NRL. Anti-Vaxers..

[innsaneink]

I had a neg result this past week but was the sickest i have been in years. Go figure.

We as a community and a nation need to be a fraction less selfish.

I know quite a few people that recently have been very sick with flu like symptoms yet are negative...
Looks like the flu is still around despite.what some would have you believe

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

I had a neg result this past week but was the sickest i have been in years. Go figure.

We as a community and a nation need to be a fraction less selfish.

I know quite a few people that recently have been very sick with flu like symptoms yet are negative...
Looks like the flu is still around despite.what some would have you believe

Of course the flu is still around.
It never went anywhere.
The only logic is that for the past 2 flu seasons, any flu cases have been reported as covid.
A bit like the reported Souths members that are in Botany cemetery.
Ya gotta get the numbers up.

 

[Don Kershane]


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[InBenjiWeTrust]

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[Nelson]

I had a neg result this past week but was the sickest i have been in years. Go figure.

We as a community and a nation need to be a fraction less selfish.

I know quite a few people that recently have been very sick with flu like symptoms yet are negative...
Looks like the flu is still around despite.what some would have you believe

Of course the flu is still around.
It never went anywhere.
The only logic is that for the past 2 flu seasons, any flu cases have been reported as covid.
A bit like the reported Souths members that are in Botany cemetery.
Ya gotta get the numbers up.

It’s not the only logic it’s just your stupid logic that assumes all those people that swear Hippocratic oaths turn around and lie to further some stupid global conspiracy. Just because you would ignore an oath doesn’t mean other people that study and work their arses off to help others would. Your logic (such as it is) is offensive to those people.

 

[old_man_tiger]

I'm with the players complaining here. 1 in 30 people in NSW have produced positive covid-19 PCR tests in the last three weeks. The real number of infected could be double that if not more. We're realistically looking at a situation where by the time the NRL season starts, 50% of the state/country will have had the virus.

People should basically start treating getting the omicron variant as an inevitability. Measures like that are unduly restrictive and its the equivalent to a dog chasing it's tail. It's not like before where we had a handful of cases being announced everyday - players are going to get it from wives/children/family at home, then spread it at training and then at games. You'll have massive outbreaks regardless, might as well just let them live normally.

It's about balancing the need to get to what you describe quickly, without crashing the health system. The NRL players are the least relevant voice in this, ever workplace is working it out as we go and they need to suck it up for a few more months. I'm sure the majority are.

Not sure at what point people who need care get turned away from NSW Health facilities and I'd rather not find out. A few more weeks after 2 years, where people are more or less unrestricted apart from a few settings, is not a big ask.

 

[Lukic]

I think so. Case numbers just keep growing and don't look like they're going to be stopping any time soon. Even if conservatively say 6-7% of the population has had it, if we double that each month, that gets us to 30% by march. All that takes is for an infected person to infect another 2 people, who then infect others.

Forget about % what your saying I think is 13million Australian will be affected, mmm. Do you think this is acceptable? I'm not being a smart arse mate I'm one of those vulnerable, same with my wife.
I'm just trying to make sense with this anti-vax stuff.
I reflect back to when Qld went into lockdown and we got down to zero again. I'm not throwing my hands in the air and say to he'll with it.
I do have faith in the brilliant medical minds we have at our service and one day we might look back and say "we did it"

What does the NRL, a private organisation, imposing a ban on its players have to do with public health matters? This isn't a government thing. You've completely misunderstood why the players are complaining and the point I'm making. It's the equivalent of **your employer** telling you that you can't go to indoor venues as part of keeping your job.

The problem is that it's basically pointless for the players since they will get covid-19 eventually since it will be rampant in the community, whether or not they are allowed to go to indoor venues. The NRL's idea is to ensure there isn't an outbreak amongst the players - the NRL has no agency nor concern about the rest of society. Telling the players to avoid going to indoor venues during the season when there's going to be tens of thousands of cases if not more circulating at any given time is the equivalent of telling someone who's about to get shot by a sniper to wear a leather jacket. It won't achieve anything.

 

[rustycage]

I had a neg result this past week but was the sickest i have been in years. Go figure.

We as a community and a nation need to be a fraction less selfish.

I know quite a few people that recently have been very sick with flu like symptoms yet are negative...
Looks like the flu is still around despite.what some would have you believe

Of course the flu is still around.
It never went anywhere.
The only logic is that for the past 2 flu seasons, any flu cases have been reported as covid.
A bit like the reported Souths members that are in Botany cemetery.
Ya gotta get the numbers up.

Or maybe the only real logic is that due to do many millions of people wearing masks, social distancing and using sanitizer on a regular basis has had a significant impact on flu cases.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I had a neg result this past week but was the sickest i have been in years. Go figure.

We as a community and a nation need to be a fraction less selfish.

I know quite a few people that recently have been very sick with flu like symptoms yet are negative...
Looks like the flu is still around despite.what some would have you believe

Once we further opened our borders the flu has come in more readily from the northern hemisphere winter and the cooler/wetter than normal weather leading up to Xmas helped it spread. Also getting a hold here because of the decrease in flu vaccination, lack of immunity after two seasons of strain evolution with very little influenza in the community due to our island isolation.

Spare a thought for those working in health and the caring sectors as they are already run off their feet and only getting worse by the day. This shouldn't have happened as it has with lax NSW again exporting the problem to other states and worse this time with ideology strongly overriding health.

It is not right that too many are in tears before even going to help others and totally exhausted afterwards whilst some amongst us whine about minor infringement of their liberties.

 

[colinbh]

I had a neg result this past week but was the sickest i have been in years. Go figure.

We as a community and a nation need to be a fraction less selfish.

I know quite a few people that recently have been very sick with flu like symptoms yet are negative...
Looks like the flu is still around despite.what some would have you believe

Once we further opened our borders the flu has come in more readily from the northern hemisphere winter and the cooler/wetter than normal weather leading up to Xmas helped it spread. Also getting a hold here because of the decrease in flu vaccination, lack of immunity after two seasons of strain evolution with very little influenza in the community due to our island isolation.

Spare a thought for those working in health and the caring sectors as they are already run off their feet and only getting worse by the day. This shouldn't have happened as it has with lax NSW again exporting the problem to other states and worse this time with ideology strongly overriding health.

It is not right that too many are in tears before even going to help others and totally exhausted afterwards whilst some amongst us whine about minor infringement of their liberties.

Two years is hardly minor. If you are scared then stay at home. But do not expect everyone to do the same.

 

[Cobarcats]

Lukic I do get it mate but this is the Anti-Vaxers thread and you said a couple of things that triggered the debate. At least we've been respectful to each other hey.
More to your point..... The NRL has been forced to restrict the movements of its players in an attempt to avoid major disruptions to the NRL pre-season.
They've identified the likes of pubs, nighclubs and cinemas as a greater risk of spreading the virus and the need for people visiting their house to pass a rapid antigen test beforehand.
I seriously doubt whether we'll have a competion if something like this isn't enforced.
IMO it's an attempt to give clubs an uninterrupted preseason which is important because apart from getting the team together it's a rehearsal for season proper.
If down the track COVID was rampant through the NRL and the comp was cancelled, what would the reaction of the fans be if strict protocols were not in place?
They can't just sit on their hands and let problems snowball. They must protect the product.
I wish I was being paid 200k to do what players are having to go thru to play the game they love.
Cheers tigers.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I had a neg result this past week but was the sickest i have been in years. Go figure.

We as a community and a nation need to be a fraction less selfish.

I know quite a few people that recently have been very sick with flu like symptoms yet are negative...
Looks like the flu is still around despite.what some would have you believe

Once we further opened our borders the flu has come in more readily from the northern hemisphere winter and the cooler/wetter than normal weather leading up to Xmas helped it spread. Also getting a hold here because of the decrease in flu vaccination, lack of immunity after two seasons of strain evolution with very little influenza in the community due to our island isolation.

Spare a thought for those working in health and the caring sectors as they are already run off their feet and only getting worse by the day. This shouldn't have happened as it has with lax NSW again exporting the problem to other states and worse this time with ideology strongly overriding health.

It is not right that too many are in tears before even going to help others and totally exhausted afterwards whilst some amongst us whine about minor infringement of their liberties.

Two years is hardly minor. If you are scared then stay at home. But do not expect everyone to do the same.

What a surprise. Let me guess, you are an anti vaxxer too

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

So at the end of the day, after taking into account health care workers, hemispheres, the weather, etc . . . . do you REALLY think that is the reason we have heard zero . . . . absolutely zero about the flu in the past 2 winters ? It disappeared completely from the media and from dialogue in society during the time that covid was being thrust by the media and the powers that be.
Some hospital staff were bumping up the numbers of covid cases. The reasons why are a totally different discussion.
There are many reasons to not believe that the 'flu magically disappeared for the past 2-3 years.

 

[tony soprano]

Luke 50%, really?
I'll agree with that only if current protocols aren't met. I refer to my observation about the Qld border reopening.
I get it that Qld has less people per square km compared to say, Victoria, who have had it tough. Some might argue that is the case but it only confirms that the virus spreads through close contact.
So why has Qld done so well in highly populated areas like Brisbane and major rural towns. I also wonder how things would be going if people didn't go out partying on new years eve or the demonstrations and night clubs, mmmm. You should see the COVID testing line ups about a week after NYE, unbloodybelievable.
Spare a thought for millions of people who are vulnerable and can't "just live with it"
As far as footy players are concerned the top playing group are pretty well compensated with dollars whilst they have to obey these rules, geez I couldn't save 10k in 4 years compared to there income.
We've controlled viruses and other diseases since the smallpox in the early 1800s, why are we so precious now when a potentially catastrophic virus hits us?
P.S. Tim Mander, ex NRL ref is our local LNP member and I'm going to try and get in his ear to try and get local gov to have Q&A sessions with medical authorities and reps from anti vax and pro vax and gen public to be informed and to have everyone's voice heard in a peaceful way, hasn't been done up here so it will be interesting to see what the reaction will be.

Fair points mate

But it's also hard to quantify other social and mental effects government intervention has had to people in Australia.

Notwithstanding all the real mental issues it's caused the country is going mad at the moment

 

[Red88_Tiger]

Lukic I do get it mate but this is the Anti-Vaxers thread and you said a couple of things that triggered the debate. At least we've been respectful to each other hey.
More to your point..... The NRL has been forced to restrict the movements of its players in an attempt to avoid major disruptions to the NRL pre-season.
They've identified the likes of pubs, nighclubs and cinemas as a greater risk of spreading the virus and the need for people visiting their house to pass a rapid antigen test beforehand.
I seriously doubt whether we'll have a competion if something like this isn't enforced.
IMO it's an attempt to give clubs an uninterrupted preseason which is important because apart from getting the team together it's a rehearsal for season proper.
If down the track COVID was rampant through the NRL and the comp was cancelled, what would the reaction of the fans be if strict protocols were not in place?
They can't just sit on their hands and let problems snowball. They must protect the product.
I wish I was being paid 200k to do what players are having to go thru to play the game they love.
Cheers tigers.

Probably what’s taken everyone by surprise is it’s a proactive move

 

[Cobarcats]

Tony I agree with you somewhat. What I know without a shadow of a doubt is the community suffer more emotional upheaval if the is no positive guidance from our leaders compared to constraints placed upon us.
Unknown = anxiety
Restrictions = anger
Anger can often be vented, like on this forum.
But when someone feels vulnerable, all sorts of emotions can fester.
I'm agnostic but I do feel that this pandemic will test the very core values of a decent society. It's time to band together and get people through this.
In relation to what's been said earlier about feeling really crook and testing negative.... I'm sure I read a report saying vaccinated people are likely to experience spasmodic flu like symptoms days even months after treatment.

 

[earl]

In relation to what’s been said earlier about feeling really crook and testing negative… I’m sure I read a report saying vaccinated people are likely to experience spasmodic flu like symptoms days even months after treatment.

On what alternative media site did you read this ? You know it's nonsense right.

I think the first part of coming out of this pandemic is to stop the false narratives which come predominantly from the anti-vaxxers.

Personally I don't care about people being unvaccinated now. They are the ones who are putting themselves at risk. I think we should let this wave roll over us without restrictions and people manage themselves. I just wish the anti-vaxxers would stop the BS that they continually sprout.

Onto the NRL I think they should stop testing. It's only going to stop games being played with very little benefit.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

So is this the new Covid thread?

 

[Harvey]

Apparently 10 of our players are positive according to media reports

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Apparently 10 of our players are positive according to media reports

Probably better now over during the season as it will be less disruptive. When do they return to training? Next week?