jirskyr
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@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506465) said:@jirskyr said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506454) said:@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506295) said:@jirskyr said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506294) said:@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506286) said:@jirskyr said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506282) said:@eyeofthetiger-0 said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506259) said:@barra said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1506247) said:I think putting yourself before your own family, let alone your community is more selfishness than responsibility?
Wrong again. Wife is exempt, kids too young to be vaxxed (thank god).
Give it another few months and your kids won't be too young any more.
Out of curiosity are your kids vaxxed against the other normal conditions - measles, mumps, rubella etc?
Well mate, go get your kids vaxxed. No one is touching mine
I will for certain. They've already been vaccinated for all the other conditions, COVID will be another. Did your kids get the other jabs - measles, mumps etc?
I hope your kids don’t get any of the side effects and die mate. You will be beside yourself and will hate your decision. COVID has a minimal effect on kids
Vaccines are reported to have have minimal negative effects on kids too. The CDC in the US estimates approx 700 children aged 18 or younger have died from COVID - do you seriously believe 700 American children will be killed by the vaccine?
No, if my kids get side effects from a jab I will be both upset and also accepting of it. I develop drugs for a living, I understand the risk factors better than most people. You follow the lowest-risk path with the greatest benefit for yourself, your family and the community. On all counts (self, family, community) it means vaccination. The mathematics of it are undeniable. There are risks of side effects, as there are with every drug in existence, but the risks of the vaccine in all approved age groups are far lower than the risk of COVID. If the TGA decides there is unacceptable or unnecessary risk for children, they won't approve the COVID vaccines for kids - it's a pretty straightforward process; the people at the TGA have kids too.
But you won't answer my question for some reason - are your kids vaccinated against other non-COVID conditions? The standard ones they get when they are kids.
Sorry mate, yes. Except we are not doing the 4th year vax for my ASD one. He went back to back vaccine with his previous and it
Screwed him right up. He regressed
Sorry to hear that - I'm not a doctor, so I don't know the implications of what you are saying for your son's condition.
The last thing I'll say is - the mechanisms by which other vaccines (not COVID) are approved for use in Australia are the same mechanisms by which the COVID vaccine was approved. They are researched the same way, trialled the same way, registered and approved the same way.
Were non-COVID children's vaccines an emergency, they would be expedited just the same as a COVID vaccine.
And on the numbers - approx 95% of children are vaccinated against childhood infections each year, and about 300,000 children born per year in Australia. That means approx 285K new children receive their vaccines each year, so in the realm of 2.5M every decade. And we have been vaccinating against things like measles for about 40 years, so approx 10M Australians have been vaccinated in the measles campaign. And I think we can all agree the measles vaccination program has proven both safe and effective.
So for some perspective - 18M Australians are fully vaccinated against COVID right now. That means twice the number of people are currently vaccinated against COVID than have been vaccinated against measles in the past 40 years. It shows you the power of the COVID safety data that the authorities have access to.