Nathan Cleary
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Masterton
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Even if Nathan is no chance of coming to us, it's probably driving his price up nicely.
voice_of_reason
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I think a quality player could look at that scenario and believe they may be instrumental in reversing it. IF Nathan was to leave the Panthers they'd almost certainly suffer and if he came here we'd almost certainly improve. But as someone said earlier, it's a long way off and probably best for discussion next off-season :slight_smile:
greatodensraven
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How about this option?
6\. Brooks
7\. Cleary
9\. Liddle
14\. Reynolds
6\. Brooks
7\. Cleary
9\. Liddle
14\. Reynolds
I'm seeing double….fixed..
LeichhardtTiger
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What a lovely culture Phil Gould has nurtured at Penrith. Cartwright's girl gets pregnant but that's OK cos in comes the fixit man Zac O with the chequebook and the unprounounceble surname so that investigations would be difficult to nail the perp. Sadly & tragically she did not cope with the Penrith Cultural attache approach and suicide followed. The fact that this sad & sordid affair did not get major MSM attention goes to show the cover up power of the Penrith Culture. Crikey - imagine if this happened to the Tigers! But it's not surprising that a short time later, after signing a 5 year deal, wunderkind Moylan gets itchy feet. And now he's gone. And if I were a Dad of a gun half back I wouldn't want my kid hanging around a club that hired blokes called Bryce or Zac cos they aren't worth it! There is a reason Ivan Cleary talks so much about culture at the Tigers - cos he actually believes in one. That's why he would never go to the Rorters cos they only know one way and that is the sports bag full of cash and cocaine or eccies! All Hail Ivan. A decent Man!
goldcoast_tiger
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You may be right Bob,
Ivan may be better off without the constant references in public about Nathan's next contract. I'm sure that if there is a serious chance of him coming here, most of those discussions will be conducted at home, and not in public.
I'd love to see him here. But I'd like to see Ivan concentrating on the players that we already have here now . They're the ones that we have to go with at the moment.
There's been a few references about Ivan being happy to Coach Nathan lately, and while thats fine if it happen, if it continues , it may be taken as as them using it as a chance to remind ALL other clubs that they could come as a double act.
There's no gaurantee that it would be here.
goldcoast_tiger
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So, you reckon that Ivan would never Coach at the Roosters, Oh , well that's good then.
That's one club that we won't have to worry about if turns out that he goes well here,
I was worried about that possibility . :unamused:
BodhiTiger
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**Date:** November 2018
2018 NRL Table Completion:
**Wests Tigers:** Scrap into the 8, knocked out first play off.
**Penrith Panthers:** Finish 13th. (Nathan played his best year yet, in-spite of the ladder position)
**Gus:** G’day Ivan, mate I would like to catch up for a coffee you available anytime this week?
**Ivan**: Hi Gus, long time no talk. Yeah, I could make a coffee, what’s the occasion?
**Gus:** Just wanted to go over a few things you might be interested in.
**Ivan:** ok mate, let’s do it.
**Meeting:**
**Ivan:** Hey mate what’s happening?
**Gus:** Look, I’m gunna lay it all out there, getting rid of you was the biggest mistake of my career. As you know your boy is a super star and I have realised that without YOU we aren’t going to keep him regardless of the money offered. So, I thought I would explore other avenues to get Nathan to stay a Panther, we have built the team around him and need him with us going into the future.
**Ivan:** I assume you are referring to the write up in the press about me and Nathan being in the same team moving forward?
**Gus:** Exactly.
**Ivan:** So, what exactly have you brought me here for?
**Gus:** Well, As Nathans contract expires next year and yours the year after, I would like to offer you an opportunity to come back to the Panthers on a 4 year contract with the proviso that Nathan signs for the same amount of time. The current coach is taking us backwards and I have seen what you have done at the Tigers and it has shown me just how big a mistake getting rid of you was. I know you must have been peed off with how things ended but this is me making things right and giving you an opportunity to coach Nathan in a winning team. See out your contract at the Tigers and You have a gentleman's agreement with Nathans Signature you will be running the Panthers in 2021.
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2018 NRL Table Completion:
**Wests Tigers:** Scrap into the 8, knocked out first play off.
**Penrith Panthers:** Finish 13th. (Nathan played his best year yet, in-spite of the ladder position)
**Gus:** G’day Ivan, mate I would like to catch up for a coffee you available anytime this week?
**Ivan**: Hi Gus, long time no talk. Yeah, I could make a coffee, what’s the occasion?
**Gus:** Just wanted to go over a few things you might be interested in.
**Ivan:** ok mate, let’s do it.
**Meeting:**
**Ivan:** Hey mate what’s happening?
**Gus:** Look, I’m gunna lay it all out there, getting rid of you was the biggest mistake of my career. As you know your boy is a super star and I have realised that without YOU we aren’t going to keep him regardless of the money offered. So, I thought I would explore other avenues to get Nathan to stay a Panther, we have built the team around him and need him with us going into the future.
**Ivan:** I assume you are referring to the write up in the press about me and Nathan being in the same team moving forward?
**Gus:** Exactly.
**Ivan:** So, what exactly have you brought me here for?
**Gus:** Well, As Nathans contract expires next year and yours the year after, I would like to offer you an opportunity to come back to the Panthers on a 4 year contract with the proviso that Nathan signs for the same amount of time. The current coach is taking us backwards and I have seen what you have done at the Tigers and it has shown me just how big a mistake getting rid of you was. I know you must have been peed off with how things ended but this is me making things right and giving you an opportunity to coach Nathan in a winning team. See out your contract at the Tigers and You have a gentleman's agreement with Nathans Signature you will be running the Panthers in 2021.
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Donald_Trump
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You have too much free time
Spud_Murphy
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Makes me laugh this bloke trumpeting Penrith as a 'successful' club and labeling us as bottom 4\. We're talking Penrith here, not bloody Melbourne! They've been up and down like a bride's nightie for over a decade now, have never reached their 'potential' and their last Premiership is even further back than ours! Height of arrogance….and delusion!
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No it's not Moses Ivan Cleary choose his son's manager there is an interview about 6 months ago mite have been on triple M and he talks about good and bad player managers and the bad ones don't look after there client just self interest it mite have been Hooper doing most of the interview and was talking about one manager who had two clients going to one club and lied to one of his clients that going to that club was the most money he was going to get but another club made a better offer but it was in the managers but interest two get both to that club so he could make more money as a package
mightymagpie
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Ivan: Thanks for the coffee mate. Unfortunately I just signed an extension with the Tigers for a further 3 seasons just yesterday afternoon. And Nathan will be joining me when his contract expires with Penrith. He’s already agreed to terms but I’ll let him fill you in on those details.
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Whether of not Nathan signs with the Tigers Gould is dealing with smart people here…not boys and greedy player managers looking after there own retirement fund by tying up young men to 5 yr contracts.
Ivan Cleary has Gould’s measure be sure of that only a fool would sign for that period when so young and still on the up and I do not think the Clearys are fools unfortunately for Gould .
goldcoast_tiger
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You could use that post and simply change the name of the club and club official, three or four times and it could be fairly close to the truth.
If you read the article with Brian Fletcher he admits Ivan’s relationship will be hard to beat. Even states any contract dor Nathan is being negotiated with Ivan and the manager.
He makes a good point does Nathan want to play for a club challenging for a premiership or bottom 4.
That will determine the outcome if Ivan can get WT around the top 8 he would be mad not to get his son over. If not there’s no way he brings his son in to play for a battling club.
Griffin is hated at Penrith and it’s Gould’s big mistake if he is wedded to him I think it’s a forgone conclusion.
The Fletcher comments are dumb to the extreme why take a shot at WT and Cleary when he is involved in his sons decisions.
He makes a good point does Nathan want to play for a club challenging for a premiership or bottom 4.
That will determine the outcome if Ivan can get WT around the top 8 he would be mad not to get his son over. If not there’s no way he brings his son in to play for a battling club.
Griffin is hated at Penrith and it’s Gould’s big mistake if he is wedded to him I think it’s a forgone conclusion.
The Fletcher comments are dumb to the extreme why take a shot at WT and Cleary when he is involved in his sons decisions.
Pawsandclaws
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Looking through the junior rep teams Twal, Liddle and Cleary played together in the NSW U20s team.
goldcoast_tiger
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I agree that that is that could determine where they go. He,d be mad to ask him to come here if we aren't looking a hell of a lot better than we are now. I can't see any father dropping their son in it like that.
The interesting thing though, is that other clubs may not be as keen about a double act
If he can't get that improvement into us. .
I hope we aren't getting updates on the situation regularly next season,
The interesting thing though, is that other clubs may not be as keen about a double act
If he can't get that improvement into us. .
I hope we aren't getting updates on the situation regularly next season,
