New Zealand? That's in NSW

GNR4LIFE

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Looks like Buzz is taking the attitude of if you can't beat em, join em.

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NSW are struggling to find a great halfback and hooker for the must-win State of Origin game in Melbourne on June 17.

We’ve lost Robbie Farah through injury and Trent Hodkinson has been in poor form all year.

So why can’t we pick Isaac Luke at hooker and Kieren Foran at halfback or five-eighth?

Why can’t we also pick Penrith’s Dallin Watene-Zelezniak on the left wing instead of Daniel Tupou, remembering this is supposed to be the game’s ultimate footy contest?

Obviously because the selection eligibility rules won’t allow us to.

The trouble is these rules were put in place 35 years ago, apart from a few recent changes.

Foran (Asquith Magpies), Luke (Bulldogs, Jersey Flegg) and Watene-Zelezniak (St Clair Comets) all played their junior football in our state. Yet they can’t play Origin.

At the same time Tyson Frizell, with his Tongan heritage, has played for Wales but IS available for the Blues.

Yet Martin Taupau, the blockbusting Wests Tigers back-rower who is a Greenacre Tigers/Padstow Panthers junior, can’t. How does this make sense?

When Origin first started in 1980 we had few Polynesian players in the competition.

Now they make up more than 38 per cent of players in the NRL.

What that means is Origin is no longer a contest between the best 34 players in the competition. It’s the best of about 60 per cent of the NRL. Next year it will be 58 per cent of the competition and it will keep dropping every year.

It’s one of the reasons we had only one linebreak in 80 minutes last Wednesday night. (Plus the abysmal policing of the 10 metres).

It’s one of the reasons Game II with a 6-4 scoreline last year at ANZ was such a snooze.

I worry about the future of Origin in the next 10 years.

What will the Queensland side be like when once in a generation players Greg Inglis, Johnathan Thurston, Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater and Cameron Smith all retire?

Yes, they’ll have Daly Cherry-Evans but who else?

Why can’t the world’s most explosive forward Jason Taumalolo play for the Maroons? He is a Townsville junior.

Surely he has more right to be in a Queensland jersey than Macksville-born, bred and raised Greg Inglis.

Why hasn’t Benji Marshall ever been allowed to play Origin having come from Keebra Park High school on the Gold Coast while other Maroons like Tonie Carroll and Brad Thorn have also played for New Zealand?

We have also had the outrageous situation where players like the great Sonny Bill Williams have worn the Blues jersey at school and junior level yet are banned from Origin.

It’s one of the reasons he left our game.

Rugby league, like everything else, needs to move with the times. Origin is no exception.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/buzzwords/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/state_of_origin_2015_kieran_foran_and_issac_luke_should_be_able_to_play_for/
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Looks like Buzz is taking the attitude of if you can't beat em, join em.

….....................................................................................................

NSW are struggling to find a great halfback and hooker for the must-win State of Origin game in Melbourne on June 17.

We’ve lost Robbie Farah through injury and Trent Hodkinson has been in poor form all year.

So why can’t we pick Isaac Luke at hooker and Kieren Foran at halfback or five-eighth?

Why can’t we also pick Penrith’s Dallin Watene-Zelezniak on the left wing instead of Daniel Tupou, remembering this is supposed to be the game’s ultimate footy contest?

Obviously because the selection eligibility rules won’t allow us to.

The trouble is these rules were put in place 35 years ago, apart from a few recent changes.

Foran (Asquith Magpies), Luke (Bulldogs, Jersey Flegg) and Watene-Zelezniak (St Clair Comets) all played their junior football in our state. Yet they can’t play Origin.

At the same time Tyson Frizell, with his Tongan heritage, has played for Wales but IS available for the Blues.

Yet Martin Taupau, the blockbusting Wests Tigers back-rower who is a Greenacre Tigers/Padstow Panthers junior, can’t. How does this make sense?

When Origin first started in 1980 we had few Polynesian players in the competition.

Now they make up more than 38 per cent of players in the NRL.

What that means is Origin is no longer a contest between the best 34 players in the competition. It’s the best of about 60 per cent of the NRL. Next year it will be 58 per cent of the competition and it will keep dropping every year.

It’s one of the reasons we had only one linebreak in 80 minutes last Wednesday night. (Plus the abysmal policing of the 10 metres).

It’s one of the reasons Game II with a 6-4 scoreline last year at ANZ was such a snooze.

I worry about the future of Origin in the next 10 years.

What will the Queensland side be like when once in a generation players Greg Inglis, Johnathan Thurston, Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater and Cameron Smith all retire?

Yes, they’ll have Daly Cherry-Evans but who else?

Why can’t the world’s most explosive forward Jason Taumalolo play for the Maroons? He is a Townsville junior.

Surely he has more right to be in a Queensland jersey than Macksville-born, bred and raised Greg Inglis.

Why hasn’t Benji Marshall ever been allowed to play Origin having come from Keebra Park High school on the Gold Coast while other Maroons like Tonie Carroll and Brad Thorn have also played for New Zealand?

We have also had the outrageous situation where players like the great Sonny Bill Williams have worn the Blues jersey at school and junior level yet are banned from Origin.

It’s one of the reasons he left our game.

Rugby league, like everything else, needs to move with the times. Origin is no exception.

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/buzzwords/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/state_of_origin_2015_kieran_foran_and_issac_luke_should_be_able_to_play_for/

You need to change with the times as well Buzz

Like change planets for a starter , preferably an oxygen free one

Oh thats right , your a germ it wouldn't matter would it
 
Buzz is the cheif Sooky La La Blues supporter…

SOO was NOT designed to have the best 34 players play each other, it was designed and instigated to ensure players from either NSW or Qld can still represent their state regardless where they play club football.

Maybe Buzz should send a free copy of his DT to the NZRL (we know they cant afford to buy one) to encourage them to actually do something for the game of RL for there country? Either a North vs South or something to promote the game in NZ?

Piss off Buzz... Qld own SOO, not you sooks from NSW!

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He makes a lot of sense for once, the rules of eligibility are extremely inconsistent, much like the refereeing.
 
Someone tell Buzz they they can play for the state they grew up and played their football in.
But if they do they can't play for New Zealand.
 
So it's only New Zealand and England reps that can't play Origin, is that right? But if they represent any other country (e.g. Farah - Lebanon, Uate - Fiji) it's ok to back up for Origin? Why?
 
You can switch your allegiance Flip , and that's why this is confusing for some

To give an example recently Segeyaro has switched his allegiance from PNG to Qld
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
I worry about the future of Origin in the next 10 years.

What will the Queensland side be like when once in a generation players Greg Inglis, Johnathan Thurston, Cooper Cronk, Billy Slater and Cameron Smith all retire?

Yes, they’ll have Daly Cherry-Evans but who else?
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I would say something critical of this idiotic journalist but reality is that view is a popular one down here.

Has been for 20 years.

One day they will learn.
 
@happy tiger said:
You can switch your allegiance Flip , and that's why this is confusing for some

To give an example recently Segeyaro has switched his allegiance from PNG to Qld

I dont agree with this switching… Once they choose, I hope they show some respect for those colours for life.

I get why we allow it (obviously no one will play for fringe nations), but at some stage we need to stop it.

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@happy tiger said:
You can switch your allegiance Flip , and that's why this is confusing for some

To give an example recently Segeyaro has switched his allegiance from PNG to Qld

Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure some have still played for countries (other than Australia) in test matches at the end of the year and still played in Origin as well.
 
Roth field is an idiot. As is Gould and any other twit who thinks SOO is about the games elite squaring off. It is not and never has been about that.

We already have games where the best play the best. They're called Internationals…..
 
@Flippedy said:
@happy tiger said:
You can switch your allegiance Flip , and that's why this is confusing for some

To give an example recently Segeyaro has switched his allegiance from PNG to Qld

Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure some have still played for countries (other than Australia) in test matches at the end of the year and still played in Origin as well.

Don't quote me Flip , but I think if you don't get picked for either SOO or the Aussie or NZ you can play for sides of your immediate kin birth in a World Cup year

ie

Tedesco for Italy , McGuire for Fiji
 
@happy tiger said:
@Flippedy said:
@happy tiger said:
You can switch your allegiance Flip , and that's why this is confusing for some

To give an example recently Segeyaro has switched his allegiance from PNG to Qld

Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure some have still played for countries (other than Australia) in test matches at the end of the year and still played in Origin as well.

Don't quote me Flip , but I think if you don't get picked for either SOO or the Aussie or NZ you can play for sides of your immediate kin birth

ie

Tedesco for Italy , McGuire for Fiji

Ok so now McGuire has played in Origin does that mean he can't represent Fiji ever again?
 
@Flippedy said:
@happy tiger said:
@Flippedy said:
@happy tiger said:
You can switch your allegiance Flip , and that's why this is confusing for some

To give an example recently Segeyaro has switched his allegiance from PNG to Qld

Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure some have still played for countries (other than Australia) in test matches at the end of the year and still played in Origin as well.

Don't quote me Flip , but I think if you don't get picked for either SOO or the Aussie or NZ you can play for sides of your immediate kin birth

ie

Tedesco for Italy , McGuire for Fiji

Ok so now McGuire has played in Origin does that mean he can't represent Fiji ever again?

He can if he doesn't play SOO or get picked for Australia and its a World Cup year (I think )
 
@Flippedy said:
@happy tiger said:
@Flippedy said:
@happy tiger said:
You can switch your allegiance Flip , and that's why this is confusing for some

To give an example recently Segeyaro has switched his allegiance from PNG to Qld

Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure some have still played for countries (other than Australia) in test matches at the end of the year and still played in Origin as well.

Don't quote me Flip , but I think if you don't get picked for either SOO or the Aussie or NZ you can play for sides of your immediate kin birth

ie

Tedesco for Italy , McGuire for Fiji

Ok so now McGuire has played in Origin does that mean he can't represent Fiji ever again?

He can if he doesn't play SOO or get picked for Australia and its a World Cup year (I think )

Well see there's the problem - it's a double standard. One rule for NZ and England reps and another rule for everyone else. Rothfield is right, it's stupid.
 
McGuire plays for SAMOA..(QLD)

Buzz is a muppet…Origin is State against State...he's pushing an 'ALL-STARS' concept...
 
@happy tiger said:
The idea Flip is to try and strengthen the weaker sides for the WC

I get that Happy, but allowing Kiwi and Pom heritage players to play in Origin wouldn't affect anything on the International stage.
 
@Flippedy said:
@happy tiger said:
The idea Flip is to try and strengthen the weaker sides for the WC

I get that Happy, but allowing Kiwi and Pom heritage players to play in Origin wouldn't affect anything on the International stage.

So how do you decide who plays for who Flip ??

Sorry mate it works the way it is in my opinion
 

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