Joel Helmes
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@cktiger said:@innsaneink said:Talk about thick, and missing the point
We are cyber bullies.
Happy?
Talk about missing the point :laughing:
What's the problem? Truth hurt?
Now you resort to calling me thick , on top of other having to 'learn' me :unamused:
I'm neither thick or need to be taught anything.
If you think smart alec juvenile remarks will bully me into silence then you have picked on the wrong person - I don't get bullied by anyone in the real world , **let alone by keyboard blowhards**.
@jirskyr said:http://www.makingthenut.com/content/couch-round-26-0
Congratulations Tim Moltzen, Ben Roberts and Chris Sandow: On a weekend of high drama for the Willie M Medal, the Wests Tigers' Tim Moltzen polled two votes in the loss to Melbourne while Ben Roberts received two votes and Chris Sandow one in the final game of the year to lead to a three-way tie for the 2012 Willie M Medal.
It is Sandow's second Willie M Medal, after the Eels halfback won the inaugural award with South Sydney in 2010.
On an unprecedented weekend, the Parramatta halves duo and Wests Tigers fullback all recorded votes on the final weekend to win rugby league's most dubious honour.
Moltzen and Sandow both posted votes in 10 games, each winning four worst on ground efforts, while Roberts posted in nine games and also had four worst on ground performances.
**Moltzen played all 24 game for the Tigers and committed 17 errors and missed 44 tackles, struggling under the high ball all season while offering very little support at the back.**
Roberts was actually dropped throughout the season but managed 19 games, making the award all the more remarkable. In his first season at the Eels, he combined 24 handling errors and an average of over two missed tackles a game with a horrible kicking game, poor options and astonishingly bad defensive reads. His game against the Tigers was one of the worst ever.
Sandow, a perennial vote-getter, returned to his best in 23 games for his new club. Signed on a big-money deal, he contributed 24 errors and 5.5 missed tackles with a general disinterest in playing rugby league.
Congratulations goes out to all three as well as Tim Sheens, Stephen Kearney and Brad Arthur. Their names are now etched in history, forever linked with mediocrity, below par rugby league, stupidity, gutlessness and a general lack of ability.
Willie M Rollcall of Honour
2010: Chris Sandow (Sou)
2011: Blake Ferguson (Can)
2012: Tim Moltzen (Tig), Ben Roberts (Par), Chris Sandow (Par)
@innsaneink said:@dermo said:@innsaneink said:@dermo said:No mention of the try saving tackle he made on Widdop in the first few mins
Things a footballer are supposed to do often get overlooked when they regulalrly shirk their responsibilitys.
Players make try saving tackles every week, right down to the u/8's….its a fundamental part of the game.
What next?
Applauding him for tying his bootlaces correctly?
If theres going to be a 4 page thread on his one error all game, then you would think one of you would mention the **good things** he did but no, its the same every week, does alot of good things then one bad and the whole forum blows up. He made no **errors** (1 actually when you take into account the non attempt at the bomb) and had 1 missed tackle but the way you lot carry on you'd think he was the sole reason we lost
You just dont get how weak dogging it is, going the self preservation route instead of giving it your all for the team.
Brett Hodgson….a scrawny runt but the heart and guts of a lion.
Its not just ''**errors''**.....all players make errors
And all players do '**'good things**", things they are supposed to do on a field, but we dont talk about them, we talk about exceptional, brilliant things, because good things are a fundamental part of the game, its evident, its not necessary to discuss it
@cktiger said:@innsaneink said:Talk about thick, and missing the point
We are cyber bullies.
Happy?
Talk about missing the point :laughing:
What's the problem? Truth hurt?
Now you resort to calling me thick , on top of other having to 'learn' me :unamused:
I'm neither thick or need to be taught anything.
If you think smart alec juvenile remarks will bully me into silence then you have picked on the wrong person - I don't get bullied by anyone in the real world , let alone by keyboard blowhards.
@GNR4LIFE said:Dermo, he's only going off what Moltzen has showed on the field. You saying he hasn't earnt that tag after some of the things he's showed us this yr and last yr?
And Ck you always go on about you only defend Moltzen cos your sick of the crap he receives, not cos you worship him (which is really believable btw :laughing: ), so going on what you claim just for a second, why don't you ever defend Sheens and Blair against the same thing? they receive the same amount of crap as Moltzen and it gets just as bad (particularly in Sheens case) but you never say a word. Yet you'll defend Moltzen against every last negative word against him. Your agenda is just as obvious as the people you like to accuse
@innsaneink said:Im pretty sure that tackle was mentioned by several, I know i did, it impressed me and I can still see it in my mind…....it was a great tackle
@dermo said:@GNR4LIFE said:Dermo, he's only going off what Moltzen has showed on the field. You saying he hasn't earnt that tag after some of the things he's showed us this yr and last yr?
And Ck you always go on about you only defend Moltzen cos your sick of the crap he receives, not cos you worship him (which is really believable btw :laughing: ), so going on what you claim just for a second, why don't you ever defend Sheens and Blair against the same thing? they receive the same amount of crap as Moltzen and it gets just as bad (particularly in Sheens case) but you never say a word. Yet you'll defend Moltzen against every last negative word against him. Your agenda is just as obvious as the people you like to accuse
Not to the extent that is made out on here, he doesn't go 100% at a highball but then when we played Parra he makes a 1 v 1 tackle on a runaway Moi Moi **who tried to run right over the top of him,** to me that takes courage but you wouldn't hear a word of it from some here.
And for what its worth IMO Sheens is more to blame for our short comings this year than Moltzen
@innsaneink said:@cktiger said:@innsaneink said:Talk about thick, and missing the point
We are cyber bullies.
Happy?
Talk about missing the point :laughing:
What's the problem? Truth hurt?
Now you resort to calling me thick , on top of other having to 'learn' me :unamused:
I'm neither thick or need to be taught anything.
If you think smart alec juvenile remarks will bully me into silence then you have picked on the wrong person - I don't get bullied by anyone in the real world , let alone by keyboard blowhards.
I just agreed with you…...still not happy?
Let it go.
And you need to learn the difference between discussion, which is whats happening here....and bullying
**Such a soft generation today, the PC brigade and the leftys have a lot to answer for**
@innsaneink said:So why do you think Im bullying you?
Harden up for christs sake
Nice to see im under your skin…if my location irks you so...then LOL@ u
@cktiger said:@innsaneink said:So why do you think Im bullying you?
Harden up for christs sake
Nice to see im under your skin…if my location irks you so...then LOL@ u
Another attempt?
I need to harden up ? :roll
**You are not bullying me, ink … and don't think you ever could.**
Under my skin?
Don't give yourself so much credit.
If anything I feel sorry for you.
So why did you address this to me?
@cktiger said:If you think smart alec juvenile remarks will bully me into silence then you have picked on the wrong person - I don't get bullied by anyone in the real world