Is NC worth a Million a season out of our cap ? After watching the three Origins and most games Penrith play I certainly would not be paying that amount to sign him. Yes a solid player but certainly not the X factor ,I would be spending the money first on building a dominate forward pack and a class 5/8.
NC worth a Million
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Needed a poll so I added it …should be interesting..
I don’t think the Poll questions sum up the title query.
He is far from overrated, and far from the only answer to all our problems.
I think 800,000 to 850,000 is fair. Don’t believe Penrith will pay much more than that for now.
I’d be surprised if his on much more than 350,000 at the moment.
He is far from overrated, and far from the only answer to all our problems.
I think 800,000 to 850,000 is fair. Don’t believe Penrith will pay much more than that for now.
I’d be surprised if his on much more than 350,000 at the moment.
Tigerdave
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No, he isn't overrated, but not worth that amount of money, but he can't control a game and we already have one of those. Freddy even mentioned it last night during the game that Cleary struggles to find his voice.
Chicken_Faced_Killa
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Unless we improve our pack we could have Johns and Thurston in their prime and still get smashed. A couple of origin/international forwards would be money better spent.
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fair enough changed it a bit..
The thing is though the $1M + price tag is what he will command ..the next Club will pay it..
Spud_Murphy
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Be interesting to see how Cleary goes without Maloney beside him. Maloney makes him, imo. He takes the pressure off him having to control a game. That said, he seems to have a cool head so he may well be capable of taking hold of a game and not resorting to Hail Mary plays when the team is down, but he needs to find his voice as Fittler said.
I thought he was more dominant last year at the Panthers but that probably is because Maloney has really taken over. Not sure having Maloney beside him both at club level and in the SOO has been good for his individual development because Maloney is naturally a dominant player - and Cleary has definitely taken a back seat.
You cant discount his return from a major injury though either.
St George payed a mill for Ben Hunt so Cleary at the very least will command the same but put him behind a dud pack then you will be wasting your investment.
Cleary senior would know that better than anyone so if we dont seriously start strengthening our pack, cant see Nathan signing with us anytime soon
You cant discount his return from a major injury though either.
St George payed a mill for Ben Hunt so Cleary at the very least will command the same but put him behind a dud pack then you will be wasting your investment.
Cleary senior would know that better than anyone so if we dont seriously start strengthening our pack, cant see Nathan signing with us anytime soon
I think it was Gus who said last night in the commentary that NC lacks a voice and struggles with giving orders.
Something that brooks has been accused of as well.
I would rather we signed a decent pack and a Maloney type half to partner brooks.
Im now not so sure about a Brooks/Cleary partnership. Maybe with some gun outside backs it will work.
Something that brooks has been accused of as well.
I would rather we signed a decent pack and a Maloney type half to partner brooks.
Im now not so sure about a Brooks/Cleary partnership. Maybe with some gun outside backs it will work.
If NC is to be paid as a top draw halfback at 1M per year, is he as good as other halfbacks on that coin? I am not sure at this stage of his career and I wouldn’t be comfortable paying that sort of money for potential. At this stage, I would put him in the Mitchell Pearce category - very good at club level but has yet to dominate at the very highest level (although Pearce led chooks to a premiership).
Anyway, as someone else said, we are wasting our time and money buying an elite halfback when we don’t have the forwards yet to take advantage of their skills.
Perhaps the question is how much would you pay for Marty Tapau and Tyson Frizelle?
Anyway, as someone else said, we are wasting our time and money buying an elite halfback when we don’t have the forwards yet to take advantage of their skills.
Perhaps the question is how much would you pay for Marty Tapau and Tyson Frizelle?
goldcoast_tiger
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He’s still a kid, but will only get better, he has the talent and temperate to be a lot better than most
He may not be worth that much at the moment, but that’s probably what it will take to get him,
His big thing is that he seldom makes stupid mistakes such as our overrated two were prone to.
The experience that he’s getting this season is invaluable.
He’s played 3 Origins, there’ll be games in the finals, and possibly a GF , more than some players will ever have in one season ,and he’s
Handled it easily so far.
To expect him to be smashing an Origin game is completely unreasonable.
I doubt that any Half in the game could have done much better in that first half last night
He may not be worth that much at the moment, but that’s probably what it will take to get him,
His big thing is that he seldom makes stupid mistakes such as our overrated two were prone to.
The experience that he’s getting this season is invaluable.
He’s played 3 Origins, there’ll be games in the finals, and possibly a GF , more than some players will ever have in one season ,and he’s
Handled it easily so far.
To expect him to be smashing an Origin game is completely unreasonable.
I doubt that any Half in the game could have done much better in that first half last night
If Brooks is on $550k I'd pay Cleary around $650k because I think he's better than Brooks but not that much better. I don't watch many games other than Wests Tigers so I've had to judge him on 3 SOO games. To be honest I was really disappointed in his attacking game in all 3 Origin games.
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newtiger
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How many games have we lost this year due to poor goal kicking?
I think that someone that kicks at I the high 80% is nearly worth that money, just or his goal kicking.
I don't think that he s the total answer to our problems, but whether he could attract any other elite players here.
We need a prop, a second rower, and a strike centre.
I think that someone that kicks at I the high 80% is nearly worth that money, just or his goal kicking.
I don't think that he s the total answer to our problems, but whether he could attract any other elite players here.
We need a prop, a second rower, and a strike centre.
Remember he is young and the experiences he has got so far is amazing.. Playing SOO and with Maloney each week will help him. Plus he can kick goals and has a great read of the game with great cover defense.
Yes for me as you know he will keep working hard to improve with a good head on his shoulders… SIGN HIM up now.
Yes for me as you know he will keep working hard to improve with a good head on his shoulders… SIGN HIM up now.
Wests Tigers needs to spend their money only in areas where where it's needed. The club doesn't need another halfback especially one taking a big slice of our remaining. CAP. What the club needs to buy with their remaining CAP space are two quality second rowers and two quality centres. Have them signed before the start of the 2019 season and the club can continue its improvement towards a top 8 side at least.
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Is that similar to Sheens type stability..?
avocadoontoast
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So you've only seen him play in 3 games (against the best players in the game) but from that limited game time you are able to deduce that he's only worth $100k more than Brooks who's never played at rep level? Impressive.
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Dont forget he didnt have Maloney last year, he had that reckless idiot Moyaln near him…..and he was still playing exceptionally at 19yo-20yo.
I think he is worth the money. Every great halfback, past and present is only as good as the number 6 next to him, the guy who provides the alternative. As much as I hate, HATE Munster, he is a good example. At club level, Thurston has Morgan, Cronk had Munster and now has Keary, Reynolds has Sutton/Walker. Its no surprise that St George are going well with Ben Hunt and Gareth Widdop. None of the halfabcks are worth a million without a decent 6\. Other good halfbacks that cant operate properly because they have no decent number 6 are Ash Taylor, Mitchell Pearce, DCE at Manly, Shaun Johnson before Blake Green came along....
NC controls the play, goes for repeat sets, is a top line kicker, has a cool head and a far superior attitude to the game than most. He would be a great bloke to build a genuine football culture around. You need a quality 6 to go with him. They don't have to be a world beater, just quality. I'm not sure who you can get for the right coin. I actually think Mbye could be a chance at that 6 role if Cleary was there. He is a calm head, Good reader of play, has the ball skills. He wouldnt be my first pick, but he would be someone I would consider.
