NRL.com biased?

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Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

 

[BAGNF05]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I know I would personally be pouring money into the club and the game if I thought WT had an even chance, instead I’ll just be watching on TV. Not everyone will agree but I’m sure I’m not on an island.

 

[Guest]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

 

[BAGNF05]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

 

[innsaneink]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

You're losing the plot. Seriously.

 

[mike]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

 

[BAGNF05]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

My argument is that the system doesn’t help with this. It’s all about the top end of town, the salary cap is a farce, no draft, dodgy player managers, NRL committees full of Roosters and Souths people.

You want fans to excited and spend money on the game, give their team a fighting chance.

I come from the Illawarra, you should see the state of the first grade Comp here. It will be a 3 team Comp soon.

 

[hobbo1]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

My argument is that the system doesn’t help with this. It’s all about the top end of town, the salary cap is a farce, no draft, dodgy player managers, NRL committees full of Roosters and Souths people.

You want fans to excited and spend money on the game, give their team a fighting chance.

I come from the Illawarra, you should see the state of the first grade Comp here. It will be a 3 team Comp soon.

Society thrives on negativity and comments by Eisenhuth get clicks ..
Relax dude !
Stopped getting sucked in ?

 

[dazza65]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

My argument is that the system doesn’t help with this. It’s all about the top end of town, the salary cap is a farce, no draft, dodgy player managers, NRL committees full of Roosters and Souths people.

You want fans to excited and spend money on the game, give their team a fighting chance.

I come from the Illawarra, you should see the state of the first grade Comp here. It will be a 3 team Comp soon.

Society thrives on negativity and comments by Eisenhuth get clicks ..
Relax dude !
Stopped getting sucked in ?

True
read something a while back about a study that reviewed all news items on line, TV, radio and almost 80% of every headline/story had a negative connotation - however interesting almost half of those were actually a somewhat positive story that was encased within the negative headline (that actually misconstrued the topic to make it seem negative!) LOL

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

People have been using the ‘we have to start winning games’ argument for years Mike, but losing cultures at the Titans, Cowboys, Bulldogs, Dragons and Newcastle over many years haven’t brought them the same amount of negative press.

 

[BAGNF05]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

People have been using the ‘we have to start winning games’ argument for years Mike, but losing cultures at the Titans, Cowboys, Bulldogs, Dragons and Newcastle over many years haven’t brought them the same amount of negative press.

Imagine revitalising all those fan bases by introducing some change so that they can compete with the glamour clubs. people would come out of the wood work.

 

[mike]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

My argument is that the system doesn’t help with this. It’s all about the top end of town, the salary cap is a farce, no draft, dodgy player managers, NRL committees full of Roosters and Souths people.

You want fans to excited and spend money on the game, give their team a fighting chance.

I come from the Illawarra, you should see the state of the first grade Comp here. It will be a 3 team Comp soon.

No one is going to help, I don’t expect anything else, it’s up to us to make the difference.

Recruitment is the key and we have made huge strides this off season.

No one is going to take notice of a club that hasn’t made the finals in 10 years. Would you take notice of an poor performing business?

We need to win, create success that brings in the money, then you’ll be able to influence the NRL. It doesn't work the other way around.

 

[hobbo1]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

My argument is that the system doesn’t help with this. It’s all about the top end of town, the salary cap is a farce, no draft, dodgy player managers, NRL committees full of Roosters and Souths people.

You want fans to excited and spend money on the game, give their team a fighting chance.

I come from the Illawarra, you should see the state of the first grade Comp here. It will be a 3 team Comp soon.


No one is going to help, I don’t expect anything else, it’s up to us to make the difference.

Recruitment is the key and we have made huge strides this off season.

No one is going to take notice of a club that hasn’t made the finals in 10 years. Would you take notice of an poor performing business?

We need to win, create success that brings in the money, then you’ll be able to influence the NRL. It doesn't work the other way around.

What about Tracy Grimshaw ?
Could she help ?

 

[Russell]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

My argument is that the system doesn’t help with this. It’s all about the top end of town, the salary cap is a farce, no draft, dodgy player managers, NRL committees full of Roosters and Souths people.

You want fans to excited and spend money on the game, give their team a fighting chance.

I come from the Illawarra, you should see the state of the first grade Comp here. It will be a 3 team Comp soon.


No one is going to help, I don’t expect anything else, it’s up to us to make the difference.

Recruitment is the key and we have made huge strides this off season.

No one is going to take notice of a club that hasn’t made the finals in 10 years. Would you take notice of an poor performing business?

We need to win, create success that brings in the money, then you’ll be able to influence the NRL. It doesn't work the other way around.

What about Tracy Grimshaw ?
Could she help ?

She could play in the front row.

 

[earl]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

My argument is that the system doesn’t help with this. It’s all about the top end of town, the salary cap is a farce, no draft, dodgy player managers, NRL committees full of Roosters and Souths people.

You want fans to excited and spend money on the game, give their team a fighting chance.

I come from the Illawarra, you should see the state of the first grade Comp here. It will be a 3 team Comp soon.


No one is going to help, I don’t expect anything else, it’s up to us to make the difference.

Recruitment is the key and we have made huge strides this off season.

No one is going to take notice of a club that hasn’t made the finals in 10 years. Would you take notice of an poor performing business?

We need to win, create success that brings in the money, then you’ll be able to influence the NRL. It doesn't work the other way around.

I basically agree but who even cares about being noticed. I'd just like to win some more games and even the comp because it's preferable to losing.

I pay very little attention to other teams and I hardly read rugby league articles that aren't posted on here or on the WT website.

 

[jirskyr]

For anyone interested in how a good organisation runs a Comp with actual integrity.

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/nfl-operations/integrity-of-the-game/

Is that the same NFL with:
- 2014 class action lawsuit settlement with 4,500 players over CTE
- treatment of Colin Kaepernick since 2016
- having to introduce a new domestic violence policy after the 2014 Ray Rice incident
- Cowboys owner Jerry Jones lodging a $750M lawsuit in 2017, in response to the contract of NFL Commissioner
- "Deflategate" with the flat footballs in 2014
- 2012 NO Saints Bounty case
- Michael Vick being allowed back into the league after pleading guilty to organised dogfighting
- franchise movements to new cities based on whim or business need of their owners
- 2007 Spygate scandal involving the Patriots

Oh they are totally consistent with the way they handle controversy in the NFL, totally, and nobody complains about it at all.

 

[BAGNF05]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

You're losing the plot. Seriously.

It’s called thinking big picture and not just accepting the status quo. At least PVL seems open to change

 

[tigerbalm]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

People have been using the ‘we have to start winning games’ argument for years Mike, but losing cultures at the Titans, Cowboys, Bulldogs, Dragons and Newcastle over many years haven’t brought them the same amount of negative press.

Imagine revitalising all those fan bases by introducing some change so that they can compete with the glamour clubs. people would come out of the wood work.

Fair point and I'm not sure why people are jumping on you about your opinion. Some weird folk around here.

Fortunately or or unfortunately ( depending on who you support) the NRL is now a big business and needs to make money. Money is generated on ads and getting clicks. To attract the clicks they need a headline to stand out or a topic that's salacious enough to attract the most people across all teams supporter base. Good saying for this type of business model is " if it bleeds, it leads" and we all know Wests bleeds.

I think your annoyance should probably be aimed at the club. Disastrous on field results, horrible player selection and retention, players owning dressing rooms, coaching musical chairs, more home grounds than finals appearances (~_~) ceo's making dodgy deals, players jumping through fences...You get my point. At this stage, Wests are literally writing, directing, producing and releasing the drama themselves. The NRL is just reporting it.

Not saying I'm any better. If this was Parra getting kicked I'd be clicking all the ads, links, articles i can find.

 

[BAGNF05]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

People have been using the ‘we have to start winning games’ argument for years Mike, but losing cultures at the Titans, Cowboys, Bulldogs, Dragons and Newcastle over many years haven’t brought them the same amount of negative press.

Imagine revitalising all those fan bases by introducing some change so that they can compete with the glamour clubs. people would come out of the wood work.

Fair point and I'm not sure why people are jumping on you about your opinion. Some weird folk around here.

Fortunately or or unfortunately ( depending on who you support) the NRL is now a big business and needs to make money. Money is generated on ads and getting clicks. To attract the clicks they need a headline to stand out or a topic that's salacious enough to attract the most people across all teams supporter base. Good saying for this type of business model is " if it bleeds, it leads" and we all know Wests bleeds.

I think your annoyance should probably be aimed at the club. Disastrous on field results, horrible player selection and retention, players owning dressing rooms, coaching musical chairs, more home grounds than finals appearances (~_~) ceo's making dodgy deals, players jumping through fences...You get my point. At this stage, Wests are literally writing, directing, producing and releasing the drama themselves. The NRL is just reporting it.

Not saying I'm any better. If this was Parra getting kicked I'd be clicking all the ads, links, articles i can find.

Thanks for the lengthy reply mate it’s nice to hear some reasoned discussion.

I certainly agree WT is not blameless in the position we find ourselves in. I’ve been pretty vocal on that bandwagon too.

But we are also up against a backwards system that sends Joseph Suaalii to the most talented roster in the Comp. It’s 100% a scam.

 

[tigerbalm]

Might be an opinion piece based loosely on a players comments but it comes up under news on the NRL site. So the NRL is reporting that the training standards at Penrith are higher than WT when a ball is yet to be kicked. Does Madge know about this news? NRL has a serious integrity problem and this is just more evidence of it. If I was working for the club I’d be asking PVL to take it down. The NRL should stick to running a Comp that more than 2-3 teams can realistically win.

Wow, that's a bit unhinged based on comments from a bloke who barely made Tigers first team?

It's not an opinion piece, its a report including a player's comments. NRL are not reporting that training standards at Penrith are higher, NRL are reporting that Matt Eisenhuth has certain comments differentiating Panthers and Tigers.

You actually read the article, right? My summary is actually Eisenhuth isn't really bad-mouthing Tigers, he is differentiating between a team that has just played finals (Grand Final) football and a side that has not.

Here are the quotes
>"The standard is a lot higher than what I'm used to, to be fair, but it's exciting," Eisenhuth told NRL.com.

>"The players are just a bit more confident because they know where they've been and if you're not ready to go you get left behind.

>"It's a different sort of energy level and vibe compared to what I was used to. It's refreshing and sometimes you need a change.

>"That's not to say the playing group at the Tigers weren't confident but winning and playing finals footy breeds confidence.

>"It's enjoyable to come to training and to be fair it got a bit unlike that at the Tigers towards the end of the season.

Pretty clear that Eisenhuth is drawing a distinction about playing for a side that has just come off a successful season.

That’s fine mate but I don’t need the NRL to report it to me as news. I want their resources to be better directed towards juniors, growing the sport, refereeing, improving talent distribution, the judiciary. Why pay someone to write dribble?

The NRL has a media department, this has been an income producer for the NRL.

The off field, NRL media machine is a huge money earner in its own right.
Articles like this don't bother me it amuses me.some get their panties so bunched by it.... But they have been guilty imo of jumping on the gossip/drama bandwagon instigated by other media.
Bad/negative news sells more clicks than good news and they're happy to promote their organisation in a bad light all for $$$

There’s a huge positive out of this , being , that we know that team culture was a shambles at the end of last year . Seriously , the older guys must have been kicking rocks big time for that to be a thing that’s mentioned , and a clear culture change for eiso . As soon as benji didn’t get what he wanted , the last 7 weeks were what we got . That’s so frustrating To hear , but I thank Matt for his honesty

And the NRL is really giving us a leg up in actually signing some decent players by perpetuating this narrative a year on? They should stick to painting the fields and buying footys.

Why do you care man ? It’s not a narrative if it’s true! we were all speculating at that time and the benji nrl360 interviews etc .
The team went from top 6 defence to playing 36-32 games .
The only way that happens is everyone has checked out .
Then it was the benji Marshall audition , for a job . Absolute garbage really . Many of us were saying it at the time , it reeked to high heaven . He didn’t want to grind because his stats would take a hit .
Im sorry , but it’s obvious to me , this is what was going down . Guys saying I need to get my highlight reel up or I’m working at Bunnings this time next year.

Whatever people think, It paints the club in a bad light on the eve of a new season when we are still actively in the market for players. I can cop that from the wider media but it is not what I want to see from an organisation that claims to have integrity.

I really don't know why you are worked up over this. I hardly think the club or players are losing sleep over this.

It’s symbolic of wider problems

The fix is to win games. Until we do that Wests Tigers are an easy target, we have nothing to back up or refute any bad press. Winning games is all that matters.

Being saying it for 10 years. Until it eventuates, meh. Winning games brings crowds, sponsors and elite players to the club and stomps on any bad press.

Win games and it all goes away.

Our recruitment has been steady and deliberate, I got bagged out for saying it in October but it will be the thing that puts us in the winners circle. I expect 2021 to be better than 2020 and I expect 2022 to be even better.

People have been using the ‘we have to start winning games’ argument for years Mike, but losing cultures at the Titans, Cowboys, Bulldogs, Dragons and Newcastle over many years haven’t brought them the same amount of negative press.

Imagine revitalising all those fan bases by introducing some change so that they can compete with the glamour clubs. people would come out of the wood work.

Fair point and I'm not sure why people are jumping on you about your opinion. Some weird folk around here.

Fortunately or or unfortunately ( depending on who you support) the NRL is now a big business and needs to make money. Money is generated on ads and getting clicks. To attract the clicks they need a headline to stand out or a topic that's salacious enough to attract the most people across all teams supporter base. Good saying for this type of business model is " if it bleeds, it leads" and we all know Wests bleeds.

I think your annoyance should probably be aimed at the club. Disastrous on field results, horrible player selection and retention, players owning dressing rooms, coaching musical chairs, more home grounds than finals appearances (~_~) ceo's making dodgy deals, players jumping through fences...You get my point. At this stage, Wests are literally writing, directing, producing and releasing the drama themselves. The NRL is just reporting it.

Not saying I'm any better. If this was Parra getting kicked I'd be clicking all the ads, links, articles i can find.

Thanks for the lengthy reply mate it’s nice to hear some reasoned discussion.

I certainly agree WT is not blameless in the position we find ourselves in. I’ve been pretty vocal on that bandwagon too.

**But we are also up against a backwards system that sends Joseph Suaalii to the most talented roster in the Comp. It’s 100% a scam.**

That's a whole new discussion lol.