NRL admits bunker mistake

[Curaeus]

You are kidding yourself mate!

Come back & speak to me next week when nothing has happened & Lee has retreated with his fedora between his legs...

I agree that is was an appalling injustice through incompetence etc - but there are ZERO legal grounds to achieve any beneficial resolution!

As it happens I don't expect we will get the 2 points but we either just cop another hopeless NRL stuffup or draw some kind of line in the sand. And you can drop the "mate" mate!

 

[Snidest 0]

Lol... You're on a tear! 🤣

What business are you in? I'm in civil engineering and you can bet your bottom dollar that if I were faced with an issue regarding metallurgy or mineral processing I'd be straight onto the best, most experienced process engineer I could find. Now I can guarantee you that would take less than a day.

You think that his saying he is seeking the best counsel for this situation is the move of an arrogant, dumb man?

So if you are so confident put your money where your big mouth is. Those of us you have labelled idiots you can take our bank details and if you are wrong you can deposit the dollar amount equal to your IQ.

At least I'd maybe get lunch for free one day...

If any successful legal action gets off the ground on this - I will happily buy everyone on this forum a meal my man!!

 

[Snidest 0]

Lol... You're on a tear! 🤣

What business are you in? I'm in civil engineering and you can bet your bottom dollar that if I were faced with an issue regarding metallurgy or mineral processing I'd be straight onto the best, most experienced process engineer I could find. Now I can guarantee you that would take less than a day.

You think that his saying he is seeking the best counsel for this situation is the move of an arrogant, dumb man?

So if you are so confident put your money where your big mouth is. Those of us you have labelled idiots you can take our bank details and if you are wrong you can deposit the dollar amount equal to your IQ.

At least I'd maybe get lunch for free one day...

Enjoy being manipulated into false hope by a charlatan!!

The Australian Saul Goodman!!

 

[Snidest 0]

As it happens I don't expect we will get the 2 points but we either just cop another hopeless NRL stuffup or draw some kind of line in the sand. And you can drop the "mate" mate!

And that line in the sand is alienating ourselves further from the NRL administration by pursuing futile and costly legal action as a stunt to appease the fans!!

I'd rather do it through the right channels and not dragged through the media as it already has been!

There is nil upside to this strategy and any decent club management would realise it & gag the media darling aside from his regular sponsored radio appearances.

 

[Curaeus]

And that line in the sand is alienating ourselves further from the NRL administration by pursuing futile and costly legal action as a stunt to appease the fans!!

I'd rather do it through the right channels and not dragged through the media as it already has been!

There is nil upside to this strategy and any decent club management would realise it & gag the media darling aside from his regular sponsored radio appearances.

You seem to think doing nothing beyond lodging an appeal to the NRL's non existent sense of fairness (already done as far as I know) is the way to go. I respectfully disagree. I am not privy to the legal advice Lee says he's received from counsel in support of whatever legal strategy he wishes to pursue. I assume neither are you.

 

[TurnStyle]

Enjoy being manipulated into false hope by a charlatan!!

The Australian Saul Goodman!!

I don't really see it as being manipulated into false hope.

I'm not naive enough to think that what I hope (and do believe) should be the outcome is the only possibility.

Frankly, whether or not the Tigers are successful in this is secondary to the fact they are standing up for themselves. I would much prefer seeing a grumpy Hangipantelis telling the nrl community that what happened was wrong and the club is not going to just sit by and take it, than for absolutely no action to be taken at all.

What would the posts on here be if nothing had been done?

People would be calling for his head. They would be saying "WTF? He's the principal of a huge law firm and he's doing nothing!".

I do believe the club has a very strong case and just because something exactly like this has never happened before doesn't mean it shouldn't now.

Actually, I had a bit of an internal chuckle about this today:
I was being internally overly dramatic for a laugh and likened Sundays game to the winter Olympics when Steven Bradbury won the Gold medal.

Except this time when all the other skaters fell over they all got up and cried and the officials made the race go another 5 laps because they really didn't think he should have won! 🤣

 

[The SHADOW]

And Tamou tried to use our captains challenge to challenge that offside kick and Butler refused his challenge……..WTF

straight over the grey dot 100%

 

[bathursttiger1]

The Mole: Former top referee blasts NRL 'smother job' in wake of latest Bunker controversy​

Former referees boss Michael Stone has described the farcical events after Sunday's Cowboys-Tigers game as the biggest "smother job" by league officials in over 30 years.
Stone, a grand final and State of Origin referee, couldn't remember a bigger fiasco since a little-known loophole in the rules cost St George a game in the early 1990s.
"I can't believe what I saw on Sunday and how the NRL then tried to cover its tracks," Stone said of the controversial finish in Townsville

"It's a smother job, plain and simple - they are making up the rules as they go.
"It reminds me of a Dragons-Sharks game in around 1990 when (Dragons coach) Brian Smith asked officials if the ball was rolling near the deadball line and his fullback had a foot out of play and touched it, would it be a 20-metre tap. As the rules stood then - they were changed very quickly after the game - he was right, but when it happened on the field, the ref ordered a line dropout instead of a 20m tap - and of course the Sharks scored and the Dragons lost.

Referee Chris Butler speaks to Tigers players. (Getty)
"Smith got his captain to lodge an official complaint on the field and all hell broke loose. The league went into damage control, made up a bunch of excuses and we are seeing the same here.
"When the referee blew the whistle on Sunday, the game was over - that's why he blew the whistle. The Cowboys jumped up and down and the referee didn't have a clue what to do so he went to the Bunker.
"Poor (Bunker referee) Ashley Klein had no idea and took the soft option of giving the Cowboys the penalty for a blatant dive… no common sense.

"For the NRL to say the game wasn't over and the Cowboys could launch a captain's challenge is pure fantasy. And they do admit they got the challenge wrong, it should not have been a penalty - it's a complete farce - sadly we have learnt little in over 30 years.
"I really couldn't believe what I was watching. I felt for the Tigers - they were dudded."

 

[The SHADOW]

The Mole: Former top referee blasts NRL 'smother job' in wake of latest Bunker controversy​

Former referees boss Michael Stone has described the farcical events after Sunday's Cowboys-Tigers game as the biggest "smother job" by league officials in over 30 years.
Stone, a grand final and State of Origin referee, couldn't remember a bigger fiasco since a little-known loophole in the rules cost St George a game in the early 1990s.
"I can't believe what I saw on Sunday and how the NRL then tried to cover its tracks," Stone said of the controversial finish in Townsville

"It's a smother job, plain and simple - they are making up the rules as they go.
"It reminds me of a Dragons-Sharks game in around 1990 when (Dragons coach) Brian Smith asked officials if the ball was rolling near the deadball line and his fullback had a foot out of play and touched it, would it be a 20-metre tap. As the rules stood then - they were changed very quickly after the game - he was right, but when it happened on the field, the ref ordered a line dropout instead of a 20m tap - and of course the Sharks scored and the Dragons lost.

Referee Chris Butler speaks to Tigers players. (Getty)
"Smith got his captain to lodge an official complaint on the field and all hell broke loose. The league went into damage control, made up a bunch of excuses and we are seeing the same here.
"When the referee blew the whistle on Sunday, the game was over - that's why he blew the whistle. The Cowboys jumped up and down and the referee didn't have a clue what to do so he went to the Bunker.
"Poor (Bunker referee) Ashley Klein had no idea and took the soft option of giving the Cowboys the penalty for a blatant dive… no common sense.

"For the NRL to say the game wasn't over and the Cowboys could launch a captain's challenge is pure fantasy. And they do admit they got the challenge wrong, it should not have been a penalty - it's a complete farce - sadly we have learnt little in over 30 years.
"I really couldn't believe what I was watching. I felt for the Tigers - they were dudded."

I love the mole, did he have to release this . Thank good he did, keep it up guys, keep digging. Not one positive news story on the WT fiasco via the media or the NRL site itself. And you think they have balls. I love it. Everything they say can be incriminating. Legal mine field.
but for us we can keep screaming the facts , it won’t hurt us one little bit.

 

[jirskyr]

Question for you all - who will be the first/next team to challenge a half-time or full-time buzzer play, now that the NRL has advised this is acceptable?

And how many rounds until it occurs?

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Question for you all - who will be the first/next team to challenge a half-time or full-time buzzer play, now that the NRL has advised this is acceptable?

And how many rounds until it occurs?

It will happen this week. The next close game and it’s on especially if the team attacking has a challenge left

 

[NT_Tiger]

If Rugby League is ever to be a genuine sport again, instead of a form of choreographed gambling ballet, the NRL needs to get real and find a way to insulate itself from the betting industry. If it was free from this curse it could quite simply say we got it wrong and give us the two competition points. This is the strongest evidence ever that the NRL is governed by gambling. It is not sport.

 

[Hbom]

Question for you all - who will be the first/next team to challenge a half-time or full-time buzzer play, now that the NRL has advised this is acceptable?

And how many rounds until it occurs?

I would like to see Wests Tigers make a point of issuing futile challenges at full-time for the rest of the season.

 

[Cobarcats]

It's not that hard to understand the escort ruling!

 

[jirskyr]

I would like to see Wests Tigers make a point of issuing futile challenges at full-time for the rest of the season.

Me too.

Even if we are winning, do it and make a song and dance about it. Perhaps even challenge stupid technicalities, like some obscure rule that "may have" occurred in the final play.

Or challenge something entirely obvious, like have your own player run the ball into touch at the final whistle, then run up to the ref and challenge. And he says "what are you challenging?" and you say "I am challenging the call of "ball into touch" - I want to check he really went out".

And then like a bunch of dickheads, we all watch a replay of Daine Laurie definitely running into touch with the football in his hands... "challenge unsuccessful".

Farcical stuff like that.

I would 100% do it if I was captain.

 

[tig_prmz]

Me too.

Even if we are winning, do it and make a song and dance about it. Perhaps even challenge stupid technicalities, like some obscure rule that "may have" occurred in the final play.

Or challenge something entirely obvious, like have your own player run the ball into touch at the final whistle, then run up to the ref and challenge. And he says "what are you challenging?" and you say "I am challenging the call of "ball into touch" - I want to check he really went out".

And then like a bunch of dickheads, we all watch a replay of Daine Laurie definitely running into touch with the football in his hands... "challenge unsuccessful".

Farcical stuff like that.

I would 100% do it if I was captain.

Get Musgrove to headbutt someone's shoulder in front of the post at the end of the game and claim a high tackle.

 

[Hbom]

Me too.

Even if we are winning, do it and make a song and dance about it. Perhaps even challenge stupid technicalities, like some obscure rule that "may have" occurred in the final play.

Or challenge something entirely obvious, like have your own player run the ball into touch at the final whistle, then run up to the ref and challenge. And he says "what are you challenging?" and you say "I am challenging the call of "ball into touch" - I want to check he really went out".

And then like a bunch of dickheads, we all watch a replay of Daine Laurie definitely running into touch with the football in his hands... "challenge unsuccessful".

Farcical stuff like that.

I would 100% do it if I was captain.

Farcical challenges like that yes, but also just the extremely mundane and pointless like oppostion knock-on when no knock-on was called nor should there have been.

 

[TillLindemann]

We should definitely challenge every full time whistle, i.e was it legitimately blown at the correct time, even if we're down by 50.

 

[OzLuke]

It's not that hard to understand the escort ruling!
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Every single kick of every single game, there is an escort.....
One question I have, if there's a line break and a supporting runner runs a line that keeps a defender away from the ball carrier, shouldn't that be deemed denying the defender a chance to make a tackle?

 

[Cobarcats]

Every single kick of every single game, there is an escort.....
One question I have, if there's a line break and a supporting runner runs a line that keeps a defender away from the ball carrier, shouldn't that be deemed denying the defender a chance to make a tackle?

Yes Luke, but as you say, this happens quiet often.
The same applies when both are shoulder to shoulder trying to get the ball down in a try scoring situation.
The vision of Kepaoa shows shoulder to shoulder before Kyle pushed off him...actor.