards to the future of this club there can be no denying that the perfect mix from about 2018 onwards is 6 ANZ and 6 Campbelltown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leichhardt_Oval
 
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@tigerbalm said:
Melbourne is 12 hour drive to bondi..how do the storm keep the big 3? St kilda beach is ok I guess.

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Wow probably the state of the art training facilities and the best of coaches strength and conditioners .
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Thanks chief.

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Tigers need to take advantage of the growth in the macarthur area…..I'd say setting up a training base in the oran park region would be fantastic if budget permitted

I hear that a lot of people are concerned about attracting players to west syd...I have 2 points in this
1.build it and they will come(Penrith model)-attracted a host of players(idris,whare,Soward,Wallace,Manu Taylor, segeyaro, peachey) due to their impressive plan and improvements...very close to snaring Thurston too
2.development club- tigers have stated many times that we are a development club...our aim isn't to buy superstars it is to build them.

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Tigers need to take advantage of the growth in the macarthur area…..I'd say setting up a training base in the oran park region would be fantastic if budget permitted

I hear that a lot of people are concerned about attracting players to west syd...I have 2 points in this
1.build it and they will come(Penrith model)-attracted a host of players(idris,whare,Soward,Wallace,Manu Taylor, segeyaro, peachey) due to their impressive plan and improvements...very close to snaring Thurston too
2.development club- tigers have stated many times that we are a development club...our aim isn't to buy superstars it is to build them.

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@walterwhite said:
Tigers need to take advantage of the growth in the macarthur area…..I'd say setting up a training base in the oran park region would be fantastic if budget permitted

I hear that a lot of people are concerned about attracting players to west syd...I have 2 points in this
1.build it and they will come(Penrith model)-attracted a host of players(idris,whare,Soward,Wallace,Manu Taylor, segeyaro, peachey) due to their impressive plan and improvements...very close to snaring Thurston too
2.development club- tigers have stated many times that we are a development club...our aim isn't to buy superstars it is to build them.

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You raise two good points but heres my take.Despite having great seasons none of these players were considered top shelf goods when signed(idris was having major issues off the field) it was just thru expert coaching and set up that they were able to what they achieved this year.Its all well and good being a development club but if your juniors are struggling at times you will always need to look abroad at times to sign/recruit players.Fittlers and Haynes dont come thru the junior ranks every year.
 
I think at this point moving to Campbelltown full time is a mistake.

At this point there is not a big enough corporate market to support a fulltime NRL side efficiently.

We for a number of reasons have a very geographically diverse fan base, Macarthur can be no way seen as central for this fan base.

Despite all the talk of the huge junior nursery in the south west (which it is) this is a fair way down the totem pole in terms of success. Currently we have a very good junior pathway system which includes the south west, along with the balmain system (which is punching above it's sze currently) and the Keebra Park boys, moving fulltime to campbelltown will not improve our pathways in anyway (nor will it hurt them mind you)
 
Goose,appreciate your thoughts,however we understand that the move completely to Campbelltown wouldn't be really viable,having said that the thread at first really spoke about the WTs using Campbelltown as a training facility because of the poor state of Concorde….cheers...
 
@Goose said:
I think at this point moving to Campbelltown full time is a mistake.

At this point there is not a big enough corporate market to support a fulltime NRL side efficiently.

We for a number of reasons have a very geographically diverse fan base, Macarthur can be no way seen as central for this fan base.

Despite all the talk of the huge junior nursery in the south west (which it is) this is a fair way down the totem pole in terms of success. Currently we have a very good junior pathway system which includes the south west, along with the balmain system (which is punching above it's sze currently) and the Keebra Park boys, moving fulltime to campbelltown will not improve our pathways in anyway (nor will it hurt them mind you)
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I agree goose re not moving to Campbelltown fulltime and the Balmain system punching above its weight With respect to Keebra Park I dont know why they dont relocate this program to StGregorys Campbelltown OR Holy Cross Ryde so they can get them playing with the local boys and get introduced to them at a younger age forging bonds and friendships etc and so they can play for Wests OR Balmain SG Ball.Wests tigers to Stay Based in the inner west But 6 ANZ and 6 Campbelltown is the future.
 
The Keebra school is a wonderful program with the Greg Lenton being an outstanding judge of raw talent. IMO the best. He is very good in seeing something in players that others miss, that program is what we invest in, not the players, although we do so by providing scholarships (i dont know the details exactly)
We also send some kids on scholarship to gregs and holy cross I believe, I think it is good to get a diverse range of player funnels.
 
@Jerry,very valid points you have made,also I would like to add that the whole area ie.Campbelltown region,Narrellan,Camden and even down to the Southern Highlands is getting bigger and bigger,the fan base could be huge and developement of the juniors ranks is growing,St Gregs has been a strong league breeding ground and could possibly produce valuable NRL kids of the future….I don't want to say to much as I don't want an argument re.them v us type scenario,because this has absolutely nothing to do with that only expanding fan and player bases..

As I have said before myself and the family travel from the Highlands regularly to watch the Tigers play at CSS and it is a great place to go...

However there will be others that don't agree,that's up to them,I haven't critised or laughed at your post and just want to add my thoughts from a different angle than others

Ideas and suggestions put together come up with good solutions.....
 
@Goose said:
The Keebra school is a wonderful program with the Greg Lenton being an outstanding judge of raw talent. IMO the best. He is very good in seeing something in players that others miss, that program is what we invest in, not the players, although we do so by providing scholarships (i dont know the details exactly)
We also send some kids on scholarship to gregs and holy cross I believe, I think it is good to get a diverse range of player funnels.
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If we merged all these "funnels" together we would have the added benefit of players playing together and building combos and friendships which would prove more successful in tying them up to the Wests Tigers.Bring Greg Lenton down to Sydney and forego all the other costs involved with the Gold Coast(keebra park).Im sure these kids theyre bringing over from New Zealand would have far more family/friends in Sydney than the Gold Coast aswell to help them feel welcome.Would save us a lot of money which we could reinvest into S and C too.
 
@TrueTiger said:
@Jerry,very valid points you have made,also I would like to add that the whole area ie.Campbelltown region,Narrellan,Camden and even down to the Southern Highlands is getting bigger and bigger,the fan base could be huge and developement of the juniors ranks is growing,St Gregs has been a strong league breeding ground and could possibly produce valuable NRL kids of the future….I don't want to say to much as I don't want an argument re.them v us type scenario,because this has absolutely nothing to do with that only expanding fan and player bases..

As I have said before myself and the family travel from the Highlands regularly to watch the Tigers play at CSS and it is a great place to go...

However there will be others that don't agree,that's up to them,I haven't critised or laughed at your post and just want to add my thoughts from a different angle than others

Ideas and suggestions put together come up with good solutions.....
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All good True Tiger,like you I can see the vast potential that lies in the Macarthur and Highlands area hence my reason for the 6 ANZ 6 Campbelltown.See gameday should be about the fans (hence 6 and 6)but training(base)should be all about the players as they have to commute daily hence the inner west vibe for the base.
 
@Jerry,thank you and I do agree re..players need a training base closer to inner city,but can really see the potential for a larger fan base in the future if Mayer and co.can market us well enough for an expansion further in the future,the growth factor could be enormous as far as fan base goes….cheers Jerry... :smiley: :sign: 😛ray:
 
While I accept that the Macarthur region has the potential to grow as a fan base, I have to disagree with this notion that the inner west is full of Greenies who don't support Rugby League. The inner west is full of young families. The schools and childcare centres are bursting at the seams. I work with families in the region and have done so for many years, and being a Wests Tigers supporter the subject comes up regularly. NRL support is alive and well The Benji Marshall influence was massive - many parents telling me they follow one team but because of the locality and Benji their children follow the Tigers. The club has done a lot of work promoting the game throughout the region, and to focus on one region at the expense of another in my view would be crazy. The inner west covers a lot more area than the Balmain peninsular and is highly populated with families who support rugby league and I cant see that changing any time soon.
 
@Telltails said:
While I accept that the Macarthur region has the potential to grow as a fan base, I have to disagree with this notion that the inner west is full of Greenies who don't support Rugby League. The inner west is full of young families. The schools and childcare centres are bursting at the seams. I work with families in the region and have done so for many years, and being a Wests Tigers supporter the subject comes up regularly. NRL support is alive and well The Benji Marshall influence was massive - many parents telling me they follow one team but because of the locality and Benji their children follow the Tigers. The club has done a lot of work promoting the game throughout the region, and to focus on one region at the expense of another in my view would be crazy. The inner west covers a lot more area than the Balmain peninsular and is highly populated with families who support rugby league and I cant see that changing any time soon.
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The inner west covers a lot more than the Balmain peninsular.Correct such as The suburbs that surround Homebush.Areas such as Ashfield,Strathfield,Ryde,West Ryde,Top Ryde and Macquarie park,Canada bay,Burwood,Croydon and Concord all of which are closer to Homebush than Leichhardt.There certainly is a massive level of support for the Wests Tigers in the inner west and it remains just as strong if not stronger if it relocates to homebush(future growth in these areas minus Leichhardt.Neglect Macarthur and you lose 30-40%of the fanbase(a lot of ex magpies are still inner west also) which would probably grow to 50-60% in the next 10-25 years.Benji was massive for this club but hes no longer here we need to be firing off the field so Brooksy and Moses etc can become our next benjis on it.
 
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