New idea for Salary Cap.

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by weststigers » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:09 pm
Tiger Watto wrote:
TheSunTanSuperman wrote:
Smith and Cronk are Brisbane juniors. Inglis is a Newcastle junior and Brett White is a Dragons junior. The fact that Melbourne cheated to keep these 'superstars' bloody well means they should be forced to get rid of them. There are rules for every side and I am sick to death of people trying to use "the growth of the game" as a reason for the Storm to not be punished.
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The point is they all came through Melbournes feeder team Norths Devils as 'juniors'. My main point is teams should not be punished for developing juniors into NRL Stars. This is why the current Salary Cap structure MUST change…
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Can you really call the Norths Devils Melbourne juniors? They are effectively just poaching QLD talent under the guise of a feeder team aren't they? Regardless, you only give the Storm as an example. What about other teams?

They are still identifying the Talent at a young age and spending money on them. I was lucky to be in a discussion with some of the Bronco development people a few years backs and we discussed Shaun Berrigans development. The discussion involved Shaun as a junior for Wests in Brisbane and how Shaun was identified as young as 12\. Brisbane financed him through the last years of his schooling and junior football and after a few sums, it was estimated Brisbane spent up to $200'000 once you factored in all the Salaries etc. Another player I know personally was a young kid could Jamie Day. The Broncos spotted him in Under 19's for Brisbane Easts. (I spotted him playing for a local pub team as a 16 year old and bought him to Easts) At this stage, the ARL still had the Under 21 program running and Jamie spent 3 years at Brisbane. Throughout this period, Jamie snapped 2 ACL's but was still funded on a Base Salary plus medical costs. Jamie didnt play at the Top Level for Brisbane but did play 3 years at the Gold Coast on an upgraded contract.

If you look at both these two cases, the Broncos invested up to $300k on 2 juniors. One went on to play for Australia, but was squeezed out due to the Salary Cap and the other went on to Play 3 years at the old Gold Coast on the training, rehab and development that Brisbane spent thier money on. Who is the loser here?

As a answer to your question, Brisbane and the Titans develops well at the junior level. They invest a fair bit of money into Acadamy Programs through the Queensland Schools and various clubs. Why should they be punsished and have to supply clubs like the Roosters thier talent???
 
New salary cap plan
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* By Phil Rothfield
* From: The Sunday Telegraph
* May 01, 2010 11:39PM
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Salary Cap cash
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Cap plan … with the new cap plan in place clubs would have money to retain youngsters, keep players from swapping codes - and lure others back. Source: The Sunday Telegraph
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THE NRL has indicated it may introduce salary cap discounts for players with more than five years service at one club next season - but it still wouldn't prevent Melbourne Storm from breaking the cap by over $400,000 with their current roster. A concession system that would kick in once a player has spent five seasons at one club would provide discounts of up to 50 per cent on contracts, reward loyalty and encourage clubs to develop players.
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NRL boss David Gallop last night said he would welcome discussions on improving the cap, saying: "The current system is not fool proof and we are open to looking at it. Maybe it's something we could consider doing rather than just raising the cap next time."
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Under The Sunday Telegraph plan, clubs would get a discount of 10 per cent on five-year players, 20 per cent on seven-year players and 50 per cent on 10-year stalwarts.
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STORM CRISIS
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UNDER a discount system, Melbourne Storm would still be over the cap by $425,000 on our estimates of current player salaries.
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Coach Craig Bellamy would have to offload two players worth a total of $425,000 instead of four players worth the $850,000 that they are over the cap right now.
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The club would get $120,000 discounts on superstars Billy Slater and Cameron Smith. Ryan Hoffman and Greg Inglis would also get $60,000 discounts for long service and it would effectively silence the critics who have been blaming the system for the Storm's blatant cheating.
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CLUB STALWARTS
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UNDER this system, two legends of the game would not have been lost to the English Super League at the end of the 2008 season.
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The Sea Eagles could have retained Steve Menzies and the Knights could have kept Danny Buderus.
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Both could have been paid what they are earning in England - $400,000 a season - with their NRL club only paying half by registering them in the cap for $200,000 a season.
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The rest of their money could be picked up by someone like mining magnate Nathan Tinkler in the Knights' case and Max Delmege or a sponsor in Manly's case.
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Corey Hughes would never have left the Bulldogs to play his final season at Cronulla because he would have had a 50 per cent discount in the cap.
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"Corey played over 200 first-grade games across 12 seasons at the Bulldogs," said CEO Todd Greenberg. "He was a local junior, the heart and soul of the club and adored by his team-mates.
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"In a perfect world for both the club and the player he would have finished his career in the blue and white jersey."
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Parramatta would also be able to retain players like Eric Grothe, Feleti Mateo and Krisnan Inu because Luke Burt, Nathan Hindmarsh and Nathan Cayless would all be entitled to 50 per cent discounts.
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SAFEGUARD
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OBVIOUSLY overall player payments would rise, but to prevent clubs from going broke by outlaying too much money on long-serving stars, they would be limited to spending $300,000 in discounts.
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Anything extra would have to come from club sponsors in third-party agreements.
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CODE SWITCHERS
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A PLAYER like Storm star Billy Slater would be unlikely to jump ship to play AFL or rugby union. He could earn $700,000 in rugby league from the Storm and sponsors but go into the cap at only $560,000.
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To a lesser extent, it would also help keep Israel Folau and Johnathan Thurston because their clubs would have money available from what they saved on discounts for others.
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ROOKIES
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THE onus would be on clubs to either develop their own juniors or put the right recruitment and talent identification programs in place.
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Clubs like the Roosters, with a tiny junior league, would want to sign more players like hooker Jake Friend, who they plucked from Queensland's Sunshine Coast at the age of 16 and then nurtured into a first-grade player.
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By the time he is in his mid-20s, the Roosters would get a 20 per cent discount as a reward for putting so much coaching and preparation into his career.
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DAVID GALLOP
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NRL boss David Gallop said a similar plan put twice by Broncos boss Bruno Cullen to chief executive conferences did not get enough support to warrant taking it any further. "Clubs have rejected concessions in the past in favour of straight increases on the cap that are equally available to every club and allow each club to decide whether to keep experienced players or buy players, depending on their roster," he said.
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"Concessions are increases in the club spend and many clubs have said they are not able to afford increases while the gap between the cap and the grant remains quite large - at the moment it's $4.2m versus $3.35m.
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"But all this is open to debate among the clubs."

I've only been saying for the last 5 years that the NRL should do something like this.
 
In Robbie Farah's column in mx last Friday, he had an interesting proposal for the salary cap. Clubs could pay their players whatever they wanted, but any amount above the cap would incur a penalty payment to the NRL. This penalty would then be shared by the other 15 clubs.

So if Melbourne paid $850k over the $4.1m limit, that is fine, but they would have to pay a further $850k to the NRL, who then give $57k to the other 15 clubs.

This would allow clubs to spend however much they want, but would also help the poorer clubs to stay in the competition. However, it does not address the problem of clubs hiding how much they really spend, and would possibly help to hide any overpayment.
 
The easiest way to stop the drain of top players from the NRL is to pay rep players for playing state of origin and test matches. These games are massive earners for rugby league. If the players got their fair share of revenue, they wouldn't have to go to union to chase the cash!
 

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