tiger05premier
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You are right
The Cleary's have total control
If something goes wrong what than
Pay out 10mil for the love fest (father and son) ?
I doubt it
Panthers will just be screwed
New coach.. Who should we target?
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You are right
The Cleary's have total control
If something goes wrong what than
Pay out 10mil for the love fest (father and son) ?
I doubt it
Panthers will just be screwed
momo_amp_medo
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Telegraph just reported Cleary signed 3 year deal with the Panthers from 2021 season onwards.
GNR4LIFE
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DT reporting Cleary has signed with Penrith from 2021\. Our club would consider an early release if things change “favourably” for us. Whatever that means.
I got no issue if Cleary is signed for 2021\. He doesn’t owe us anything past that point, and what guarantee is there that we’d want to re-sign him anyway. Things aren’t looking great for 2019, so that would leave only 2020 for him to earn a new contract. Maybe he knows how bleak it’s looking and is getting out while he can 🤷♀️
I got no issue if Cleary is signed for 2021\. He doesn’t owe us anything past that point, and what guarantee is there that we’d want to re-sign him anyway. Things aren’t looking great for 2019, so that would leave only 2020 for him to earn a new contract. Maybe he knows how bleak it’s looking and is getting out while he can 🤷♀️
TIGERPOWER
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He needs to be gone now. If he stays coach here for the next 2 years then we will become the laughing stock of the NRL.
momo_amp_medo
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IVAN Cleary is going back to Penrith.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Wests Tigers coach has agreed to rejoin former club the Panthers on a three-year deal from 2021.
WIt’s a swift blow from the Panthers, who last week announced Ivan’s son Nathan Cleary had re-signed with the club on a new five-year deal.
The revelation comes a day after Tigers great Steve Roach implored his club to go after unwanted Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett to replace Cleary.
It is unknown whether Cleary has formally told Tigers management of his decision to quit the club after the 2020 season.
Cleary’s future has been uncertain since it was revealed two months ago that he had been involved with high-level conversations with Panthers chairman Dave O’Neill about a dramatic return to Penrith.
Panthers general manager of football Phil Gould gave Cleary his marching orders at the end of the 2015 season, claiming the coach was tired and needed a break.
It is understood the relationship between the pair is cordial but not overly warm.
If the Tigers are able to negotiate a compensation package from the Panthers — either through a financial payout or player transfer — to release Cleary early, it would relegate highly touted caretaker coach Cameron Ciraldo to assistant duties, despite guiding the Panthers to the second week of the NRL finals.
One well-placed source close to Penrith told The Daily Telegraph: “The club and Ivan’s management have formally agreed to terms for ’21, ’22 and ’23.
It will now be interesting to see what transpires over the next two years of his contract at Wests Tigers.
“There is still a chance Ivan will at Penrith next season. Would you want him at your club if he has signed somewhere else? That’s the reality. Penrith isn’t in any hurry. Cameron is organising things as we go.”
Should Cleary leave immediately, the Tigers could start an official pursuit of disgruntled Brisbane coach Bennett, who has been told he will not be re-signed beyond next season.
Former South Sydney premiership-winning coach Michel Maguire has also been linked to the Tigers.
“Wests Tigers have Ivan contacted for the next two years. If circumstances were to change favourably for the club, and they’d have to be pretty favourable, the club’s board would probably consider a release for Ivan,” a source close to the Tigers said.
“If there was a compelling reason to look at an alternative coach then the club would look at it. Until then, Ivan has to coach at Wests Tigers and do a good job.”
The Daily Telegraph can reveal the Wests Tigers coach has agreed to rejoin former club the Panthers on a three-year deal from 2021.
WIt’s a swift blow from the Panthers, who last week announced Ivan’s son Nathan Cleary had re-signed with the club on a new five-year deal.
The revelation comes a day after Tigers great Steve Roach implored his club to go after unwanted Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett to replace Cleary.
It is unknown whether Cleary has formally told Tigers management of his decision to quit the club after the 2020 season.
Cleary’s future has been uncertain since it was revealed two months ago that he had been involved with high-level conversations with Panthers chairman Dave O’Neill about a dramatic return to Penrith.
Panthers general manager of football Phil Gould gave Cleary his marching orders at the end of the 2015 season, claiming the coach was tired and needed a break.
It is understood the relationship between the pair is cordial but not overly warm.
If the Tigers are able to negotiate a compensation package from the Panthers — either through a financial payout or player transfer — to release Cleary early, it would relegate highly touted caretaker coach Cameron Ciraldo to assistant duties, despite guiding the Panthers to the second week of the NRL finals.
One well-placed source close to Penrith told The Daily Telegraph: “The club and Ivan’s management have formally agreed to terms for ’21, ’22 and ’23.
It will now be interesting to see what transpires over the next two years of his contract at Wests Tigers.
“There is still a chance Ivan will at Penrith next season. Would you want him at your club if he has signed somewhere else? That’s the reality. Penrith isn’t in any hurry. Cameron is organising things as we go.”
Should Cleary leave immediately, the Tigers could start an official pursuit of disgruntled Brisbane coach Bennett, who has been told he will not be re-signed beyond next season.
Former South Sydney premiership-winning coach Michel Maguire has also been linked to the Tigers.
“Wests Tigers have Ivan contacted for the next two years. If circumstances were to change favourably for the club, and they’d have to be pretty favourable, the club’s board would probably consider a release for Ivan,” a source close to the Tigers said.
“If there was a compelling reason to look at an alternative coach then the club would look at it. Until then, Ivan has to coach at Wests Tigers and do a good job.”
jirskyr
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I believe it is 4 tests - one-off against France then 3 against the Kiwis.
momo_amp_medo
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Yes I think his position is now unintenable and it just remains for the Panthers and WT to come to terms and settlement for his immediate release.
Terribly disappointed in the man. I got it very wrong.
The_Patriot
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The Tigers return to pre-season training on November 1, while Cleary is believed to be heading on an overseas trip with his family to Bali on Sunday.
Thank you Ivan. I now have my timeline for when this will be finalised.
Expect nothing less from the guy, he has dogged every single one of us.
Thank you Ivan. I now have my timeline for when this will be finalised.
Expect nothing less from the guy, he has dogged every single one of us.
Coasttiger
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/10/04/wests-tigers-set-to-part-ways-with-ivan-cleary-and-seal-wayne-bennett-deal/
innsaneink
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Solid!
Tiger_Steve
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Piss him off immediately! What a jerk!! Hypocrisy at its best. On the bus - what crap!!
Oh and by the way - yeah it was all a media beat up! Good one.
2 more years with us with no heart or plan for the future. He’s gone now. GET STUFFED IVAN YOU HYPOCRITICAL PRETENDER!
Oh and by the way - yeah it was all a media beat up! Good one.
2 more years with us with no heart or plan for the future. He’s gone now. GET STUFFED IVAN YOU HYPOCRITICAL PRETENDER!
The_Patriot
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I really like how Pascoe and the team are handling this. There was never any question he was gone the minute he signed that future deal with Penrith. We can not have a coach leading us when he has a contract with another club.
The_Patriot
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Well said. Could say a whole lot more but thats best left for behind closed doors where swearing wont upset anyone.
innsaneink
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Well…hopefully it proves to be a godsend....it may well turn out to be a bonus for us.
Massive risk for gus & penrith imo
Theyve a lot to lose, theyre already up there and backing a long shot...us not so much
Massive risk for gus & penrith imo
Theyve a lot to lose, theyre already up there and backing a long shot...us not so much
From NRL.com
Tigers set to part ways with Cleary and seal Bennett deal
Author
Michael Chammas
Chief Reporter
Timestamp
Thu 4 Oct 2018, 08:25 PM
The Wests Tigers are on the verge of striking a deal to release Ivan Cleary in the coming days as they move to finalise a long-term contract with super coach Wayne Bennett, potentially effective immediately.
NRL.com understands Cleary could be granted a release to join Penrith in 2019 as the Tigers ramp up discussions with Bennett about coaching the club from as early as next season.
It is understood the Tigers are willing to release Cleary in the coming days, with club officials of the view his position is almost untenable, but they are working through delicate negotiations with Bennett before signing off on their coach's release from the final two years of his deal.
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Cleary has already committed to the Panthers for three years from the 2021 season.
Bennett still has another year to run at Brisbane, however the Broncos could be willing to part ways with the wily coach after recently informing him that his services wouldn't be required at Red Hill beyond the end of 2019.
The Australian reported on Wednesday that Bennett had expressed interest in the Tigers job. NRL.com understands matters have progressed a lot further this week.
Cleary's potential release from the Tigers would then result in him inking a five-year deal with the Panthers to coach the team which includes his son until at least 2023.
The Tigers have attracted interest from several coaches, including Bennett and Michael Maguire - a reflection of how far the club has come despite modest facilities and a lack of success on the field.
One of the sticking points in discussions with Bennett will revolve around money, with Bennett likely to have to take a substantial pay cut on a deal that is likely to be well less than a million dollars a year.
Given some of the criticism of Bennett in recent years, there's a feeling he may be willing to take a pay cut to still prove he has what it takes to lead a team to premiership glory.
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The Tigers return to pre-season training on November 1, while Cleary is believed to be heading on an overseas trip with his family to Bali on Sunday.
Bennett will also be away with the English team for an international series against New Zealand in the United Kingdom later this month.
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
©Jason O'Brien/NRL Photos
NRL.com revealed in August that the Panthers were interested in Cleary returning to the club three years after he was sacked by executive general manager Phil Gould.
Nathan Cleary, after playing a leading hand in the Blues' State of Origin series win in his first appearances in a NSW jersey, is considered the cornerstone of the Penrith franchise.
After extending his deal at the Panthers until the end of 2024 recently, the goal-kicking halfback told NRL.com his new contract had "nothing to do with my old man".
"I was happy to make the decision by myself. What happens in the future with dad is out of my control. I don't think I ever thought I was going to leave even with what was going on. I always thought I would stay and it would all work itself out eventually and yeah it did. This is a real happy place to be in at the moment."
Tigers set to part ways with Cleary and seal Bennett deal
Author
Michael Chammas
Chief Reporter
Timestamp
Thu 4 Oct 2018, 08:25 PM
The Wests Tigers are on the verge of striking a deal to release Ivan Cleary in the coming days as they move to finalise a long-term contract with super coach Wayne Bennett, potentially effective immediately.
NRL.com understands Cleary could be granted a release to join Penrith in 2019 as the Tigers ramp up discussions with Bennett about coaching the club from as early as next season.
It is understood the Tigers are willing to release Cleary in the coming days, with club officials of the view his position is almost untenable, but they are working through delicate negotiations with Bennett before signing off on their coach's release from the final two years of his deal.
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Cleary has already committed to the Panthers for three years from the 2021 season.
Bennett still has another year to run at Brisbane, however the Broncos could be willing to part ways with the wily coach after recently informing him that his services wouldn't be required at Red Hill beyond the end of 2019.
The Australian reported on Wednesday that Bennett had expressed interest in the Tigers job. NRL.com understands matters have progressed a lot further this week.
Cleary's potential release from the Tigers would then result in him inking a five-year deal with the Panthers to coach the team which includes his son until at least 2023.
The Tigers have attracted interest from several coaches, including Bennett and Michael Maguire - a reflection of how far the club has come despite modest facilities and a lack of success on the field.
One of the sticking points in discussions with Bennett will revolve around money, with Bennett likely to have to take a substantial pay cut on a deal that is likely to be well less than a million dollars a year.
Given some of the criticism of Bennett in recent years, there's a feeling he may be willing to take a pay cut to still prove he has what it takes to lead a team to premiership glory.
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The Tigers return to pre-season training on November 1, while Cleary is believed to be heading on an overseas trip with his family to Bali on Sunday.
Bennett will also be away with the English team for an international series against New Zealand in the United Kingdom later this month.
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett.
©Jason O'Brien/NRL Photos
NRL.com revealed in August that the Panthers were interested in Cleary returning to the club three years after he was sacked by executive general manager Phil Gould.
Nathan Cleary, after playing a leading hand in the Blues' State of Origin series win in his first appearances in a NSW jersey, is considered the cornerstone of the Penrith franchise.
After extending his deal at the Panthers until the end of 2024 recently, the goal-kicking halfback told NRL.com his new contract had "nothing to do with my old man".
"I was happy to make the decision by myself. What happens in the future with dad is out of my control. I don't think I ever thought I was going to leave even with what was going on. I always thought I would stay and it would all work itself out eventually and yeah it did. This is a real happy place to be in at the moment."
Tiger_Steve
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Mate I’m telling you now, I’m going to make it my personal mission to front this bloke face to face and tell him what a hypocrite he is. This jerk convinced players to move countries to buy in to his dream. He sold a rebuild dream to everyone and nicks off at first chance. Man, I’ve been annoyed and disappointed before by Tigers but this takes the cake. Ivan Cleary is the worst Tiger ever to represent this club.
Coasttiger
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#offthebus
