National anthem

@jadtiger said in [National anthem](/post/1287583) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287578) said:
@hobbo1 said in [National anthem](/post/1287572) said:
@mike said in [National anthem](/post/1287567) said:
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Pretty sure the PM can.

Governor General signs off on it I think ?

There's another change that needs to be made.



Yes but unfortunately the people with little vision decided to vote for the monarchy because we arent to be trusted in getting it right

Another Malcom Turnbull fiasco.
 
@Geo said in [National anthem](/post/1287616) said:
@Earl said in [National anthem](/post/1287574) said:
@cktiger said in [National anthem](/post/1287562) said:
Good to see Mundine still isn’t happy.
He said it makes no difference as the song is all about white supremacy ....

Did he really say this. He isn't too smart is he.

On the contrary Earll..I think Mundine knows exactly what he is doing..

Interesting. I met him once. He was a nice enough guy. I think he fancied my wife but she is out of his league.

I don't think he is too smart. I don't think he has a clue what he is stating.
 
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.
 
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Yeah, because that is what I said. Talk about pot stirring lol
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Lol as if ACA viewership is a good representation of Australian views. May as well have been done on Sky news.
 
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287633) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Yeah, because that is what I said. Talk about pot stirring lol

Well I don't think the changes should be made to make the Aboriginal community happy.

The changes should be made to make the whole Nation happy - not just a section of it.

I also don't think the PM or any other lone individual (specifically the GG - representing the Queen, should have any say in it), should be able to change it without the Nations approval.

It was bad enough that Kerr sacked an elected PM (by the people) - without the Queen knowing I might add. Now he GG wants to meddle again.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287634) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Lol as if ACA viewership is a good representation of Australian views. May as well have been done on Sky news.

It is the only one we have at present, to represent the country - the Aboriginal community is hardly a representation of the whole Nation that Cochise is putting up as positive.
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287639) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287634) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Lol as if ACA viewership is a good representation of Australian views. May as well have been done on Sky news.

It is the only one we have at present, to represent the country - the Aboriginal community is hardly a representation of the whole Nation.

The ACA is not the best representation we have of the country. The show is ridiculous.
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287638) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287633) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Yeah, because that is what I said. Talk about pot stirring lol

Well I don't think the changes should be made to make the Aboriginal community happy.

The changes should be made to make the whole Nation happy - not just a section of it.

I also don't think the PM or any other lone individual (specifically the GG - representing the Queen, should have any say in it), should be able to change it without the Nations approval.

It was bad enough that Kerr sacked an elected PM (by the people) - without the Queen knowing I might add. Now he GG wants to meddle again.

It is the indigenous community that has an issue with the anthem as is, so I would think it would be important that any changes that are trying to rectify that have the support of that community. I was merely pointing out that the changes has support of some members of that community and when people like Freeman and Warren Mundine come out and support it then I tend to listen.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287640) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287639) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287634) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Lol as if ACA viewership is a good representation of Australian views. May as well have been done on Sky news.

It is the only one we have at present, to represent the country - the Aboriginal community is hardly a representation of the whole Nation.

The ACA is not the best representation we have of the country. The show is ridiculous.

No it is not BUT better than nothing.
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287639) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287634) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Lol as if ACA viewership is a good representation of Australian views. May as well have been done on Sky news.

It is the only one we have at present, to represent the country - the Aboriginal community is hardly a representation of the whole Nation that Cochise is putting up as positive.

What rubbish, where did I state that the indigenous community is a representation of the whole nation? You really do love a strawman don't you?
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287642) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287640) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287639) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287634) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Lol as if ACA viewership is a good representation of Australian views. May as well have been done on Sky news.

It is the only one we have at present, to represent the country - the Aboriginal community is hardly a representation of the whole Nation.

The ACA is not the best representation we have of the country. The show is ridiculous.

No it is not BUT better than nothing.

I think it’s worse than nothing tbh Russ. It’s trash.
 
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287641) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287638) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287633) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Yeah, because that is what I said. Talk about pot stirring lol

Well I don't think the changes should be made to make the Aboriginal community happy.

The changes should be made to make the whole Nation happy - not just a section of it.

I also don't think the PM or any other lone individual (specifically the GG - representing the Queen, should have any say in it), should be able to change it without the Nations approval.

It was bad enough that Kerr sacked an elected PM (by the people) - without the Queen knowing I might add. Now he GG wants to meddle again.

It is the indigenous community that has an issue with the anthem as is, so I would think it would be important that any changes that are trying to rectify that have the support of that community. I was merely pointing out that the changes has support of some members of that community and when people like Freeman and Warren Mundine come out and support it then I tend to listen.

It is good that SOME are supporting, some do not like the other Mundine. The Aboriginal community should be happy with any changes made as it is being done on their behalf - the changes should also be acceptable to the rest of the Nation as well.
 
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287643) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287639) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [National anthem](/post/1287634) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Lol as if ACA viewership is a good representation of Australian views. May as well have been done on Sky news.

It is the only one we have at present, to represent the country - the Aboriginal community is hardly a representation of the whole Nation that Cochise is putting up as positive.

What rubbish, where did I state that the indigenous community is a representation of the whole nation? You really do love a strawman don't you?

You didn't but by implication you are saying they are positive about it. You named two people as a positive - I think the ACA survey is more than 2.
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287645) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287641) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287638) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287633) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Yeah, because that is what I said. Talk about pot stirring lol

Well I don't think the changes should be made to make the Aboriginal community happy.

The changes should be made to make the whole Nation happy - not just a section of it.

I also don't think the PM or any other lone individual (specifically the GG - representing the Queen, should have any say in it), should be able to change it without the Nations approval.

It was bad enough that Kerr sacked an elected PM (by the people) - without the Queen knowing I might add. Now he GG wants to meddle again.

It is the indigenous community that has an issue with the anthem as is, so I would think it would be important that any changes that are trying to rectify that have the support of that community. I was merely pointing out that the changes has support of some members of that community and when people like Freeman and Warren Mundine come out and support it then I tend to listen.

The Aboriginal community should be happy with any changes made as it is being done on their behalf

Who are you to dictate what a group of people should be happy with? What a condescending attitude. It doesn't matter why the change was made if the change doesn't address the issues people were complaining about. It appears some people in the indigenous community feel the change addresses some of their issues.
 
Nothing you can or will do will make everyone happy

Basically they rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic

Maybe a new song altogether ...do it Eurovision style ...... song that gets the most votes is the new anthem
 
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287647) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287645) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287641) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287638) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287633) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287632) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287631) said:
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287630) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

On A Current Affair a short time ago.

66% Against the change - 34% for the change.

Not sure, don't think that is positive, but I don't want to be negative about it.

Now I guy in reply saying we need to look at verse 2 (people) and 3 (values).

So it will go on.

Not surprising from the viewership of ACA. The support I was talking about was from the indigenous community.

Oh! right, and the rest of the country doesn't count. Is that right?

Yeah, because that is what I said. Talk about pot stirring lol

Well I don't think the changes should be made to make the Aboriginal community happy.

The changes should be made to make the whole Nation happy - not just a section of it.

I also don't think the PM or any other lone individual (specifically the GG - representing the Queen, should have any say in it), should be able to change it without the Nations approval.

It was bad enough that Kerr sacked an elected PM (by the people) - without the Queen knowing I might add. Now he GG wants to meddle again.

It is the indigenous community that has an issue with the anthem as is, so I would think it would be important that any changes that are trying to rectify that have the support of that community. I was merely pointing out that the changes has support of some members of that community and when people like Freeman and Warren Mundine come out and support it then I tend to listen.

The Aboriginal community should be happy with any changes made as it is being done on their behalf

Who are you to dictate what a group of people should be happy with? What a condescending attitude. It doesn't matter why the change was made if the change doesn't address the issues people were complaining about. It appears some people in the indigenous community feel the change addresses some of their issues.

Where did I say "dictate what a group of people should be happy with"

I said as the following quote below:

"Well I don’t think the changes should be made to make the Aboriginal community happy.

The changes should be made to make the whole Nation happy - not just a section of it."

Don't put words in my posts thank you very much.

Condescending attitude, dictating - nice one Chief - I am sure you will say I am a racist next.

End of discussion.
 
@happy_tiger said in [National anthem](/post/1287648) said:
Nothing you can or will do will make everyone happy

Basically they rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic

Maybe a new song altogether ...do it Eurovision style ...... song that gets the most votes is the new anthem

Yeah that’s how you end up with things “Boaty McBoatface” as a name for an Research Ship. A popular vote is not the way to go.
 

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