NRL 360

@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.
 
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?
 
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395695) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?

Maybe Vossy
 
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395700) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395695) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?

Maybe Vossy

God no
 
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395695) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?

I hate how some of these jokers can get gigs yet be involved with NRL clubs.

Parker is so biased with all Brisbane related issues.
Cronk, the same... with storm and Roosters stuff.

Brandy commentates games and he's in Penriths pocket.

Anasta, hates the TiGeRs and reminds us whenever he can and adores the roosters.
Ennis, loves the raiders and sharks.

That's why Gasnier was so good.
Always fair.

We need non bias people in these positions.
 
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395703) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395700) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395695) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?

Maybe Vossy

God no

Vossy trumps Ginnane
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395704) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395695) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?

I hate how some of these jokers can get gigs yet be involved with NRL clubs.

Parker is so biased with all Brisbane related issues.
Cronk, the same... with storm and Roosters stuff.

Brandy commentates games and he's in Penriths pocket.

Anasta, hates the TiGeRs and reminds us whenever he can and adores the roosters.
Ennis, loves the raiders and sharks.

That's why Gasnier was so good.
Always fair.

We need non bias people in these positions.

?
 
They must have had some idea Ikin was looking at the job. Is it just a coincidence that Hadley has just joined the crew?
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395705) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395703) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395700) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395695) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?

Maybe Vossy

God no

Vossy trumps Ginnane

Maybe in general talk but not as a caller
Vossy shits me to tears with the constant dribble and the not funny one liners
 
@tonza said in [NRL 360](/post/1395711) said:
They must have had some idea Ikin was looking at the job. Is it just a coincidence that Hadley has just joined the crew?

Hope it hasn’t been a trial for him.
Nobody else would get to voice an opinion.
 
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395641) said:
@the_third said in [NRL 360](/post/1395627) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395490) said:
@gcfan said in [NRL 360](/post/1395358) said:
@davey_farrell said in [NRL 360](/post/1395342) said:
i know Hooper frustrates all of us, but deep down he loves the Tigers and he has very fair point about Pascoe, this guy has to be accountable for his actions for the onfield failures!!
Yes i know he does not coach the team but gee he has some let some good players leave this club and he seems to be untouchable.
I would love Pascoe to stop talking how great the club is going off the field but lets be honest its on field that most supporters care most!!

I get so tired of hearing we let players go. Sure, some of them we did but to keep hearing we let Tedesco go is an utter lie. We threw the kitchen sink at him and he left. Never let the facts get in the way of a headline

Failed to retain is the same thing
we failed to retain turdesco
fact


we failed to retain Eisenhuth

he went elsewhere yes failed to retain
just like Brisbane failed to retain Fafita and Walker etc


so is that a positive failure for us?
 
@the_third said in [NRL 360](/post/1395721) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395641) said:
@the_third said in [NRL 360](/post/1395627) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395490) said:
@gcfan said in [NRL 360](/post/1395358) said:
@davey_farrell said in [NRL 360](/post/1395342) said:
i know Hooper frustrates all of us, but deep down he loves the Tigers and he has very fair point about Pascoe, this guy has to be accountable for his actions for the onfield failures!!
Yes i know he does not coach the team but gee he has some let some good players leave this club and he seems to be untouchable.
I would love Pascoe to stop talking how great the club is going off the field but lets be honest its on field that most supporters care most!!

I get so tired of hearing we let players go. Sure, some of them we did but to keep hearing we let Tedesco go is an utter lie. We threw the kitchen sink at him and he left. Never let the facts get in the way of a headline

Failed to retain is the same thing
we failed to retain turdesco
fact


we failed to retain Eisenhuth

he went elsewhere yes failed to retain
just like Brisbane failed to retain Fafita and Walker etc


so is that a positive failure for us?

Eisenhuth sucks.
Good riddance.
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395724) said:
@the_third said in [NRL 360](/post/1395721) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395641) said:
@the_third said in [NRL 360](/post/1395627) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395490) said:
@gcfan said in [NRL 360](/post/1395358) said:
@davey_farrell said in [NRL 360](/post/1395342) said:
i know Hooper frustrates all of us, but deep down he loves the Tigers and he has very fair point about Pascoe, this guy has to be accountable for his actions for the onfield failures!!
Yes i know he does not coach the team but gee he has some let some good players leave this club and he seems to be untouchable.
I would love Pascoe to stop talking how great the club is going off the field but lets be honest its on field that most supporters care most!!

I get so tired of hearing we let players go. Sure, some of them we did but to keep hearing we let Tedesco go is an utter lie. We threw the kitchen sink at him and he left. Never let the facts get in the way of a headline

Failed to retain is the same thing
we failed to retain turdesco
fact


we failed to retain Eisenhuth

he went elsewhere yes failed to retain
just like Brisbane failed to retain Fafita and Walker etc


so is that a positive failure for us?

Eisenhuth sucks.
Good riddance.

He’s shit ..
He’s that slow the Pamfers players literally have to stop and wait ?
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395724) said:
@the_third said in [NRL 360](/post/1395721) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395641) said:
@the_third said in [NRL 360](/post/1395627) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395490) said:
@gcfan said in [NRL 360](/post/1395358) said:
@davey_farrell said in [NRL 360](/post/1395342) said:
i know Hooper frustrates all of us, but deep down he loves the Tigers and he has very fair point about Pascoe, this guy has to be accountable for his actions for the onfield failures!!
Yes i know he does not coach the team but gee he has some let some good players leave this club and he seems to be untouchable.
I would love Pascoe to stop talking how great the club is going off the field but lets be honest its on field that most supporters care most!!

I get so tired of hearing we let players go. Sure, some of them we did but to keep hearing we let Tedesco go is an utter lie. We threw the kitchen sink at him and he left. Never let the facts get in the way of a headline

Failed to retain is the same thing
we failed to retain turdesco
fact


we failed to retain Eisenhuth

he went elsewhere yes failed to retain
just like Brisbane failed to retain Fafita and Walker etc


so is that a positive failure for us?

Eisenhuth sucks.
Good riddance.


exactly.
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395705) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395703) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395700) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395695) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395692) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395688) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395676) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL 360](/post/1395673) said:
I find Benji very uninteresting. He hadn't got the skills to host the show, neither has Graham.

This is what I was saying...

Graham is good because he knows his stuff.. but an hour, most nights of the week isn't fan friendly.

Ginnane is annoying and comes across as an unfunny comedian... isn't enjoyable to the fans who want serious footy talk.

They're in trouble.

If we get Braith, Ennis or Cronk... it's looking bad too.

Wouldn't mind Ginnane and as a host. Pitt or Warren Smith would be good too.

Warren Smith, in my opinion is the best commentator around these days.

Ultra professionalism.

Good suggestion.

Hope it’s not brandy ..deadset gerbil ?

Maybe Vossy

God no

Vossy trumps Ginnane

The only one i like is Sterling.
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395655) said:
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395651) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395642) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395639) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395623) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395617) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [NRL 360](/post/1395616) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395611) said:
@jadtiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395573) said:
@cktiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395543) said:
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395525) said:
Have a feeling its going to either Anasta or Ginnane to replace Ikin

Gee I hope its not Anasta !!:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Hopefully not Ginnane and his grating voice... plus the way he uses superlatives in his calls in an effort to make himself sound intelligent.
eg 'That was a majestic tackle.' ... with a long emphasis on the 'majestic'.


Ginnane is even worse than Hadley and i honestly never thought i would be able to say that

I must be in the minority
I like Ginnane

Hadleys a Wanker and I’m not talking Richard Hadley

I like Ginnane too.

I thought he was good also when he hosted 360 not that long ago

He's goofy and has an annoying voice.
I won't watch 360 if he's on it.
He doesn't have the charisma to succeed.

I won't prey for his downfall though.
?

Ginnane a deadset muppet

Agree, not a fan.
I don't think he can carry a show and if he can, I am sure the fans aren't going to be able to tolerate that voice.

Ikin is a huge loss for foxsports.
Their roster is very poor imo.

Gasnier was great and they didn't renew his contract.

The super Saturday crew are so unlikeable.
Corey Parker as well.
Cronk is the worst.

I like Matty John's and his crew though but that's a different show.

I agree Fox Sports team is very lacklasture atm , parker is annoying and has a bronocs bias every time is talks . Pfft Anasta cant believe he has the hosting gig for the pre/post game shows lately

I dont mind ginnuane ( please stop saying ' GOODBYE" when the player has only fallen over line to score) but that has alot more to do with what other options could be out there

Cronk just doesnt stop talking

I like James Graham though!!

Graham is the dark horse, imo.
What he says is very smart and always on topic.

I rate him highly but I'm not sure the general public will like that approach. He isn't very bubbly or personable. Which I think is fine. He'd need a good host beside him to make it work.... which imo would be Benji.

That wouldn't happen till seasons end and IF he retires.

Which would mean we no longer need Kent, lol... I like it but not sure how invested they are in keeping Kenty around.

I think Graham is too green atm and agree 3 nights a week with Kent, he wouldnt come across well!!

Fox League are in trouble if they get this wrong !! I did read today producer has mentioned that this now allows some big changes to 360 ( whatever that means )

Maybe Joel Caine ( does a good job on SEN )
 
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395761) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395655) said:
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395651) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395642) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395639) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395623) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395617) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [NRL 360](/post/1395616) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395611) said:
@jadtiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395573) said:
@cktiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395543) said:
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395525) said:
Have a feeling its going to either Anasta or Ginnane to replace Ikin

Gee I hope its not Anasta !!:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Hopefully not Ginnane and his grating voice... plus the way he uses superlatives in his calls in an effort to make himself sound intelligent.
eg 'That was a majestic tackle.' ... with a long emphasis on the 'majestic'.


Ginnane is even worse than Hadley and i honestly never thought i would be able to say that

I must be in the minority
I like Ginnane

Hadleys a Wanker and I’m not talking Richard Hadley

I like Ginnane too.

I thought he was good also when he hosted 360 not that long ago

He's goofy and has an annoying voice.
I won't watch 360 if he's on it.
He doesn't have the charisma to succeed.

I won't prey for his downfall though.
?

Ginnane a deadset muppet

Agree, not a fan.
I don't think he can carry a show and if he can, I am sure the fans aren't going to be able to tolerate that voice.

Ikin is a huge loss for foxsports.
Their roster is very poor imo.

Gasnier was great and they didn't renew his contract.

The super Saturday crew are so unlikeable.
Corey Parker as well.
Cronk is the worst.

I like Matty John's and his crew though but that's a different show.

I agree Fox Sports team is very lacklasture atm , parker is annoying and has a bronocs bias every time is talks . Pfft Anasta cant believe he has the hosting gig for the pre/post game shows lately

I dont mind ginnuane ( please stop saying ' GOODBYE" when the player has only fallen over line to score) but that has alot more to do with what other options could be out there

Cronk just doesnt stop talking

I like James Graham though!!

Graham is the dark horse, imo.
What he says is very smart and always on topic.

I rate him highly but I'm not sure the general public will like that approach. He isn't very bubbly or personable. Which I think is fine. He'd need a good host beside him to make it work.... which imo would be Benji.

That wouldn't happen till seasons end and IF he retires.

Which would mean we no longer need Kent, lol... I like it but not sure how invested they are in keeping Kenty around.

I think Graham is too green atm and agree 3 nights a week with Kent, he wouldnt come across well!!

Fox League are in trouble if they get this wrong !! I did read today producer has mentioned that this now allows some big changes to 360 ( whatever that means )

Maybe Joel Caine ( does a good job on SEN )

@Joelcainenumber1fan

Haha, no way.
Joel Caine is a little worm.
He's got sportsbet commitments too.

Can't see it happening.
Interested to see who gets the gig tho.

Kenty said he has a lot of input on him who gets the job....
I reckon he'll be leaning towards a big star.
 
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395762) said:
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395761) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395655) said:
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395651) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395642) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395639) said:
@demps said in [NRL 360](/post/1395623) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395617) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [NRL 360](/post/1395616) said:
@hobbo1 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395611) said:
@jadtiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395573) said:
@cktiger said in [NRL 360](/post/1395543) said:
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395525) said:
Have a feeling its going to either Anasta or Ginnane to replace Ikin

Gee I hope its not Anasta !!:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Hopefully not Ginnane and his grating voice... plus the way he uses superlatives in his calls in an effort to make himself sound intelligent.
eg 'That was a majestic tackle.' ... with a long emphasis on the 'majestic'.


Ginnane is even worse than Hadley and i honestly never thought i would be able to say that

I must be in the minority
I like Ginnane

Hadleys a Wanker and I’m not talking Richard Hadley

I like Ginnane too.

I thought he was good also when he hosted 360 not that long ago

He's goofy and has an annoying voice.
I won't watch 360 if he's on it.
He doesn't have the charisma to succeed.

I won't prey for his downfall though.
?

Ginnane a deadset muppet

Agree, not a fan.
I don't think he can carry a show and if he can, I am sure the fans aren't going to be able to tolerate that voice.

Ikin is a huge loss for foxsports.
Their roster is very poor imo.

Gasnier was great and they didn't renew his contract.

The super Saturday crew are so unlikeable.
Corey Parker as well.
Cronk is the worst.

I like Matty John's and his crew though but that's a different show.

I agree Fox Sports team is very lacklasture atm , parker is annoying and has a bronocs bias every time is talks . Pfft Anasta cant believe he has the hosting gig for the pre/post game shows lately

I dont mind ginnuane ( please stop saying ' GOODBYE" when the player has only fallen over line to score) but that has alot more to do with what other options could be out there

Cronk just doesnt stop talking

I like James Graham though!!

Graham is the dark horse, imo.
What he says is very smart and always on topic.

I rate him highly but I'm not sure the general public will like that approach. He isn't very bubbly or personable. Which I think is fine. He'd need a good host beside him to make it work.... which imo would be Benji.

That wouldn't happen till seasons end and IF he retires.

Which would mean we no longer need Kent, lol... I like it but not sure how invested they are in keeping Kenty around.

I think Graham is too green atm and agree 3 nights a week with Kent, he wouldnt come across well!!

Fox League are in trouble if they get this wrong !! I did read today producer has mentioned that this now allows some big changes to 360 ( whatever that means )

Maybe Joel Caine ( does a good job on SEN )

@Joelcainenumber1fan

Haha, no way.
Joel Caine is a little worm.
He's got sportsbet commitments too.

Can't see it happening.
Interested to see who gets the gig tho.

Kenty said he has a lot of input on him who gets the job....
I reckon he'll be leaning towards a big star.

Blocker Roach
 
@tigers79 said in [NRL 360](/post/1395525) said:
Have a feeling its going to either Anasta or Ginnane to replace Ikin

Gee I hope its not Anasta !!:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Gooper Gronk?
 

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