North Korea's Kim Jong-un meets South Korea's Moon Jae-in in DMZ for historic peace talks

[tsjonathan]

I think the biggest think to come out of this will be China increasing funding into their military. Korea will grow into a bigger threat and will definitely get the attention they want. I think Kim only wants peace to have access to the South.

If China grows its military the US won't be happy.

Australia's entire military relies on the US. Our economy depends on China.

Leaves us in a mess

Unfortunately mainstream media create this **unnecessary fear of North Korea or threats from Russia/China etc.** And how they are a threat because of their rise. This is a flawed logic. Yet conveniently never mention Israel or Saudi Arabia (who have an abhorrent human rights record) but because they are the US allies there is no mention.

Cicero once said " _the enemy is within the gates, is with our own luxury our own folly our own criminality with which we need to contend"_
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And then Cicero in his book mentions six mistakes mankind continually makes century anfter century (two of which applies here):
1\. _Believing personal gain is made is by crushing others_- the notion China's rise is a threat is erroneaous. Why can't we both rise together and reap the benefits with each other symbiotically?
3\. _Attempting to compel others to live as we do_ Democracy anyone?

You think the fear is unnecessary? You'd be one of the few.
And why would the media create fear about Israel or Saudi Arabia when (at present) they are on our side?

In addition, can you tell me why Israel is permitted to have over 400 nuclear war heads but North Korea is condemned for having 1/4 of that? Why isn't Iran permitted to have nuclear weapons?

I just returned from Tehran and Shiraz last winter for snowboarding and Persians are by far the most hospitable people on this planet.

 

[happy_tiger]

As you should. Oil? America will shortly be the biggest oil producer in the world . They will get along quite nicely thank you.

Uncle Sam is $23 trillion in debt mate. There's a tsunami coming for anyone under 30 int the US. It's a good time to be old if you're American. Have a look @Greece

It may not matter to you but for half my family in Arcadia CA aren't too happy their taxes are going to things like military bases and funding unnecessary wars.

America is certainly trying to be the biggest oil producer. You remember what the 1953 Iranian coup d'état was over right? Installing the Shah, BP and the Strait of Hormuz and all that…. How about Libya? Syria? I could go on and on... Get ready for blow back!

Military bases and armed forces keep many millions employed in the US

Probably one reason all of what you mention happens

And to be American and bag out your Armed Forces is like bagging the men who defended Kokoda and Villiers Brettonneux

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism

"Military bases are keeping millions employed" so by that logic then why don't the US build hundreds more bases around the world? Why don't they build one next to your home? I'm sure the US has enough money considering they are 20 trillion dollars in debt. I mean seriously look at all the blow back this has caused from Nicaragua; Iran; Congo; Vietnam; Libya etc etc. There's no two ways about it, its a catastrophe…

I am not American although I did go to high school in Glendora for 3 years. Nor did I criticise the troops. I criticise the policies of the Americans "World Police" and focus unnecessarily on topics like North Korea; Russia et al.

Can you tell me where i 'bagged' out kokoda and villiers? You're skewing my writing. Kokoda was a matter pertaining to a time where there was a threat to our civil liberties. My civil liberties are not compromised by bombing the hell out of Yemen; Afghanistan and Baghdad.

You misunderstood , I said that bagging the American Armed forces in America is almost a capital offence , as would be saying Phar Lap was a plodder

And you missed my other point , yes it cost money for bases all over the world , but adding how many to the unemployment lines does far more damage politically

I don't agree with American stand point at all , they been doing it for 60 years

Ask the poor Hungarians in , Americans dropped pamphlets telling them to free themselves from the Soviets

So the Hungarians did and were massacred by the Russians without the USA offering any help bar taking all the talented scientists as refugees etc

Americans are only worried Americans , any action they take is done with some vision down the track of something they will get back

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Yup because i feel much safer with the 900 military bases in over 70 countries.

As you should. Oil? America will shortly be the biggest oil producer in the world . They will get along quite nicely thank you.

Uncle Sam is $23 trillion in debt mate. There's a tsunami coming for anyone under 30 int the US. It's a good time to be old if you're American. Have a look @Greece

It may not matter to you but for half my family in Arcadia CA aren't too happy their taxes are going to things like military bases and funding unnecessary wars.

America is certainly trying to be the biggest oil producer. You remember what the 1953 Iranian coup d'état was over right? Installing the Shah, BP and the Strait of Hormuz and all that…. How about Libya? Syria? I could go on and on... Get ready for blow back!

California is a basket case. Stop spending money on illegal aliens.

A basket case? LMAO… Col, the US is stuffed if California ever seceded. It, is as a state of the US alone, the worlds SIXTH largest economy.

Also who is spending money on illegal aliens? They can't lob up and demand welfare if they are off the grid, they have to work to survive.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I am still unsure as to the reasons, other than oil, as to why the US are bedfellows with a third world cesspit like Saudi Arabia. They execute people there for witchcraft still. The sooner they run out of oil and have no money to export their vile brand of Islam the better.

Iran is the one stumbling block in the middle east if the Wahabbis go full retard.

 

[magpiecol]

I think the biggest think to come out of this will be China increasing funding into their military. Korea will grow into a bigger threat and will definitely get the attention they want. I think Kim only wants peace to have access to the South.

If China grows its military the US won't be happy.

Australia's entire military relies on the US. Our economy depends on China.

Leaves us in a mess

Unfortunately mainstream media create this **unnecessary fear of North Korea or threats from Russia/China etc.** And how they are a threat because of their rise. This is a flawed logic. Yet conveniently never mention Israel or Saudi Arabia (who have an abhorrent human rights record) but because they are the US allies there is no mention.

Cicero once said " _the enemy is within the gates, is with our own luxury our own folly our own criminality with which we need to contend"_
\
\
And then Cicero in his book mentions six mistakes mankind continually makes century anfter century (two of which applies here):
1\. _Believing personal gain is made is by crushing others_- the notion China's rise is a threat is erroneaous. Why can't we both rise together and reap the benefits with each other symbiotically?
3\. _Attempting to compel others to live as we do_ Democracy anyone?

You think the fear is unnecessary? You'd be one of the few.
And why would the media create fear about Israel or Saudi Arabia when (at present) they are on our side?

In addition, can you tell me why Israel is permitted to have over 400 nuclear war heads but North Korea is condemned for having 1/4 of that? Why isn't Iran permitted to have nuclear weapons?

I just returned from Tehran and Shiraz last winter for snowboarding and Persians are by far the most hospitable people on this planet.

Did you fall on your head whilst snowboarding?

It certainly sounds like it.

 

[tsjonathan]

Unfortunately mainstream media create this **unnecessary fear of North Korea or threats from Russia/China etc.** And how they are a threat because of their rise. This is a flawed logic. Yet conveniently never mention Israel or Saudi Arabia (who have an abhorrent human rights record) but because they are the US allies there is no mention.

Cicero once said " _the enemy is within the gates, is with our own luxury our own folly our own criminality with which we need to contend"_
\
\
And then Cicero in his book mentions six mistakes mankind continually makes century anfter century (two of which applies here):
1\. _Believing personal gain is made is by crushing others_- the notion China's rise is a threat is erroneaous. Why can't we both rise together and reap the benefits with each other symbiotically?
3\. _Attempting to compel others to live as we do_ Democracy anyone?

You think the fear is unnecessary? You'd be one of the few.
And why would the media create fear about Israel or Saudi Arabia when (at present) they are on our side?

In addition, can you tell me why Israel is permitted to have over 400 nuclear war heads but North Korea is condemned for having 1/4 of that? Why isn't Iran permitted to have nuclear weapons?

I just returned from Tehran and Shiraz last winter for snowboarding and Persians are by far the most hospitable people on this planet.

Did you fall on your head whilst snowboarding?

It certainly sounds like it.

You didnt answer my question re: Israel.

Why would you imply i "fell on my head"? Dizin is one of the best places off piste
Seems to me ignorance is bliss for you.

You do realise much of what you use today was created by the Persians during the Islamic golden age right? If others in the middle east like Israel have nuclear weapons then so should Iran.

You should take a trip to Iran one day Col. So mich history to learn. From Eshfahan to Shiraz and the Caspian sea…

Persians like AL-KHWARIZMI for example is the reason we use the number/digit system and why we dont use archaic mathemarics like roman numerals and the reason we can fly on planes from country to country. Algebra was named after him. Stars are 3/4 Arabic too. And al-Haytham who pioneered optics is the reason you can take photos of your loved ones. Al-Zahrawi pioneered moden medicine and surgery. Edit and i forgot about the Persian cartographer Al-Ma'mun who made the maps with which we basically still use today to see the planet.

 

[tsjonathan]

Uncle Sam is $23 trillion in debt mate. There's a tsunami coming for anyone under 30 int the US. It's a good time to be old if you're American. Have a look @Greece

It may not matter to you but for half my family in Arcadia CA aren't too happy their taxes are going to things like military bases and funding unnecessary wars.

America is certainly trying to be the biggest oil producer. You remember what the 1953 Iranian coup d'état was over right? Installing the Shah, BP and the Strait of Hormuz and all that…. How about Libya? Syria? I could go on and on... Get ready for blow back!

Military bases and armed forces keep many millions employed in the US

Probably one reason all of what you mention happens

And to be American and bag out your Armed Forces is like bagging the men who defended Kokoda and Villiers Brettonneux

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism

"Military bases are keeping millions employed" so by that logic then why don't the US build hundreds more bases around the world? Why don't they build one next to your home? I'm sure the US has enough money considering they are 20 trillion dollars in debt. I mean seriously look at all the blow back this has caused from Nicaragua; Iran; Congo; Vietnam; Libya etc etc. There's no two ways about it, its a catastrophe…

I am not American although I did go to high school in Glendora for 3 years. Nor did I criticise the troops. I criticise the policies of the Americans "World Police" and focus unnecessarily on topics like North Korea; Russia et al.

Can you tell me where i 'bagged' out kokoda and villiers? You're skewing my writing. Kokoda was a matter pertaining to a time where there was a threat to our civil liberties. My civil liberties are not compromised by bombing the hell out of Yemen; Afghanistan and Baghdad.

You misunderstood , I said that bagging the American Armed forces in America is almost a capital offence , as would be saying Phar Lap was a plodder

And you missed my other point , yes it cost money for bases all over the world , but adding how many to the unemployment lines does far more damage politically

I don't agree with American stand point at all , they been doing it for 60 years

Ask the poor Hungarians in , Americans dropped pamphlets telling them to free themselves from the Soviets

So the Hungarians did and were massacred by the Russians without the USA offering any help bar taking all the talented scientists as refugees etc

Americans are only worried Americans , any action they take is done with some vision down the track of something they will get back

Youre suggesting building military bases creates employment?

If you are then why doesnt China or Australia build some in the Phillipines, Japan, Croatia, Germany etc? Why can't China build one in Sydney? Or Colombo to create jobs?

The US foreign policy has been far far worse than the Hungarian incident. As mentioned from Yemen to Afghanistan to The congo, Iraq (who the US supported Saddam in the 1960s) to Syria and vietnam and Chile (Kissenger) to Iran to Libya to Laos to Palestine and on and on and on

You know what happened to the Romans and Gaul right when they expanded their empire?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Unfortunately mainstream media create this **unnecessary fear of North Korea or threats from Russia/China etc.** And how they are a threat because of their rise. This is a flawed logic. Yet conveniently never mention Israel or Saudi Arabia (who have an abhorrent human rights record) but because they are the US allies there is no mention.

Cicero once said " _the enemy is within the gates, is with our own luxury our own folly our own criminality with which we need to contend"_
\
\
And then Cicero in his book mentions six mistakes mankind continually makes century anfter century (two of which applies here):
1\. _Believing personal gain is made is by crushing others_- the notion China's rise is a threat is erroneaous. Why can't we both rise together and reap the benefits with each other symbiotically?
3\. _Attempting to compel others to live as we do_ Democracy anyone?

You think the fear is unnecessary? You'd be one of the few.
And why would the media create fear about Israel or Saudi Arabia when (at present) they are on our side?

In addition, can you tell me why Israel is permitted to have over 400 nuclear war heads but North Korea is condemned for having 1/4 of that? Why isn't Iran permitted to have nuclear weapons?

I just returned from Tehran and Shiraz last winter for snowboarding and Persians are by far the most hospitable people on this planet.

Did you fall on your head whilst snowboarding?

It certainly sounds like it.

Do you ever respond to anything that contradicts your opinion with anything other than ad hominem comments? Substantiate your opinion instead of making comments that someone has suffered a brain injury to have a different world view to you.

 

[Geo]

I know who has fallen on his head….....often..

 

[hobbo]

You think the fear is unnecessary? You'd be one of the few.
And why would the media create fear about Israel or Saudi Arabia when (at present) they are on our side?

In addition, can you tell me why Israel is permitted to have over 400 nuclear war heads but North Korea is condemned for having 1/4 of that? Why isn't Iran permitted to have nuclear weapons?

I just returned from Tehran and Shiraz last winter for snowboarding and Persians are by far the most hospitable people on this planet.

Did you fall on your head whilst snowboarding?

It certainly sounds like it.

Do you ever respond to anything that contradicts your opinion with anything other than ad hominem comments? Substantiate your opinion instead of making comments that someone has suffered a brain injury to have a different world view to you.

Magpiecol was the inventor of the Drive By .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

In addition, can you tell me why Israel is permitted to have over 400 nuclear war heads but North Korea is condemned for having 1/4 of that? Why isn't Iran permitted to have nuclear weapons?

I just returned from Tehran and Shiraz last winter for snowboarding and Persians are by far the most hospitable people on this planet.

Did you fall on your head whilst snowboarding?

It certainly sounds like it.

Do you ever respond to anything that contradicts your opinion with anything other than ad hominem comments? Substantiate your opinion instead of making comments that someone has suffered a brain injury to have a different world view to you.

Magpiecol was the inventor of the Drive By .

The fact that Col can't do anything other than question people's health instead of clarifying his own position suggests he is the one that struggles to think.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I know who has fallen on his head….....often..

Happy?

 

[Geo]

I know who has fallen on his head….....often..

Happy?

This is NOT FAKE NEWS… :laughing:

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Uncle Sam is $23 trillion in debt mate. There's a tsunami coming for anyone under 30 int the US. It's a good time to be old if you're American. Have a look @Greece

It may not matter to you but for half my family in Arcadia CA aren't too happy their taxes are going to things like military bases and funding unnecessary wars.

America is certainly trying to be the biggest oil producer. You remember what the 1953 Iranian coup d'état was over right? Installing the Shah, BP and the Strait of Hormuz and all that…. How about Libya? Syria? I could go on and on... Get ready for blow back!

Military bases and armed forces keep many millions employed in the US

Probably one reason all of what you mention happens

And to be American and bag out your Armed Forces is like bagging the men who defended Kokoda and Villiers Brettonneux

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism

"Military bases are keeping millions employed" so by that logic then why don't the US build hundreds more bases around the world? Why don't they build one next to your home? I'm sure the US has enough money considering they are 20 trillion dollars in debt. I mean seriously look at all the blow back this has caused from Nicaragua; Iran; Congo; Vietnam; Libya etc etc. There's no two ways about it, its a catastrophe…

I am not American although I did go to high school in Glendora for 3 years. Nor did I criticise the troops. I criticise the policies of the Americans "World Police" and focus unnecessarily on topics like North Korea; Russia et al.

Can you tell me where i 'bagged' out kokoda and villiers? You're skewing my writing. Kokoda was a matter pertaining to a time where there was a threat to our civil liberties. My civil liberties are not compromised by bombing the hell out of Yemen; Afghanistan and Baghdad.

You misunderstood , I said that bagging the American Armed forces in America is almost a capital offence , as would be saying Phar Lap was a plodder

And you missed my other point , yes it cost money for bases all over the world , but adding how many to the unemployment lines does far more damage politically

I don't agree with American stand point at all , they been doing it for 60 years

Ask the poor Hungarians in , Americans dropped pamphlets telling them to free themselves from the Soviets

So the Hungarians did and were massacred by the Russians without the USA offering any help bar taking all the talented scientists as refugees etc

Americans are only worried Americans , any action they take is done with some vision down the track of something they will get back

If there was only one good thing to come of that it was a young man by the name of Laszlo Urge immigrated to Australia and showed us all the beautiful game.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

The world has never been controlled by one power but sadly the US is trying to do it now creating massive problems ,injustices and double standards world wide.
But thankfully the dream of US world control in never going to be a reality . With Russia back on the scene as a superpower and China newly so and in the future an EU super alliance the will be much balance and it will be better for all little countries and people as well as larger ones. And since they will all be nuclear backed they won't think of trying it on as it were. Because then even the winner loses.
Great days ahead.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Russia is not a superpower, they're regional, as is China. None of them match the military industrial complex that is the US. They're important in their locality, that's about it.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

North Korea saying they may cancel meeting with US if if US demands it gives up nuclear weapons.

Little rocket man one ups Spanky McBonespurs.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Russia is not a superpower, they're regional, as is China. None of them match the military industrial complex that is the US. They're important in their locality, that's about it.

Russia is not a superpower. You must be dreaming. Last month when that facade was going on in Syria the US Ambassador to Russia John Huntsman in his own words remarked " this is not a conflict between superpowers ". They are American words.
As for regional power with 6800 nukes able to strike any corner of the earth and even space including all areas of the US and like the US with the ability to end all life on earth makes them beyond regional.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

North Korea saying they may cancel meeting with US if if US demands it gives up nuclear weapons.

Little rocket man one ups Spanky McBonespurs.

Who can blame him. After The US scrapped the Iran deal without legal justification re the treaty they are showing the world they are not to be trusted. As they done in Iraq after they gave up their weapons they invaded them leading to the deaths of over 100k people on false pretences. I guess if you were North Korea you would be careful not to give up your weapons and then get invaded. The US has a poor track record lately in these and other trade deals with so called friendly countries like Australia even sadly.
They are losing touch with many people around the world sadly.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Russia is not a superpower, they're regional, as is China. None of them match the military industrial complex that is the US. They're important in their locality, that's about it.

Russia is not a superpower. You must be dreaming. Last month when that facade was going on in Syria the US Ambassador to Russia John Huntsman in his own words remarked " this is not a conflict between superpowers ". They are American words.
As for regional power with 6800 nukes able to strike any corner of the earth and even space including all areas of the US and like the US with the ability to end all life on earth makes them beyond regional.

Fair enough, they were his words. A lot of experts disagree.

Yes they have a stupid amount of nukes, but nuclear arsenal is not all that constitutes a superpower, because if that were the case we'd need start talking about Israel, Pakistan and India in the same terms. Their economy is shot, they don't have a global reach in terms of influence (they really only exert influence over their own backyard and the middle east,) and all they do at the minute is throw spanners in the US strategic policy (which I am not against, just to clarify.)

If anything, Russia don't look as though they want to appear or act as one, merely temper US influence.