New jerseys confirmed, Harry is back!

[Kul]

Citizen Tiger, thanks for such a great history lesson, I'm a kid from the late 60's early 70's and I can remember that by the end of the season most players from all clubs had their jerseys in all states of disrepair, the forwards jerseys and socks would be faded after repeated attempts to keep them clean while the wingers jumpers were pristine.
In recent years Rusty at the Bunnies tried to make a big deal out of the half a rabbitoh emblem that Satts wore in the 1970 grand final, the simple fact there was that not all clubs could come up with new jumpers even for a Grand Final.
I still remember the first Balmain jumper I bought as a kid, out here in the bush we didn't have the luxury of a Sports Store at the time and a country rep from one of the major Sydney stores used to do the rounds at all the schools and in 1970 guess what a heap of kids here at West Bathurst Public bought, optional extras were the numbers and the most important thing the emblem.
As a cash strapped family at the time it took me a few years until I could afford the Tigers emblem but what I remember most from my first ever Balmain jumper was it lasted from the ages of 10 right up till I was 18 or 19 before it bit the dust, those old jumpers were designed to last.
In the years 1995 through to 1999 the Tigers were somewhat dinosaurs with their jumpers, everyone else had gone to the acrylic/polyester type jerseys and we were still in the old heavy almost woolen jumpers, no wonder we were battlers couldn't even afford the modern trend.

I second that

excellent, excellent read!

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Citizen Tiger, thanks for such a great history lesson, I'm a kid from the late 60's early 70's and I can remember that by the end of the season most players from all clubs had their jerseys in all states of disrepair, the forwards jerseys and socks would be faded after repeated attempts to keep them clean while the wingers jumpers were pristine.
In recent years Rusty at the Bunnies tried to make a big deal out of the half a rabbitoh emblem that Satts wore in the 1970 grand final, the simple fact there was that not all clubs could come up with new jumpers even for a Grand Final.
I still remember the first Balmain jumper I bought as a kid, out here in the bush we didn't have the luxury of a Sports Store at the time and a country rep from one of the major Sydney stores used to do the rounds at all the schools and in 1970 guess what a heap of kids here at West Bathurst Public bought, optional extras were the numbers and the most important thing the emblem.
As a cash strapped family at the time it took me a few years until I could afford the Tigers emblem but what I remember most from my first ever Balmain jumper was it lasted from the ages of 10 right up till I was 18 or 19 before it bit the dust, those old jumpers were designed to last.
In the years 1995 through to 1999 the Tigers were somewhat dinosaurs with their jumpers, everyone else had gone to the acrylic/polyester type jerseys and we were still in the old heavy almost woolen jumpers, no wonder we were battlers couldn't even afford the modern trend.

I got my first Balmain jumper when I was 14 and by jingos I've still got the bloody thing. Couldn't buy it with a Tigers sew on emblem either in those days and wasn't until the mid nineties that I happened to find one at Goodfellows at St Peters. I had Keith Barnes sign it and one of these days I'll find a frame to put it in.

Speaking of faded kit, do you remember that the epitome of 'cool' was to have the most faded footy shorts? Paul Cross and Peter Boulton are two blokes that come to mind. Check out the 1969 GF team photo, Boulton and Terry Parker are in the front row with their well worn shorts! Bob Smithies has his elasticised waistband folded over, I imagine to make the shorts even shorter….lol Sad that RL consigned cotton shorts to history many years in favour of those bloody dreadful synthetic numbers. Cotton is still in use amongst most senior and junior Rugby clubs though and having the most faded duds is still considered outstandingly cool :slight_smile:

 

[Balmain_Bug]

they want to get away from the past (move forward, own identity, yada yada, etc) yet the primary jersey is an orange jersey with a black v, lol.

This is my exact point. Stephen Humphries made a fool of himself. That is the most Balmain orientated jersey the Wests Tigers have ever had and yet he tries to pull the wool over peoples eyes and claim he is getting away from that. What rubbish. Give me a black jersey with a white V you fool.

The bloke has done a good job in securing a front jersey sponsor but he couldn't lie straight in bed.

 

[innsaneink]

If you managed to get a jersey in those days it was very very very special, the most common form of supporter apparel were rosettes and nannas crocheted scarves & beanies.
I went to Ashfield BHS and the Wests Leagues next door would donate their old jerseys to the school. The school RU teams would often run out in Magpie jumpers that were once black & white but over time the black would fade to a purpley grey, those that werent pinched had numbers and logos removed. They usually didnt fit real well either, mens jumpers worn by kids, you either tucked the jersy that came down to your knees into your shorts and ran around in what felt like a table cloth in there, or left it untucked…skirt like

 

[westTAHger]

the introduction of new jerseys, brings a difference of opinions.
some like them, some don't.
never going to be able to please, all of people all of the time.
I do not care what type of jerseys are worn.
**the jerseys represent the team we follow and that is wests-tigers.**

 

[boonboon]

I agree I am not a supporter of either Balmain or Wests anymore but of the Wests Tigers - These jerseys don't represent two sides they represent just wests tigers home and away - They are our Jerseys therefore our colours

 

[Spartan117]

Bring Back Sydney Tigers!!

 

[Balmain_Bug]

If you managed to get a jersey in those days it was very very very special, the most common form of supporter apparel were rosettes and nannas crocheted scarves & beanies.
I went to Ashfield BHS and the Wests Leagues next door would donate their old jerseys to the school. The school RU teams would often run out in Magpie jumpers that were once black & white but over time the black would fade to a purpley grey, those that werent pinched had numbers and logos removed. They usually didnt fit real well either, mens jumpers worn by kids, you either tucked the jersy that came down to your knees into your shorts and ran around in what felt like a table cloth in there, or left it untucked…skirt like

Ashfield BHS ?? Rock On Dude . Angus and Malcolm. :righton:

 

[galahs]

The first occasion I remember them using the White with Black V was against Manly in Round 13 on June 15, 1975 at Lidcombe Oval, Wests won 18-0

On the Magpies Forum someone claims that in 1974 they ran out in the 2nd half of a game against Easts in the Alternate jersey
http://s9.zetaboards.com/Wests_Magpies_Forum/single/?p=38796&t=499055" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[prattenpark]

Sid Fagan's site http://www.rl1908.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has some interesting conjecture on the origins of club colurs and nicknames. It's pretty well accepted that most clubs adopted the clubs of the union team from which they were formed, simply because jerseys were made in the UK and orders took over 3 months to arrive.

He has an overall discussion here: http://www.rl1908.com/clubcomps/origins.htm, - he sugests that the black and gold of the Balmain District union team stemmed from the demise of the Wallaroos, a rugby team that wore black, red and gold. norths taking the red and black and balmain black and gold.

There are individual histories of each team at the bottom of this page here: http://www.rl1908.com/premiership.htm

how souths became the rabbits is a mystery too: i'd always heard the 'romantic' tale of players selling rabbits on cleveland st to make ends meat. hagan suggests it may also have been derogatory as redfern oval was a terrible ground full of rabbit holes. lol. and was the waratah called the red fern and hence the green and red?

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Sid Fagan's site http://www.rl1908.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has some interesting conjecture on the origins of club colurs and nicknames. It's pretty well accepted that most clubs adopted the clubs of the union team from which they were formed, simply because jerseys were made in the UK and orders took over 3 months to arrive.

He has an overall discussion here: http://www.rl1908.com/clubcomps/origins.htm, - he sugests that the black and gold of the Balmain District union team stemmed from the demise of the Wallaroos, a rugby team that wore black, red and gold. norths taking the red and black and balmain black and gold.

There are individual histories of each team at the bottom of this page here: http://www.rl1908.com/premiership.htm

how souths became the rabbits is a mystery too: i'd always heard the 'romantic' tale of players selling rabbits on cleveland st to make ends meat. hagan suggests it may also have been derogatory as redfern oval was a terrible ground full of rabbit holes. lol. and was the waratah called the red fern and hence the green and red?

It's an interesting site for a browse, but Sean Fagan has a habit of creating folklore where none existed previously. His recent account of Balmain's triumph in the 69' GF is a good example of that. Suggesting that Balmain 'laid down' to win that game or indeed to suggest that the Tigers win was the 'biggest upset' in the history of the game, reflects little understanding of that particular season and the Tiger's consistency.

It''s important to keep in mind that he prefaces the first article you refer to with 'much of what follows hereunder is speculation'. Yeah bloody oath it's speculation, complimented with a fair dose of untruths. Balmain RU club was not founded in 1900, it was founded in 1873 and according to the Rugby archives at Sydney Uni and the book 'Men in Scarlet' (Drummoyne history), wore the colours of black and gold from inception. Fagan's assertion that they added a 'gold band' to a black jersey in 1900 is ridiculous. At least he manages to acknowledge that the RU club had no connection with a Tiger, rather they wore a large 'B' within a shield emblem. The Tiger was created by the RL club in 1908, pity that no artwork seems to exist anymore, apparently the emblem was a football, supported by a Tiger and a Roo

 

[Juro]

All this talk about moving the jersey away from Balmain Tigers and Wests Magpies' jerseys is totally ridiculous. The Wests Tigers colours are black, white and orange. The designers can come up with any jersey they like, and as long as it has the Wests Tigers logo (and isn't a direct copy of a Balmain or Magpies jersey), it is for the Wests Tigers.

Time alone can move us forward as the Wests Tigers. Every year, Wests Tigers adds another year of its own history, and Balmain and the Magpies slips one year further back into our memories. Can you imagine in 40 years' time, people still going on about Balmain vs Wests for who is getting the short end of the stick? God, I hope not. We are all WESTS TIGERS!!

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

All this talk about moving the jersey away from Balmain Tigers and Wests Magpies' jerseys is totally ridiculous. The Wests Tigers colours are black, white and orange. The designers can come up with any jersey they like, and as long as it has the Wests Tigers logo (and isn't a direct copy of a Balmain or Magpies jersey), it is for the Wests Tigers.

Time alone can move us forward as the Wests Tigers. Every year, Wests Tigers adds another year of its own history, and Balmain and the Magpies slips one year further back into our memories. Can you imagine in 40 years' time, people still going on about Balmain vs Wests for who is getting the short end of the stick? God, I hope not. We are all WESTS TIGERS!!

It's interesting that you mention the logo. isn't it a plain rip off of some 3rd rate American football team?

http://www.centralfloridatigers.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1154161" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Long overdue for a redesign, with most fans appreciating I'm sure, an original approach this time around

 

[Icon]

All this talk about moving the jersey away from Balmain Tigers and Wests Magpies' jerseys is totally ridiculous. The Wests Tigers colours are black, white and orange. The designers can come up with any jersey they like, and as long as it has the Wests Tigers logo (and isn't a direct copy of a Balmain or Magpies jersey), it is for the Wests Tigers.

Time alone can move us forward as the Wests Tigers. Every year, Wests Tigers adds another year of its own history, and Balmain and the Magpies slips one year further back into our memories. Can you imagine in 40 years' time, people still going on about Balmain vs Wests for who is getting the short end of the stick? God, I hope not. We are all WESTS TIGERS!!

It's interesting that you mention the logo. isn't it a plain rip off of some 3rd rate American football team?

http://www.centralfloridatigers.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1154161" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Long overdue for a redesign, with most fans appreciating I'm sure, an original approach this time around

Holy crap, they're the same. Any chance they ripped it of us?

 

[Joel Helmes]

Don't mess with the emblem, we are building traditions and if it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[scott2478]

All this talk about moving the jersey away from Balmain Tigers and Wests Magpies' jerseys is totally ridiculous. The Wests Tigers colours are black, white and orange. The designers can come up with any jersey they like, and as long as it has the Wests Tigers logo (and isn't a direct copy of a Balmain or Magpies jersey), it is for the Wests Tigers.

Time alone can move us forward as the Wests Tigers. Every year, Wests Tigers adds another year of its own history, and Balmain and the Magpies slips one year further back into our memories. Can you imagine in 40 years' time, people still going on about Balmain vs Wests for who is getting the short end of the stick? God, I hope not. We are all WESTS TIGERS!!

It's interesting that you mention the logo. isn't it a plain rip off of some 3rd rate American football team?

http://www.centralfloridatigers.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1154161" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Long overdue for a redesign, with most fans appreciating I'm sure, an original approach this time around

Holy crap, they're the same. Any chance they ripped it of us?

If I am reading right, this page seems to suggest they are a fairly new organisation (2 years old): http://www.centralfloridatigers.com/aboutus.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't seem to find any further history of them… so it seems they are ripping us off. I wonder if the Wests Tigers are aware of this...

EDIT - Upon further searching it would appear as though the Central Florida Tigers and Wests Tigers would have copied the logo from the Streetsville Tigers Hockey Club in Canada.

 

[innsaneink]

The logo we use was used before we existed in the states somewhere, in a similar form…but then again everything is a copy or ''rip off'' of something else, wether it be blatant or just the inspiration a designer gathers, he always gets that inspiration from ''somewhere''

The 69 lie down isnt just 'one mans theory', its common knowledge

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Don't mess with the emblem, we are building traditions and if it ain't broke don't fix it.

You build tradition on your uniqueness and your differences, not on a blatant cut n' paste of someone else's identity. The Balmain Tiger was original and the Magpie that is represented on the sleeve is also. I'm fairly certain that the straight copy of the Florida Tigers emblem was known to quite a few people in the year 2000, I seem to remember it being discussed on the forums of the time. I'm surprised that we still have this logo and I'm convinced that a lot of fans don't have any connection with it. Think about it for long enough and you'll find yourself getting very angry. The emblem is not worthy of the club

 

[innsaneink]

If you managed to get a jersey in those days it was very very very special, the most common form of supporter apparel were rosettes and nannas crocheted scarves & beanies.
I went to Ashfield BHS and the Wests Leagues next door would donate their old jerseys to the school. The school RU teams would often run out in Magpie jumpers that were once black & white but over time the black would fade to a purpley grey, those that werent pinched had numbers and logos removed. They usually didnt fit real well either, mens jumpers worn by kids, you either tucked the jersy that came down to your knees into your shorts and ran around in what felt like a table cloth in there, or left it untucked…skirt like

Ashfield BHS ?? Rock On Dude . Angus and Malcolm. :righton:

Yeah, they lived in Burleigh st Burwood, just down from the cop shop/courthouse…. :laughing:

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

The logo we use was used before we existed in the states somewhere, in a similar form…but then again everything is a copy or ''rip off'' of something else, wether it be blatant or just the inspiration a designer gathers, he always gets that inspiration from ''somewhere''

The 69 lie down isnt just 'one mans theory', its common knowledge

Common knowledge? Right, attend the 69'GF did you? Got the entire game on tape? Or is it because the Telegraph said so?