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From NRL.com

Tigers set to part ways with Cleary and seal Bennett deal
Author
Michael Chammas
Chief Reporter
Timestamp
Thu 4 Oct 2018, 08:25 PM

The Wests Tigers are on the verge of striking a deal to release Ivan Cleary in the coming days as they move to finalise a long-term contract with super coach Wayne Bennett, potentially effective immediately.

NRL.com understands Cleary could be granted a release to join Penrith in 2019 as the Tigers ramp up discussions with Bennett about coaching the club from as early as next season.

It is understood the Tigers are willing to release Cleary in the coming days, with club officials of the view his position is almost untenable, but they are working through delicate negotiations with Bennett before signing off on their coach's release from the final two years of his deal.
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Cleary has already committed to the Panthers for three years from the 2021 season.

Bennett still has another year to run at Brisbane, however the Broncos could be willing to part ways with the wily coach after recently informing him that his services wouldn't be required at Red Hill beyond the end of 2019.

The Australian reported on Wednesday that Bennett had expressed interest in the Tigers job. NRL.com understands matters have progressed a lot further this week.

Cleary's potential release from the Tigers would then result in him inking a five-year deal with the Panthers to coach the team which includes his son until at least 2023.

The Tigers have attracted interest from several coaches, including Bennett and Michael Maguire - a reflection of how far the club has come despite modest facilities and a lack of success on the field.

One of the sticking points in discussions with Bennett will revolve around money, with Bennett likely to have to take a substantial pay cut on a deal that is likely to be well less than a million dollars a year.

Given some of the criticism of Bennett in recent years, there's a feeling he may be willing to take a pay cut to still prove he has what it takes to lead a team to premiership glory.
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The Tigers return to pre-season training on November 1, while Cleary is believed to be heading on an overseas trip with his family to Bali on Sunday.

Bennett will also be away with the English team for an international series against New Zealand in the United Kingdom later this month.

Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
©Jason O'Brien/NRL Photos
NRL.com revealed in August that the Panthers were interested in Cleary returning to the club three years after he was sacked by executive general manager Phil Gould.

Nathan Cleary, after playing a leading hand in the Blues' State of Origin series win in his first appearances in a NSW jersey, is considered the cornerstone of the Penrith franchise.

After extending his deal at the Panthers until the end of 2024 recently, the goal-kicking halfback told NRL.com his new contract had "nothing to do with my old man".

"I was happy to make the decision by myself. What happens in the future with dad is out of my control. I don't think I ever thought I was going to leave even with what was going on. I always thought I would stay and it would all work itself out eventually and yeah it did. This is a real happy place to be in at the moment."

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Now, everyone calling for Cleary’s head and for Pascoe to make a stand have to realise that the above scenario could not have been possible if we moved first. Alternatively if Ivan and the Panthers wanted to come to a favourable agreement it was never in their best interest to shoot first either.
We have just ‘possibly for now’ managed to turned the most screwed up scenario that our club would ever face and turn it into the biggest positive that we could ever imagine.
 
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Piss him off immediately! What a jerk!! Hypocrisy at its best. On the bus - what crap!!
Oh and by the way - yeah it was all a media beat up! Good one.
2 more years with us with no heart or plan for the future. He’s gone now. GET STUFFED IVAN YOU HYPOCRITICAL PRETENDER!

Well said. Could say a whole lot more but thats best left for behind closed doors where swearing wont upset anyone.

Mate I’m telling you now, I’m going to make it my personal mission to front this bloke face to face and tell him what a hypocrite he is. This jerk convinced players to move countries to buy in to his dream. He sold a rebuild dream to everyone and nicks off at first chance. Man, I’ve been annoyed and disappointed before by Tigers but this takes the cake. Ivan Cleary is the worst Tiger ever to represent this club.

Im not about to hunt him down but if i ever run in to him i will do the same.

Absolute dog act.

I feel for the players caught up in this. The Russell Packers, Ben Matulinos etc.

And lets not forget that he signed both Robbie and Benji to new contracts knowing full well he was not going to be here to coach them.
 
Yep.
I feel for the players that here to play under him Ivan. Yet I’m Still looking for a new coach to bring new players here. Is that immoral.
 
This is great news, if we get Bennett. It's just a pity he's wasted two spots on Farah and Marshall. Hopefully Bennett will talk them around.
 
Cleary's people will try to spin this to say that he has only signed for 2021 and beyond and is still committed to WT for the next two years but we all know that is a lie. News of his signing has been passed to the media to try and force our hand to release him early. We should let him go now but only after trying to screw Penrith as much as humanly possible. He is a dead man walking at WT now and no sane-thinking person could believe that he will have WT uppermost in his mind when he intends to coach an opposition team at the first opportunity.
I'm not a huge fan of either Bennett or Maguire but they are probably the best two coaches available. I lean towards Bennett because there's a chance he can convince a couple of the Broncos young guns to come to us.
IMO Cleary has tainted his name and while I don't think he'll care too much we will always remember him as a dog.
 
Someone on here knows his address, lets send some nice letters to him about morals, creditability, honesty, ethics, values, principles etc:
 
I have a feeling the players will move on from this quickly. Benji has been coached by Wayne and certainly gets on very well with him, he'd be pretty damn stoked to see him coaching the Tigers and I reckon that will flow on easily enough to the rest of the squad. The next few days should be interesting.
 
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I have a feeling the players will move on from this quickly. Benji has been coached by Wayne and certainly gets on very well with him, he'd be pretty damn stoked to see him coaching the Tigers and I reckon that will flow on easily enough to the rest of the squad. The next few days should be interesting.

Yeah I can't see causing issues with the players, pre season havnt even started yet.
 
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I have a feeling the players will move on from this quickly. Benji has been coached by Wayne and certainly gets on very well with him, he'd be pretty damn stoked to see him coaching the Tigers and I reckon that will flow on easily enough to the rest of the squad. The next few days should be interesting.

I’m probably asking too much but I’d love to hear some raw honesty from the players. I’d love to hear Reynolds on 360 say “ yeah we were really disappointed in the lack of integrity Ivan showed. He’s obviously not a man of his word.” Something like that.
 
If we end up with Wayne for 2019 I would be shell shocked with excitement. Corporate dollars plus young talent pool !!! Both we need to make the club more attractive . I couldnt give a stuff if he is near 70 - he commands respect and attention
 
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I have a feeling the players will move on from this quickly. Benji has been coached by Wayne and certainly gets on very well with him, he'd be pretty damn stoked to see him coaching the Tigers and I reckon that will flow on easily enough to the rest of the squad. The next few days should be interesting.

Our squad and management are good people who genuinely want to be here.
 
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From NRL.com

Tigers set to part ways with Cleary and seal Bennett deal
Author
Michael Chammas
Chief Reporter
Timestamp
Thu 4 Oct 2018, 08:25 PM

The Wests Tigers are on the verge of striking a deal to release Ivan Cleary in the coming days as they move to finalise a long-term contract with super coach Wayne Bennett, potentially effective immediately.

NRL.com understands Cleary could be granted a release to join Penrith in 2019 as the Tigers ramp up discussions with Bennett about coaching the club from as early as next season.

It is understood the Tigers are willing to release Cleary in the coming days, with club officials of the view his position is almost untenable, but they are working through delicate negotiations with Bennett before signing off on their coach's release from the final two years of his deal.
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Cleary has already committed to the Panthers for three years from the 2021 season.

Bennett still has another year to run at Brisbane, however the Broncos could be willing to part ways with the wily coach after recently informing him that his services wouldn't be required at Red Hill beyond the end of 2019.

The Australian reported on Wednesday that Bennett had expressed interest in the Tigers job. NRL.com understands matters have progressed a lot further this week.

Cleary's potential release from the Tigers would then result in him inking a five-year deal with the Panthers to coach the team which includes his son until at least 2023.

The Tigers have attracted interest from several coaches, including Bennett and Michael Maguire - a reflection of how far the club has come despite modest facilities and a lack of success on the field.

One of the sticking points in discussions with Bennett will revolve around money, with Bennett likely to have to take a substantial pay cut on a deal that is likely to be well less than a million dollars a year.

Given some of the criticism of Bennett in recent years, there's a feeling he may be willing to take a pay cut to still prove he has what it takes to lead a team to premiership glory.
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The Tigers return to pre-season training on November 1, while Cleary is believed to be heading on an overseas trip with his family to Bali on Sunday.

Bennett will also be away with the English team for an international series against New Zealand in the United Kingdom later this month.

Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
©Jason O'Brien/NRL Photos
NRL.com revealed in August that the Panthers were interested in Cleary returning to the club three years after he was sacked by executive general manager Phil Gould.

Nathan Cleary, after playing a leading hand in the Blues' State of Origin series win in his first appearances in a NSW jersey, is considered the cornerstone of the Penrith franchise.

After extending his deal at the Panthers until the end of 2024 recently, the goal-kicking halfback told NRL.com his new contract had "nothing to do with my old man".

"I was happy to make the decision by myself. What happens in the future with dad is out of my control. I don't think I ever thought I was going to leave even with what was going on. I always thought I would stay and it would all work itself out eventually and yeah it did. This is a real happy place to be in at the moment."

This^
Now, everyone calling for Cleary’s head and for Pascoe to make a stand have to realise that the above scenario could not have been possible if we moved first. Alternatively if Ivan and the Panthers wanted to come to a favourable agreement it was never in their best interest to shoot first either.
We have just ‘possibly for now’ managed to turned the most screwed up scenario that our club would ever face and turn it into the biggest positive that we could ever imagine.

What can Bennett bring to the Wests Tigers, hopefully stability and a chance of signing quality players at market value or below. Just hope he still has the passion to win.
 
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I have a feeling the players will move on from this quickly. Benji has been coached by Wayne and certainly gets on very well with him, he'd be pretty damn stoked to see him coaching the Tigers and I reckon that will flow on easily enough to the rest of the squad. The next few days should be interesting.

Yeah I can't see causing issues with the players, pre season havnt even started yet.

Agree totally! I liked Cleary but if we can actually snare 7 time Premiership winner Bennett, and all that he brings to the game, then it's a major step up imo, and I'm sure the players would realise this as well. This is a real coup for us if it comes off - making good from what looked to be a bad situation.
 
I actually don’t mind Bennett or Maguire and I agree that players will move on and I agree we should be able to attract talent. But I’m so annoyed at the double standards and hypocrisy.
Also really impressed so far with Tigers leadership- they have played this out pretty well.
 
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