@Cosimo_Zaretti said:
Yeah but what's the deal with completely missing your man altogether and charging through the attacking line like you've picked up the intercept. It's woeful.
Naiqama Defending
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Yeah but what's the deal with completely missing your man altogether and charging through the attacking line like you've picked up the intercept. It's woeful.
Joel Helmes
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Are there any stats available on how many tries we have conceded on their side?
stevetiger
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@jadtiger said:
He does a lot right but he he makes a lot of misreads defensively.
tigerman80
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I couldnt agree more, we Are teaching Sironen to get better in Nsw cup, yet our worst player by far Naiqama survives. Can you imagine how funny opposition teams find it when they do video of our right side, and then thats their game plan. im over it
Tigertigertiger
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Every team will go down his side now and score 8/10 times
I like Kev but please work on defence
I like Kev but please work on defence
851
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@tigermac88 said:
This is all on the coach, he has had since October 2014 to fix this, he hasn't or can't, so then the next move is to drop him, he hasn't done this either. :bash
The commentators are even aware of how bad Kev is reading the play and defending, you hear them all the time, last week during the game the commentator on FOX described Kev's defence as laughable, yet super coach can't see it.
I can't fathom whom is happy with him rushing off the line. It does not work and yet he persists.
tig_prmz
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im not 100% sure if it's naiqamas fault but it has to be someone's fault. we simply can't count. i've seen replays of almost every try down that side and most of the time it's a 5 on 4 situation.
the only try not involving naiqama was against the knights when halatau, moses, MCK and noffa were defending together. again, it was a simple 5 on 4 situation and gagai had the biggest gap in the world between halatau and moses.
the only try not involving naiqama was against the knights when halatau, moses, MCK and noffa were defending together. again, it was a simple 5 on 4 situation and gagai had the biggest gap in the world between halatau and moses.
tig_prmz
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@Cultured Bogan said:
because they're short on that side 9/10 times. it's always a 3 on 2 or a 2 on 1 situation and he has no choice but to run out of the line and jam the guy he thinks is gonna get the ball or go for the intercept. it's a stupid thing to do.. the inside men are not scrambling. naiqama as a center should be the one calling the shots and he isn't doing that.
Everyone has said the same thing, his defence is very poor.
The issue runs deeper than poor reads.
If you read wrong but keep systems (both up and in or both passive slide or whatever) then generally you contain it anyway or at least make the opposition do something difficult to beat the line.
Noffa and Kev break system all the time, sometimes with no pressure on at all, they dont communicate well and definitely dont work together. It is probably both their faults. It is like watching junior rep footy where they are all trying to work systems for the first time.
The issue runs deeper than poor reads.
If you read wrong but keep systems (both up and in or both passive slide or whatever) then generally you contain it anyway or at least make the opposition do something difficult to beat the line.
Noffa and Kev break system all the time, sometimes with no pressure on at all, they dont communicate well and definitely dont work together. It is probably both their faults. It is like watching junior rep footy where they are all trying to work systems for the first time.
@tig_prmz said:
But he almost never pulls it off. May as well put a bollard there, it least if they run into it, it'll stop them.
Its quite simple really Naiqama and Dropaluma need to go back to reserve grade.
We have capable replacements in MCK (who is the better player in my view) and also Rankin whilst, not a world beater in attack defensively is serviceable. I would work with Nofa but for mine Naiqama is not first grade quality with his defence.
We have capable replacements in MCK (who is the better player in my view) and also Rankin whilst, not a world beater in attack defensively is serviceable. I would work with Nofa but for mine Naiqama is not first grade quality with his defence.
i think moses is honestly one of the worst culprits, old mate on the breakdown (matt elliot) analysises defence and something he criticises and looks at all the time is forming a line.
so important, and we teach it to under 8s. MARK UP AND STAY IN FORMATION. obviously this is harder to do in the nrl, and even being half a step out of line will throw off our entire defence. for moses, this is amplified a million times because he is so small. sometimes i see him about to dart back in anticipation for a kick which is good in terms of effort and heart, but it can cause severe problems for us.
defence on the wings starts in the middle and relies on trusting your inside and communication from your inside. leaving aside an average pack, our right side will improve most if moses improves his defensive positioning and communication. and i think naiqama will be improve with him.
adding onto that, ive talked about it before. but our pack needs to be better. we need to buy a quality second rower like joseph paulo. our edge defence will also dramatically improve when our pack gets going.
so important, and we teach it to under 8s. MARK UP AND STAY IN FORMATION. obviously this is harder to do in the nrl, and even being half a step out of line will throw off our entire defence. for moses, this is amplified a million times because he is so small. sometimes i see him about to dart back in anticipation for a kick which is good in terms of effort and heart, but it can cause severe problems for us.
defence on the wings starts in the middle and relies on trusting your inside and communication from your inside. leaving aside an average pack, our right side will improve most if moses improves his defensive positioning and communication. and i think naiqama will be improve with him.
adding onto that, ive talked about it before. but our pack needs to be better. we need to buy a quality second rower like joseph paulo. our edge defence will also dramatically improve when our pack gets going.
Chadman_s_Ghost
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@pHyR3 said:
I'd almost agree with everything you said…. until, like last week, I see Kev run directly between 2 attackers, take nobody & create a 3 on 1 for Nofa.
His reads in defence are awful, regardless of who is inside him. And it makes Nofa equally as bad as a result.
Chadman_s_Ghost
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For mine, he's a winger who CAN play center. But it's not his best spot. With JAC moving on, I'd be looking at moving him back to the wing & shifting Rankin inside or playing Chee Kam. Both read the attack better, and won't expose the winger as often.
Yes, Kevin isn't great under the high ball. But he isn't the lone ranger there. But, he runs out of dummy half well & is a good finisher.
Yes, Kevin isn't great under the high ball. But he isn't the lone ranger there. But, he runs out of dummy half well & is a good finisher.
@Chadman's Ghost said:
so what youre saying is it was already a 3 on 2 before naiqama made a last ditch attempt to solve it?
im not a naiqama lover by any stretch, if we can swap him out for a solid centre defensively then id be very happy. i just think that his deficiencies are severely compounded by errors made infield and a generally poor pack.
DonnyBrasco
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@Chadman's Ghost said:
I thought wingers are generally meant to be fast
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