NRL Simply the Best 2020..

[pawsandclaws1]

On political correctness, Ch9 about 30 minutes ago the roving male reporter was with a folksy style SA band of all males. He made a comment that they (the band members) were easy on the eye. If a male reporter had made that comment about a female band can you imagine the faux outrage? The double standards in this country are disgraceful.

 

[jirskyr]

The reality is, vehicle ads showcase what you can do with the car and **they have a target market in mind.**

Thank you, case closed.

 

[jirskyr]

It’s hardly political because there are 3 seconds of an aboriginal flag and a still image of a kiss.

The other point also is that "that kiss" is a defining image of the new women's game. It has sort of become the Provan/Summons moment for the women's game to date. It's not just or specifically about the NRL making a point about inclusiveness, that image was posted all over the papers and media at the time and it represents more than just two women in a relationship.

We'll note that the ad goes on to show Benji's flick pass, Viking clapping, Thurston GF drop-goal... all powerful images and memories in the modern game.

 

[innsaneink]

Did not think we needed LM standing, looking out with an aboriginal flag draped over him.

This is a football ad, not a political statement - one day they will get it right.

Cam as a kid ....didn't need it.

It’s his flag representing his people. Bet you wouldn’t have an issue if Liddle was there draped in the Australian flag.

Should've had Gallen on Cronulla beach in an Aus flag ??

 

[Geo]

The outrage the non outrage the outrage at those who are outraged is pretty funny..

Didn’t think when I posted the ad there would be 253 posts in less than 24 hrs... outrageous

 

[innsaneink]

Ive got a few questions, Why would the nrl want to make the ad political like just why cause these days people are just going to get upset over everything and its bound to upset someone, and why does mitchel have to let every one know he is aboriginal and always got to display that he is, I understand he is proud but so is everyone else about their nationality don't understand why he gotta be extrinsic abut it

Controversy = publicity.
People and media talk about it... Others that haven't seen it then seek it... They in turn may talk about it and on it goes

 

[weststigers]

The reality is, vehicle ads showcase what you can do with the car and **they have a target market in mind.**

Thank you, case closed.

Case closed? ok...whatever you say.

 

[weststigers]

It’s hardly political because there are 3 seconds of an aboriginal flag and a still image of a kiss.

The other point also is that "that kiss" is a defining image of the new women's game. It has sort of become the Provan/Summons moment for the women's game to date. It's not just or specifically about the NRL making a point about inclusiveness, that image was posted all over the papers and media at the time and it represents more than just two women in a relationship.

We'll note that the ad goes on to show Benji's flick pass, Viking clapping, Thurston GF drop-goal... all powerful images and memories in the modern game.

"love is love" slogans and Macklemore singing about same-sex marriage in the same breath as the image is defining?

We might just have to agree to disagree. Honestly, I found that part to be irrelevant to Rugby League as a game and just smacked of trying to be woke and make a political statement - the rest I really enjoyed. Glad they changed it to simply focus on the game.

 

[twentyforty]

Imagine actually caring about a commercial

I guess that’s what Abdo was hoping for, than after many “uncaring “ footy fans have seen the ad 50 times and mumbling the words to the song in their sleep , along with the images, it has become too late to care.

 

[Goldust]

Imagine actually caring about a commercial


I guess that’s what Abdo was hoping for, than after many “uncaring “ footy fans have seen the ad 50 times and mumbling the words to the song in their sleep , along with the images, it has become too late to care.

Not wrong,the song has been stuck in my head for the past 24 hours ?

 

[twentyforty]

On political correctness, Ch9 about 30 minutes ago the roving male reporter was with a folksy style SA band of all males. He made a comment that they (the band members) were easy on the eye. If a male reporter had made that comment about a female band can you imagine the faux outrage? The double standards in this country are disgraceful.

Double standards = Bullying.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Ive got a few questions, Why would the nrl want to make the ad political like just why cause these days people are just going to get upset over everything and its bound to upset someone, and why does mitchel have to let every one know he is aboriginal and always got to display that he is, I understand he is proud but so is everyone else about their nationality don't understand why he gotta be extrinsic abut it

Because, rightly or wrongly a portion of society feel the need to constantly express their identity. Whether that be Aboriginality, Sexuality , Gender .. whatever. The t frustrates me most of the time because of how it actually spreads division not inclusiveness.
But this ad , does the exact opposite.
The tone is nostalgic, and it also embraces all these new forms of the game like woman’s , touch etc. and also brings up all the issues in the last 30 years including the worst thing of all Super league.
The pause for Lattrell , was a bit on the nose , and as subtle as an atom bomb but I’m not sure how you do that. My only question considering the huge influx of Polynesian players is why something similar didn’t happen for them. If all’s fair and equal.
I think it’s topical , it gets people talking , which is the point of an AD!!!
Maybe some kind of pause for different tribes on the beach doing war dances would have been better ? It drives home the fact that the games participants ,aesthetically, are very different Than in 1990.
If you’re whinging about the LGBT stuff , than have a look in the mirror !! RL is a tough game , so the reality that the woman’s game might have a large percentage of LGBT types playing hasn’t dawned on you yet ?
The girl at the end playing footy in the house , is indicative of the times . And so it should be . How many girls kicked ass as juniors back in the day only to be told at 12 .. see you later find another sport !
I’m definitely not “woke”. But you don’t have to be to see this ad does what it should . It embraces all . But could be better , with the flag stuff . That part seems half baked .

 

[jirskyr]

I really wish that people would invest the same energy in addressing climate change, or the needs of the poor and minorities, or cancer research, as they do in complaining about ads.

"See I'm not complaining about the lesbians or the aboriginals, I just don't need that stuff in my footy ads. I'm totally about being inclusive, I just don't want to hear about it, I just want footy in my footy ads."

Ads for god's sake. Next there will be complaints "why is there an All-Stars match, why not matches to celebrate being European?" or "why do women get a specific round, where is the men's round?"

 

[jirskyr]

It’s hardly political because there are 3 seconds of an aboriginal flag and a still image of a kiss.

The other point also is that "that kiss" is a defining image of the new women's game. It has sort of become the Provan/Summons moment for the women's game to date. It's not just or specifically about the NRL making a point about inclusiveness, that image was posted all over the papers and media at the time and it represents more than just two women in a relationship.

We'll note that the ad goes on to show Benji's flick pass, Viking clapping, Thurston GF drop-goal... all powerful images and memories in the modern game.

"love is love" slogans and Macklemore singing about same-sex marriage in the same breath as the image is defining?

We might just have to agree to disagree. Honestly, I found that part to be irrelevant to Rugby League as a game and just smacked of trying to be woke and make a political statement - the rest I really enjoyed. Glad they changed it to simply focus on the game.

Yeah it's a defining image. Macklemore at the GF was as defining for rugby league as Tina Turner appearing, or Billy Idol's power outage, or the giant Optus Telly falling apart. NRL scored massive public brownie points for having Macklemore perform; personally I wasn't fussed about the message so much as an opportunity to avoid having Grinspoon go around again.

But you are right we'll have to agree to disagree. I can't understand how you don't see that RL is more than a game to many people, more than just footy and blokes on a field. I think it means a lot more to a young aboriginal boy to see someone like Inglis or Latrell starring in NRL ads, compared to some white kid looking at Cameron Smith. Same for same-sex minorities. Whether or not NRL attempted to be political, and they are saying they were not going for that, I recognise that I don't understand precisely what NRL means to everyone, but I know it means different things to different people.

So why you bother complaining about small parts of an ad, I'll never know. I started off not caring, until I saw all the complaints. Obviously my finger is on a different pulse.

 

[jirskyr]

I am also 99.9999% sure that the people complaining about the ad are not homosexual nor aboriginal.

 

[twentyforty]

Ive got a few questions, Why would the nrl want to make the ad political like just why cause these days people are just going to get upset over everything and its bound to upset someone, and why does mitchel have to let every one know he is aboriginal and always got to display that he is, I understand he is proud but so is everyone else about their nationality don't understand why he gotta be extrinsic abut it


Because, rightly or wrongly a portion of society feel the need to constantly express their identity. Whether that be Aboriginality, Sexuality , Gender .. whatever. The t frustrates me most of the time because of how it actually spreads division not inclusiveness.
But this ad , does the exact opposite.
The tone is nostalgic, and it also embraces all these new forms of the game like woman’s , touch etc. and also brings up all the issues in the last 30 years including the worst thing of all Super league.
The pause for Lattrell , was a bit on the nose , and as subtle as an atom bomb but I’m not sure how you do that. My only question considering the huge influx of Polynesian players is why something similar didn’t happen for them. If all’s fair and equal.
I think it’s topical , it gets people talking , which is the point of an AD!!!
Maybe some kind of pause for different tribes on the beach doing war dances would have been better ? It drives home the fact that the games participants ,aesthetically, are very different Than in 1990.
If you’re whinging about the LGBT stuff , than have a look in the mirror !! RL is a tough game , so the reality that the woman’s game might have a large percentage of LGBT types playing hasn’t dawned on you yet ?
The girl at the end playing footy in the house , is indicative of the times . And so it should be . How many girls kicked ass as juniors back in the day only to be told at 12 .. see you later find another sport !
I’m definitely not “woke”. But you don’t have to be to see this ad does what it should . It embraces all . But could be better , with the flag stuff . That part seems half baked .

The point you make about Pacific Islanders being a major part of the game and their lack of representation in the ad serves to highlight the obvious political theme. Perhaps this is encouragement for the Island nations to dig up some old bones and find an enemy? Can’t see it happening, they’re strongly family focused and easy going really nice people.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I really wish that people would invest the same energy in addressing climate change, or the needs of the poor and minorities, or cancer research, as they do in complaining about ads.

"See I'm not complaining about the lesbians or the aboriginals, I just don't need that stuff in my footy ads. I'm totally about being inclusive, I just don't want to hear about it, I just want footy in my footy ads."

Ads for god's sake. Next there will be complaints "why is there an All-Stars match, why not matches to celebrate being European?" or "why do women get a specific round, where is the men's round?"

Somehow climate change is second to this rubbish ? I was speaking to someone the other day and they made a good point . Most of this Tribalism stuff popped up around the same time as everyone under the age of 35, realised that buying a home near where all the work is , is going to be tough without help . This is global by the way ! The wealth inequality getting worse has made everyone look at each other and start fighting with each other. ... again !

 

[jirskyr]

Tribalism

Tribalism is over-rated. Sport exists to help us purge our tribal nature without resorting to violence.

Tribalism in eons past meant that your neighbour with the biggest gun / sword / club / stone would smash your head in an steal all your stuff.

 

[Russell]

I am not offended FG, I just don't see how you can misinterpret what a lot of people are saying on here.

The point is - why put stuff in the ad that makes it political. It could have been a good ad, it didn't need stuff "outside football."

Firstly, yes, there are aboriginals playing League and about 59 other nationalities as well, Why were they not singled out as well?
Secondly, Why the Aboriginal flag? Why not the Lebanese, Samoan, New Zealand, PNG flag etc. It's not that the Aboriginal flag was used, but why not the others. If you are only going to use one, then don't use any.
Thirdly, the child singing - they could have used a child that could sing on key for the whole section of the song she had, as small as it was. Let's try and pinch the Qantas idea - "children singing, I still call Australia home" - Well NRL, it did not work.
Fourthly, The kiss on the lips by two women - This is what the women's game is about, I don't think so. I love watching the NRLW, women giving there all, yes there are probably Gay women playing and there are a lot that are not. The tiny snippit for women in the ad was token stuff, the NRL should be ashamed. Someone on her said that "the kiss" could be the equivalent of the Provan/Summons moment for women - selling women along way short I'd say.

I'm not striking at any vulnerable people with my keyboard, nor am I, a by product of anything. I do however stand up for quality, fairness and equal opportunity.

I am a great believer in if you are going t o make/run a Rugby League ad - keep it to the subject matter, maybe then you would have 100% of the viewers giving you Kudos for a great for the game they love.

 

[twentyforty]

I really wish that people would invest the same energy in addressing climate change, or the needs of the poor and minorities, or cancer research, as they do in complaining about ads.

"See I'm not complaining about the lesbians or the aboriginals, I just don't need that stuff in my footy ads. I'm totally about being inclusive, I just don't want to hear about it, I just want footy in my footy ads."

Ads for god's sake. Next there will be complaints "why is there an All-Stars match, why not matches to celebrate being European?" or "why do women get a specific round, where is the men's round?"

Somehow climate change is second to this rubbish ? I was speaking to someone the other day and they made a good point . Most of this Tribalism stuff popped up around the same time as everyone under the age of 35, realised that buying a home near where all the work is , is going to be tough without help . This is global by the way ! The wealth inequality getting worse has made everyone look at each other and start fighting with each other. ... again !

That theory could be accurate but it doesn’t explain why the tribes who may have previously been opposed by idealism are now working together. When the meat haters campaign so do the women’s rights, gay rights , etc.
The only plausible explanation is that they were organised by a global movement with a vested interest. These people are , in many cases violent and filled with hate and rage developing since the 1980’s.