Leroy_The_Tigers_Fan
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I hope the Meriton sponsorship logo holds up better on the NRL jumper in 2011 than the logo on last years NYC jersey, looked like they had played in the jumper for a couple of seasons and the logo washed out.
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@scott2478 said:@PrattenParkMagpie said:Many look at the WT colours as gold and black, the white is lost for many and by having a predominantly white jersey the club can better get across that the colours of the Wests Tigers are gold, black and white, to highlight the Wests Tigers identity they had to get away from having a predominantly gold (orange) jersey and a predominantly black jersey as these two colours are still perceived as being Balmain by some, and using white as the dominant colour on one does this.
I never quite understood the view (and arguments) of some that it was the 'gold' colour and not the 'orange' colour for the Wests Tigers. I always saw it as orange/black (Balmain Tigers) and white/black (Western Suburbs Magpies); hence orange/black/white (Wests Tigers). Humphreys is quoted as saying its 'orange'… “With this in mind, our 2011 jerseys are bold and highlight the properties that we do not share with any other club – the tiger pattern and the colour orange”. That will probably ignite the argument again...
Anyway, the jersey designs are growing on me as well; however I actually prefer the orange that was on the 'leaked jerseys' better. It seemed lighter and suited it well; whereas the orange they have gone for appears to be (dare i say it) a dark fluoro orange...
@PrattenParkMagpie said:@scott2478 said:@PrattenParkMagpie said:Many look at the WT colours as gold and black, the white is lost for many and by having a predominantly white jersey the club can better get across that the colours of the Wests Tigers are gold, black and white, to highlight the Wests Tigers identity they had to get away from having a predominantly gold (orange) jersey and a predominantly black jersey as these two colours are still perceived as being Balmain by some, and using white as the dominant colour on one does this.
I never quite understood the view (and arguments) of some that it was the 'gold' colour and not the 'orange' colour for the Wests Tigers. I always saw it as orange/black (Balmain Tigers) and white/black (Western Suburbs Magpies); hence orange/black/white (Wests Tigers). Humphreys is quoted as saying its 'orange'… “With this in mind, our 2011 jerseys are bold and highlight the properties that we do not share with any other club – the tiger pattern and the colour orange”. That will probably ignite the argument again...
Anyway, the jersey designs are growing on me as well; however I actually prefer the orange that was on the 'leaked jerseys' better. It seemed lighter and suited it well; whereas the orange they have gone for appears to be (dare i say it) a dark fluoro orange...
Just a bit of history on the Balmain and Western Suburbs colours, the original Balmain colours of gold and black didn’t originated from the tiger but from a particular variety of wattle tree that were abundant in the area at the time, the gold from the wattle flowers and the black from the foliage (yes the leaves are actually a dark green but they appeared to the eye as a shade of black from a distance), hence why their colours were referred to as gold (of the Wattle) rather than Orange (of the Tiger).. most clubs didnt start adopting official animal logos and mascots until around the late 20’s / early 30's.
Western Suburbs were known by a variety of different names before they adopted the Magpie sometime around 1930, some of their early names were the Cherry Pickers and later for a time the Fruit Pickers, Ashfield and surrounding areas were primarily an orchard and fruit growing region in the early 1900’s and many of the players were actually fruit pickers and their colours of Black and White were adopted from the Ashfield 2nd Division Rugby side where many of the clubs original players came from.
Balmain I think were known as the Harboursiders, North Sydney the Shoremen and St George were the Blood and Bandages in their early years before they became the Dragons (their jersey had red and white horizontal hoops, hence the blood and bandages), the short lived Cumberland side who many believe were an early Parramatta side were in fact located in the Burwood-Homebush area and formed from players from the Western Suburbs Rugby Union side who had refused to affiliate with the newly formed Western Suburbs Rugby League club at the time (hence why Wests chose the Black and White colours of the Ashfield Rugby side instead of the bottle green colours of the Wests RU club), Cumberland chose the colours of Blue and Gold that Parramatta later adopted as theirs in 1947 (however that is the only similarity between the two sides), Cumberland merged with Wests in 1909 and were known as the Fruit Pickers in their only season,
if history hadn’t happened the way it did in 1908/09 Wests Tigers might be wearing Orange, Black and Bottle Green…
@redemption said:@prattenpark said:**ps. the white jersey brings back memories of the 70's to me, when wests would occasionally don the white jersey with black V**.
Wests wore the white with black V as their alternate throughout most of the 80s & 90s as well (along with those LG ones that had a trianglular patch of horizontal stripes on one side of the abdomen in conjunction with the V above)!
@Knuckles said:My recollection of Wests using the white strip was in the pre-season WD & HO Wills competition in the late 70's. Games were played mainly at night time and the lighting at Lidcombe Oval wasn't good hence the wearing of the white jumper.
It was also used in hot weather early in the season and occasionally when we were in the semi finals in September.
@Citizen Tiger said:The Balmain Rugby Union Club was founded in 1873\. The Balmain Rugby League Club adopted their colours of black and gold, represented by horizontal stripes, in 1908\. The Rugby League Club chose a logo of a football, with a Tiger one one side and a Kangaroo on the other. How the Union club came to use the colours in the first place is a matter of conjecture, although a publication by Sydney University (Australia's oldest Rugby Club - Founded 1863) suggests that some of Balmain Rugby's early benefactors were wealthy English immigrants, who had arrived in NSW via India, where many had made their fortunes. Having seen the magnificence of the Tiger first hand, they thought it natural to adopt it's colours for their Rugby team.
That's all quite plausible and logical, methinks that the appearance of Blackwattle Bay at sunset or a singlet worn by a local rower might just be convenient local myths, designed to put distance between the codes
The Club gravitated to an orange version of the jersey in either 1967 or 68', after some difficult issues with the existing gold, which was proving not to be particularly colourfast. **The jersies in those days were 100% cotton** and had to be heavily laundered sometimes, in order to shift dirt and mud. I believe the Club changed suppliers and to insure themselves in case of problems re-occurring, chose a shade of gold that was somewhat darker.
@innsaneink said:@Knuckles said:My recollection of Wests using the white strip was in the pre-season WD & HO Wills competition in the late 70's. Games were played mainly at night time and the lighting at Lidcombe Oval wasn't good hence the wearing of the white jumper.
It was also used in hot weather early in the season and occasionally when we were in the semi finals in September.
One of if not the first tru alternate jerseys produced….was really only Wests Manly & Parra had true reversed alternates- dunno whos was first.
I remember as a kid first time I saw them in em was amazing, wanted one so bad - never got one
@innsaneink said:@Knuckles said:My recollection of Wests using the white strip was in the pre-season WD & HO Wills competition in the late 70's. Games were played mainly at night time and the lighting at Lidcombe Oval wasn't good hence the wearing of the white jumper.
It was also used in hot weather early in the season and occasionally when we were in the semi finals in September.
One of if not the first tru alternate jerseys produced….was really only Wests Manly & Parra had true reversed alternates- dunno whos was first.
I remember as a kid first time I saw them in em was amazing, wanted one so bad - never got one
@Geo. said:@innsaneink said:@Knuckles said:My recollection of Wests using the white strip was in the pre-season WD & HO Wills competition in the late 70's. Games were played mainly at night time and the lighting at Lidcombe Oval wasn't good hence the wearing of the white jumper.
It was also used in hot weather early in the season and occasionally when we were in the semi finals in September.
One of if not the first tru alternate jerseys produced….was really only Wests Manly & Parra had true reversed alternates- dunno whos was first.
I remember as a kid first time I saw them in em was amazing, wanted one so bad - never got one
Ummm better not,,
but Yeah u r right if my memory serves..
When did wests first use the white strip thought it was 70's early 80's??????
@Geo. said:Ummm better not,,
but Yeah u r right if my memory serves..
When did wests first use the white strip thought it was 70's early 80's??????
@redemption said:@Citizen Tiger said:The Balmain Rugby Union Club was founded in 1873\. The Balmain Rugby League Club adopted their colours of black and gold, represented by horizontal stripes, in 1908\. The Rugby League Club chose a logo of a football, with a Tiger one one side and a Kangaroo on the other. How the Union club came to use the colours in the first place is a matter of conjecture, although a publication by Sydney University (Australia's oldest Rugby Club - Founded 1863) suggests that some of Balmain Rugby's early benefactors were wealthy English immigrants, who had arrived in NSW via India, where many had made their fortunes. Having seen the magnificence of the Tiger first hand, they thought it natural to adopt it's colours for their Rugby team.
That's all quite plausible and logical, methinks that the appearance of Blackwattle Bay at sunset or a singlet worn by a local rower might just be convenient local myths, designed to put distance between the codes
The Club gravitated to an orange version of the jersey in either 1967 or 68', after some difficult issues with the existing gold, which was proving not to be particularly colourfast. **The jersies in those days were 100% cotton** and had to be heavily laundered sometimes, in order to shift dirt and mud. I believe the Club changed suppliers and to insure themselves in case of problems re-occurring, chose a shade of gold that was somewhat darker.
There was a clear local link between Balmain RFLC & our RU counterpart - and colours are part of that! But the colours were adopted by the then Watersiders under a the pretence of the wattles on the bayside waterline - why question it now???
PS - In 1999 - Balmain still wore 90% cotton Canterbury-brand jerseys - dyeing them gold/orange was never an issue!!!
Also - why choose a "somewhat darker" gold that would only be less recognisable in the mud (i.e. is yellow or orange easier to see in a green/brown environment)???
It makes F-All sense Citizen!