National anthem

@cktiger said in [National anthem](/post/1287562) said:
Good to see Mundine still isn’t happy.
He said it makes no difference as the song is all about white supremacy ....

Some people just crave being offended. No doubt in ten years time the new word 'one' will be deemed offensive because they'll say it implies there is no diversity.
 
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people
 
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Pretty sure the PM can.
 
@mike said in [National anthem](/post/1287567) said:
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Pretty sure the PM can.

Governor General signs off on it I think ?
 
@cktiger said in [National anthem](/post/1287562) said:
Good to see Mundine still isn’t happy.
He said it makes no difference as the song is all about white supremacy ....

Did he really say this. He isn't too smart is he.
 
@hobbo1 said in [National anthem](/post/1287572) said:
@mike said in [National anthem](/post/1287567) said:
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Pretty sure the PM can.

Governor General signs off on it I think ?

Yep they do. Just like the PM changed the words from "Australian's sons let us rejoice" to "Australians all let us rejoice" in the 80s the current PM can change the words via the GG.
 
@cktiger said in [National anthem](/post/1287562) said:
Good to see Mundine still isn’t happy.
He said it makes no difference as the song is all about white supremacy ....


People who make a living out of being offended were always going to remain offended.
 
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Why is it insulting ? I tell you my problem with all of this stuff. You can't win. Aboriginals don't like it and even worse are the non-Indigenous Australians who take everything as an affront.

It's already changed and I think it's a good idea.

At some point Indigenous Australians need to realize that like all human beings they need to create good lives for themselves. I understand that they have copped it in multiple ways.

I feel exactly the same way about every broad social justice issue. Sure fix any specific detail that we can but don't let those details hold you back from leading a good life.
 
@hobbo1 said in [National anthem](/post/1287572) said:
@mike said in [National anthem](/post/1287567) said:
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Pretty sure the PM can.

Governor General signs off on it I think ?

There's another change that needs to be made.
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287578) said:
@hobbo1 said in [National anthem](/post/1287572) said:
@mike said in [National anthem](/post/1287567) said:
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Pretty sure the PM can.

Governor General signs off on it I think ?

There's another change that needs to be made.



Yes but unfortunately the people with little vision decided to vote for the monarchy because we arent to be trusted in getting it right
 
@Russell said in [National anthem](/post/1287578) said:
@hobbo1 said in [National anthem](/post/1287572) said:
@mike said in [National anthem](/post/1287567) said:
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Pretty sure the PM can.

Governor General signs off on it I think ?

There's another change that needs to be made.

I agree Russell .
It’s about time you got your Stars off my flag !

?
 
@Earl said in [National anthem](/post/1287577) said:
@balmain-boy said in [National anthem](/post/1287566) said:
The change is incredibly insulting. Absurd and should never happen. Pretty sure the pm can't just change the words because he wants to.

The only solution is a new anthem or at least a new verse added to the anthem. NZ and RSA have done this well. We look like a bunch of stuck up inbred white people

Why is it insulting ? I tell you my problem with all of this stuff. You can't win. Aboriginals don't like it and even worse are the non-Indigenous Australians who take everything as an affront.

It's already changed and I think it's a good idea.

At some point Indigenous Australians need to realize that like all human beings they need to create good lives for themselves. I understand that they have copped it in multiple ways.

I feel exactly the same way about every broad social justice issue. Sure fix any specific detail that we can but don't let those details hold you back from leading a good life.

Why is it insulting? Indigenous people having been saying for years they've an issue with the song. Essentially by changing one word the interpretation is hey we've changed a word now you should be happy. But really why would anyone against the anthem suddenly be happy because one word has changed. The issues go beyond one word within the song. It's insulting to them that they think it would appease them. Any changes to the current anthem will not do, only a change of anthem.

Having said that it is intended as a step in the right direction, not as an insult. I believe it should be viewed (from both sides) as such.
I also think there are far bigger issues for all concerned than the anthem and can't understand why people on either side are so outraged by the stance of those on the other side.
 
@gregjm87 said in [National anthem](/post/1287587) said:
Why is it insulting? Indigenous people having been saying for years they’ve an issue with the song. Essentially by changing one word the interpretation is hey we’ve changed a word now you should be happy

I assume you are agreeing with me. You just can't win. So much effort is made to try and improve the situation but it doesn't seem to ever appease anyone. Like I said I find the people who aren't indigenous who get offended even worse.

Here is the thing. People in general instead of being offended over so many trivial issues should be focusing on creating good lives for themselves.
 
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

Cathy Freeman is a champion ..
She tweeted “thank you “
 
@hobbo1 said in [National anthem](/post/1287591) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

Cathy Freeman is a champion ..
She tweeted “thank you “

A champion and someone I respect greatly, she was one of the people supporting it that prompted my post.
 
Some of the other more sensible voices in the aboriginal community like Linda Burney and Warren Mundine appear to be giving it the thumbs up as well.
Clowns like Anthony Mundine will always have a problem regardless of what ever happens.
 
@Earl said in [National anthem](/post/1287590) said:
Like I said I find the people who aren’t indigenous who get offended even worse.

There's always some wealthy, inner-city, baby boomer white woman, taking it upon herself to get offended on behalf of other cultures - on any given issue.
 
@hobbo1 said in [National anthem](/post/1287591) said:
@cochise said in [National anthem](/post/1287588) said:
The change does seem to be getting some positive support.

Cathy Freeman is a champion ..
She tweeted “thank you “

Catherine Freeman is awesome. One of the nicest people you will ever meet.
 
@Earl said in [National anthem](/post/1287574) said:
@cktiger said in [National anthem](/post/1287562) said:
Good to see Mundine still isn’t happy.
He said it makes no difference as the song is all about white supremacy ....

Did he really say this. He isn't too smart is he.

On the contrary Earll..I think Mundine knows exactly what he is doing..
 
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