Neil begovich still a tiger
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MacDougall
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Get him back. The bloke was a future star! We need him.
MacDougall
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@Tiger Watto said:
This is the sort of player we need! What a crock!
@Irvine said:
You mean apart from the Australian Schoolboys selectors? Besides the earlier posts suggest the man himself made a decision to go into business rather be a full time NRL player but if blaming Sheens for every single thing that goes wrong makes you feel better, go ahead.
MacDougall
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I'm sure he would answer the call if he was offered a first grade spot.
@Irvine said:
What makes you say that? But okay you want to play the game, where is your proof that Tim Sheens had anything to do with Neil Begovich leaving the club?
@MacDougall said:
So would half the forum :laughing:
MacDougall
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yes but Neil Begovich was always a good prop! He's precisely the kind of prop we need too. Just a head down bum up, dent the line hard man.
wests4ever
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Here we go again another Thread where genuine supporters who have had enough of Tom Shiner & his excuses over the years for substandard performance despite having as much talent on paper as the top teams get shouted down by "Mary Magdelines" of this world who defend Shiner to the bitter end with their pathetic excuses!!!! :wtf
Just like Tony "CAULIFLOWER EARS Rabbit & his band of morts who are pre programmed to say "NO" to everything these forum members go on & on & on making excuses why this player left or this player will come good or we have injuries & its not Tom Shiners decision in the end who Weststigers keep or let go????????? :blah
Give me a beak- Anyone with any common sense can see through their arguments Year in Year out- the best array of talent yet nothing to show for it in a long time!!!!!
:crazy :deadhorse:
BOTTOM LINE i LIKE MOST "GENUINE SUPPORTERS" WANT RESULTS- NOT EXCUSES- PERIOD!!!!
Just like Tony "CAULIFLOWER EARS Rabbit & his band of morts who are pre programmed to say "NO" to everything these forum members go on & on & on making excuses why this player left or this player will come good or we have injuries & its not Tom Shiners decision in the end who Weststigers keep or let go????????? :blah
Give me a beak- Anyone with any common sense can see through their arguments Year in Year out- the best array of talent yet nothing to show for it in a long time!!!!!
:crazy :deadhorse:
BOTTOM LINE i LIKE MOST "GENUINE SUPPORTERS" WANT RESULTS- NOT EXCUSES- PERIOD!!!!
@Yossarian said:
If Sheens was the issue I would have thought Begovich would have simply gone to another club, instead of going back to Group 6?
@wests4ever said:
I think you need to look at what you're saying. I'd say the opposite is true. Anyone who refuses to blame Sheens/Humphries etc for everything that goes wrong are instantly insulted as in your post and others. And as per usual the lack of any evidence indicating Sheens had anything to do with it is instantly dismissed and attacked.
There are plenty of forum members who are critical of the coaching or administration from time to time but who aren't prepared to blame them for every single matter like individuals making life decisions.
@Cultured Bogan said:
You'd think so… If I didn't know any better I'd think he just wants to play park footy for fun and is more focused on something else other than rugby league. Who knows, maybe Sheens rang the other NRL clubs to warn them off Neil. :smiling_imp:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Maybe Neil thought another club would be just as bad. Maybe he just got tired of the crap as did Joel Wisby and Jake Mullaney.
Neil works for his father. He didn't leave to continue his business he left as did the others because he was treated poorly. I wonder what junior will be abandoned next ?
MacDougall
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I'm not suggesting it's Sheens fault but I read on here that Neil was annoyed last year when Groat got a call up ahead of him despite Begovich outplaying him in almost every match in NYC and being older and in NYC longer and then when he wasn't offered a top 25 contract during the off season he decided to hell with it all. It boggles my mind why he wasn't offered a top 25 contract because he was one of the best props in NYC and looked every bit a future first grader and showed more than Groat. Meanwhile we have about 4 props in our top 25 and a few backrowers that can fill in there and an over saturation of outside backs. If you don't agree that going on on field form Neil Begovich should have been in the top 25 for 2012, then fine.
Now we're after Mason. Even if Mason is coming cheap, Begovich would have been cheaper. I totally sympathise with Neil and blame WT management, not necessarily Sheens, but it was most likely his decision.
Now we're after Mason. Even if Mason is coming cheap, Begovich would have been cheaper. I totally sympathise with Neil and blame WT management, not necessarily Sheens, but it was most likely his decision.
Maybe but if he really wanted to play NRL he'd have stuck around or gone to another club. Maybe he wasn't able to demonstrate his full commitment to making the next step. At the end of the day Sheens and WT management need to make these judgements and they seem to get it more right than wrong.
@MacDougall said:
One time when I was about 20 a good looking girl I thought I had a chance with went home with my mate instead.
After that I went home and said "I'll show you - I'm staying home to play with my other friends and not going to go out and play with you anymore - so there!" :roll
Do we really know this is true?
I was hoping he just decided on a business life instead of footy - now we hear he spat the dummy! :blah
MacDougall
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If the guy busts his gut for a year to the absolute peak of his abilities and gives all he's got and still doesn't crack it because of politics then he has a right to get the shits and give up. It'd be like being the best person for the promotion and your bosses mates younger brother gets it, that'd shit you would it not?