New chairperson?

[hobbo]

Pascoe looked very unprofessional today IMO, unshaven, he looked like he had just woken up. Small thing I know, but still a very unprofessional and sloppy look.

Agree , he looked like a homeless person who'd scored a free suit from a vinnies bin .

 

[Flippedy]

Pascoe looked very unprofessional today IMO, unshaven, he looked like he had just woken up. Small thing I know, but still a very unprofessional and sloppy look.

Agree , he looked like a homeless person who'd scored a free suit from a vinnies bin .

It's been a tough day :laughing:

 

[steve-o]

I don't have any issues with Go. This club needs some stability in the back office… we seem to have a revolving door of CEO and board member changes.

 

[hobbo]

Pascoe looked very unprofessional today IMO, unshaven, he looked like he had just woken up. Small thing I know, but still a very unprofessional and sloppy look.

Agree , he looked like a homeless person who'd scored a free suit from a vinnies bin .

It's been a tough day :laughing:

Sure has :laughing:
Their was no high tea consumed at head office this arvo :laughing:

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Pascoe looked very unprofessional today IMO, unshaven, he looked like he had just woken up. Small thing I know, but still a very unprofessional and sloppy look.

Agree , he looked like a homeless person who'd scored a free suit from a vinnies bin .

Hahahaha!
He could've at least busted out the baby-blue safari suit! With matching Crocs on his tootsies for good measure.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Pascoe looked very unprofessional today IMO, unshaven, he looked like he had just woken up. Small thing I know, but still a very unprofessional and sloppy look.

Agree , he looked like a homeless person who'd scored a free suit from a vinnies bin .

It's been a tough day :laughing:

Sure has :laughing:
Their was no high tea consumed at head office this arvo :laughing:

Lovett heard the words "high tea" and was standing in the clubs' foyer in a flash.

 

[Flippedy]

I'll just leave this here. Andrew Webster, who in my opinion is one of the few sports writers who is fair and readible (and no I didn't add it just because I agree with him…......I did it because he agrees with me. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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This time, they can't blame Robbie Farah.
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And if they are really watching the same game as the rest of us they will see that Moses and Brooks are boys playing against men.

Potential and promise is one thing, and that comes with a handy price tag.

But playing finals footy, winning finals footy, playing in rep sides is another thing altogether and neither have achieved any of that to be demanding salaries over $500,000 a season.

So, if Issac Moses isn't to blame for this disaster at the Wests Tigers, then who is?

Maybe the coach, who was sacked as Souths coach following his infamous Karate Kid impression in front of David Fa'alogo during Mad Monday celebrations.

He came to Concord and promised to bring a hard defensive edge to the side. The last two matches speak for themselves, although in fairness he had to deal with a Tim Simona gambling saga he never saw coming.

When the disgraced centre revealed in The Sunday Telegraph that he'd been snorting cocaine with teammates during Mad Monday celebrations, it rocked the squad on the day of the match against Penrith.

If Taylor isn't entirely to blame, then, perhaps it's chief executive Justin Pascoe.

Early into his tenure at the Tigers, Pascoe was warned about the pitfalls of keeping Taylor. Promises were made about ensuring Farah would be safe; that he'd be treated with respect.

As the deplorable events of last season unfolded, and Farah was told on the eve of his 250th match that he was being dispatched to NSW Cup, Pascoe fell silent.

"We're not going to allow this organisation to drift again," Pascoe declare at a media conference late on Monday.

Drift? The Tigers went out with the tide months ago.

The chief executive, though, is answerable to a board, and on that count it must surely be time for change.

It's understood the club is now paying about $1.2 million for players and coaches who are no longer there: $750,000 to Farah, about $200,000 for Curtis Sironen and now $250,000 for Taylor.

The Tigers have now sacked three coaches in five years. They fell for Taylor's spell, chose him over a club legend on the promise of change, and have now decided to sack him after just three matches.

If the conspiracy theorists are correct, and they've sacked a coach and sided with a player manager in a desperate bid to keep their biggest names, it will go down as the most sickening display from a board in recent history.

So maybe the people at the very top are to blame. And, for a change, they can't blame it on Robbie Farah.

Fair enough article - there has been a long line of people who can be blamed for this fiasco. Place has been simmering for years. Previous CEOs and Board Members, not just the present ones, can also take some of the blame for putting us in this position in the first place and they were the ones who sacked the first of the 3 coaches. Oh and Taylor was sacked after 2 seasons and 3 matches, not just 3 matches! :laughing:

 

[Patts]

I am not anti female administrators but I have to question what is it about her background that makes her the most appropriate chair for our board? There are hundreds of more experienced options so let's call this what it is; a token appointment! To date all she has managed to do is get into a blue with the country's leading rugby league sports writer so he takes absolutely every opportunity he can to kick our club in the guts. I'm not saying the media should dictate our appointments but while ever Go is on the board we aren't going to get a fair go by the media, particularly by Newslimited; and I'm not sure her upside is worth that baggage.

 

[hobbo]

Agree , he looked like a homeless person who'd scored a free suit from a vinnies bin .

It's been a tough day :laughing:

Sure has :laughing:
Their was no high tea consumed at head office this arvo :laughing:

Lovett heard the words "high tea" and was standing in the clubs' foyer in a flash.

But instead of scoring some free tea leaf , Lovett was asked to retrieve JT's car ….rankin was filthy :laughing:

You've just gotta laugh mate ... Basket case of a club :laughing:

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Basket case indeed mate. Hope the players approve of our new coach-to-be or they will have him out the door before he even gets the chance to place his snow globe on his desk.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

The fact that our CEO used the phrase "the big 4" is alarming as well IMO. Deluded club from the top down it seems.

 

[TYGA]

Since when did supporting a football team involve whinging and moaning about bloody administrators? You can fairly judge footballers and coaching staff by what you see on the park week in, week out. A bunch of those complaining probably have no idea what being on a board involves or what decisions they're actually responsible for, and they certainly have no idea about the particular circumstances under which this board operates. They might be doing a terrible job or they might be doing a decent job, I have absolutely no idea so I'm not about to start speculating and whining…

+1.

Not sure people understand the hierarchical nature of the WT (me not fully understanding either). There is the Footy Ops side and the Admin side; both report into JP. Kelly leads Footy Ops so the buck stops with him and Pascoe. The admin side would have their own Director (not sure who) and they would report into JP. JP reports into the board.

Go and the Board will harness feedback on both Op's and Admin fronts and make decisions accordingly. According to Pascoe, the business on the admin side is going OK, with membership and sponsorship and highs since 2012 (yes, the last time we made the finals); however, they own the commercial and contractual challenges with the 'big 4'. Its now just Footy Op's that needs to get their house in order.

As far as I'm concerned, Footy Op's own this coach mess, and admin now own the mess of the big 4\. The Board are only as good as the intel being given to them; data in, data out, garbage in, garbage out.

It starts and ends with the board and chair. They hire the leadership CEO, Head Of Football and the head coach. They have been dismal failures in this regard. Positions may differ but you have Dib/Peponis at the Dogs, Politis at the Roosters, Pappas/Crowe at Souths, Gould at Panthers, Gorman/ Keogh at the Sharks. Lancini at Cowboys, Broncos Paul White, Frank Ponissi Storm. We have Go and a rookie Pascoe with Egan a recruitment guy as the head of football. Unless the people improve on the job the team underneath will never improve.

 

[ryanda01]

The fact that our CEO used the phrase "the big 4" is alarming as well IMO. Deluded club from the top down it seems.

Was thinking the same thing. No room for JT on that pedestal it would appear.

 

[tigerap]

Marina Go is not a football leader she has to go… Put Wayne Pearce in as WT Chair

 

[ryanda01]

Since when did supporting a football team involve whinging and moaning about bloody administrators? You can fairly judge footballers and coaching staff by what you see on the park week in, week out. A bunch of those complaining probably have no idea what being on a board involves or what decisions they're actually responsible for, and they certainly have no idea about the particular circumstances under which this board operates. They might be doing a terrible job or they might be doing a decent job, I have absolutely no idea so I'm not about to start speculating and whining…

+1.

Not sure people understand the hierarchical nature of the WT (me not fully understanding either). There is the Footy Ops side and the Admin side; both report into JP. Kelly leads Footy Ops so the buck stops with him and Pascoe. The admin side would have their own Director (not sure who) and they would report into JP. JP reports into the board.

Go and the Board will harness feedback on both Op's and Admin fronts and make decisions accordingly. According to Pascoe, the business on the admin side is going OK, with membership and sponsorship and highs since 2012 (yes, the last time we made the finals); however, they own the commercial and contractual challenges with the 'big 4'. Its now just Footy Op's that needs to get their house in order.

As far as I'm concerned, Footy Op's own this coach mess, and admin now own the mess of the big 4\. The Board are only as good as the intel being given to them; data in, data out, garbage in, garbage out.

It starts and ends with the board and chair. They hire the leadership CEO, Head Of Football and the head coach. They have been dismal failures in this regard. Positions may differ but you have Dib/Peponis at the Dogs, Politis at the Roosters, Pappas/Crowe at Souths, Gould at Panthers, Gorman/ Keogh at the Sharks. Lancini at Cowboys, Broncos Paul White, Frank Ponissi Storm. We have Go and a rookie Pascoe with Egan a recruitment guy as the head of football. Unless the people improve on the job the team underneath will never improve.

I agree to a degree. However, Go isn't the one hospital passing to a 4 strong defensive line, not completing the sets, knocking on the ball in a 1-on-1 tackle or scoring 1 try in 240 minutes. JP and Go/Board have obviously seen the mediocrity of the onfield performances and charged JT with public indecency, punishable by public flogging.

I don't know what goes on in that boardroom, but it doesn't take the greatest football mind to understand that when you haven't made the final in 5 years that something needs to change. They've been through 4 coaches now; so its either the playing group, culture, and if you've pointed the finger everywhere else then it needs to be pointed towards themselves.

Hope they can see that light if things don't pan out; which I'd think we all agree it does.

 

[TJL]

Since Wests own the joint the next chairman has to be from Wests. It's about time Wests got the acknowledgment for the money that they have been putting into the club. Without Wests there would be no Tigers. Long live the Pies!

 

[happy_tiger]

Since when did supporting a football team involve whinging and moaning about bloody administrators? You can fairly judge footballers and coaching staff by what you see on the park week in, week out. A bunch of those complaining probably have no idea what being on a board involves or what decisions they're actually responsible for, and they certainly have no idea about the particular circumstances under which this board operates. They might be doing a terrible job or they might be doing a decent job, I have absolutely no idea so I'm not about to start speculating and whining…

Just consistantly bad decisions from the club which, have continued for 5 years. You don't see this from Broncos, Storm, Roosters. I think the club has to move on from the past and get experienced footy people on the board and in leadership with business acumen.

Hopefully a good coach covers it all up but very few are that good.

Bad decisions are usually covered up by having a winning team and not sacking coaches before their tenures are up

 

[jadtiger]

They just made a big decision that a lot of us agree with and we want to push them out as well.

I would be calling for their sacking if they had of extended JT's contract.

We cant start shuffling the decks at that level yet. It would be a massive blow to retention and recruitment. I think Pascoe is going well, let the board see us through this year and based on the outcomes of coach selection and recruitment we can start taking shots at them.

I think we need to look at the playing roster in earnest next - but this should be done in conjunction with a new coach.

You are the voice of reason. After the patient has major surgery (long overdue) you need to recover before you decide if anything else needs to be done.Monitor the situation and act if required .

The none performers on the field must go, luckily enough because many of them are off contract we dont have to pay them out.Having so many poor players off contract should be be a massive bonus for our rebuilding and in 2018 we will have money.I dont want to see useless articles such as Kev Rankin Edwards in our roster next year even as depth.Lawrence is harder because he is still under contract but i would be happy if he retired surely an assistant position could be created for him

 

[Geo]

Since Wests own the joint the next chairman has to be from Wests. It's about time Wests got the acknowledgment for the money that they have been putting into the club. Without Wests there would be no Tigers. Long live the Pies!

You know that Wests installed Go as chair after the Board restructure right..

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Since Wests own the joint the next chairman has to be from Wests. It's about time Wests got the acknowledgment for the money that they have been putting into the club. Without Wests there would be no Tigers. Long live the Pies!

Since they have all the votes they'll be able to seat whomever they like, so sit tight.

The old boys club previous to the independents hadn't worked, so they tried a different tact with proven business leaders. They've shown a lack of industry nous so now they'll have to try and find someone with the right balance.

The crap this club finds itself in is not just limited to Go/Pascoe, it is a culmination of 17 years of mismanagement. Even when we won the comp we were far from a professional outfit at the front end.