Official Moses Mbye signs till 2022..

[marzie]

theres a decent chance he could be with us from Round 13, deal for remainder of the season could be done before next tuesday

 

[Demps]

Cleary has just completed our spine for the next 4 years. 1\. Mbye 6\. Reynolds 7\. Brooks 9\. Liddle. Tui becomes the utility back from ISP.
Marshall will retire into a role with the WT.

We need to sign a gun edge backrower, back up hooker, back up prop and back up centre or two.

If we can get a hooker and edge forward this year we will get a top 8 position.

Just cant see Reynolds lasting another three years, still not convinced that Mbye is a longterm fullback, and Liddle - can see it, but he has got to be able to sustain it.
But if it works, then Ivan has done well.

100%
I don't think that's a sustainable spine.

Josh Reynolds is very broken…
Rather see something like...

1\. Mbye
6\. Brooks
7\. Cleary
9\. Liddle

If Liddle is too injury prone, recruit Liicha or Matt Parcell.

Can Josh Drinkwater play hooker?

What about Gamble?
Not much noise around him yet, but I’d like to see how he goes in 1st grade, might take a halves position of someone.

Gamble is a dud.

 

[swag_tiger]

Just cant see Reynolds lasting another three years, still not convinced that Mbye is a longterm fullback, and Liddle - can see it, but he has got to be able to sustain it.
But if it works, then Ivan has done well.

100%
I don't think that's a sustainable spine.

Josh Reynolds is very broken…
Rather see something like...

1\. Mbye
6\. Brooks
7\. Cleary
9\. Liddle

If Liddle is too injury prone, recruit Liicha or Matt Parcell.

Can Josh Drinkwater play hooker?

What about Gamble?
Not much noise around him yet, but I’d like to see how he goes in 1st grade, might take a halves position of someone.

Gamble is a dud.

You were all for him at the start of the year
Did you have a falling though? :roll

 

[swag_tiger]

theres a decent chance he could be with us from Round 13, deal for remainder of the season could be done before next tuesday

What position would he play then?

 

[Strider]

I'm keen as for Mbye! Next up a damaging 2nd row please

 

[Demps]

100%
I don't think that's a sustainable spine.

Josh Reynolds is very broken…
Rather see something like...

1\. Mbye
6\. Brooks
7\. Cleary
9\. Liddle

If Liddle is too injury prone, recruit Liicha or Matt Parcell.

Can Josh Drinkwater play hooker?

What about Gamble?
Not much noise around him yet, but I’d like to see how he goes in 1st grade, might take a halves position of someone.

Gamble is a dud.

You were all for him at the start of the year
Did you have a falling though? :roll

You got me confused with some one else.
I've only seen him play in ISC and he's been disappointing.

 

[The_Queen]

On Foxsports news they just reported that yes he has just been sent up to QLD to get the feeling of being in the Origin camp (emerging Maroons) .. and more importantly that he could be playing for the Tigers before the 30 Jun deadline as this will free up some money in the Dogs cap problem .. cause if he plays for the Tigers before the 30 Jun deadline he off the Dogs cap/books and part of our 2018 cap .. so pretty sure he will be playing in the Black, Orange and White within two weeks .. !!

Welcome about Moses .. :sign:

When do the Tigers have the bye before June 30 ?

 

[colmcd]

He has been sent to QLD Origin camp as plans to develop future players.

But according to the Kennel he’s worse than Ben Roberts :slight_smile:

Then Ben Roberts must have improved a lot.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/state-of-origin/teams/queensland/moses-mbye-called-into-queensland-camp-as-maroons-18th-man/news-story/244107f7f311f21ce42267c7a0208dcc?nk=3ab09968ca2da46d9e5c9eb1a67fd80f-1527654113

Weird. I agree with the Kennel, he is probably a nothing.
But 18th man in a Maroons squad will be awesome for him. There is every possibility of a last minute call up.

 

[teddy23]

Brooks took a pay cut last year when Ivan re did the contracts for the fab 4.

550k

Thought he'd be on 350k Tops

No one knows what players are on so pointless guessing

Wouldn't be surprised if Benji pulls the plug after this year… I don't really get the excitement some are displaying re Mbye... He reminds me of Tui

That's my point too. This thread is full of comments about value for money or "overs". What does anyone here really know about how much players are on and how much they are actually worth? How can any fans here claim to know what is being spent or what is value in the current market.

Many people don't even know for sure what their peers are earning in their relative industries, so why would you claim or even bother to guess what footballers earn?

teddy23 wrote:
Sat 26 May, 2018 5:46 pm
I hope we aren’t paying 700k cause that’s overs
>
Would’ve been happy with 500k
>
Reynolds and Moses Mbye both on 1.45 mil combined a season
>
Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge Cleary fan but I’m sick of hearing the “Cleary wont spend overs on one player” but we’re paying massive overs for both those two big time imo
>
Hope it pays off but oh boy for 1.45 mil we could do a lot better

This is one example. What is "overs" and how many fans have first-hand experience balancing a sporting team salary cap with the needs of a professional footballing roster? What is "massive overs"? Such dumb comments honestly, based on nothing but fantasy and foggy numbers.

Just worry about how Mbye contributes to the club on and off field, and leave the salary cap mgmt to the professionals. Yeah sometimes they balls it up (Canterbury) but regardless, fan opinions about salaries and values is pointless - you have no influence and the numbers aren't even concrete.

And even if we engage teddy23 specifically on his comments, what are they based on? Rumour? 700K is 7.44% of the current salary cap ($9.4M), isn't that a reasonable figure? The average salary of Top 30 is $313K, you wouldn't pay your likely starting fullback double the average of the entire Top 30? That's right! How would you even know what is reasonable or normal?

My comments are based on opinion and I stand by that

It's been reported all over this forum and by the media that Reynolds is on 750k a season, along with Mbye being on 700k for year 3 and 4 once again not saying these are the figures but I'm basing it on these numbers

Mbye and Reynolds together on a figure of 1.45 in there later years of the contract too are overs in comparison to what we could've got imo

Love Josh Reynolds's energy but mate he's been here for half a season and has already copped 2x 6 week injuries and played a total of about 50-60 mins in half a season, and there were question marks on his hammys when he signed…. I hope he carves up cause he seems like a guy you'd want around your club

Once again I'm gonna highlight the fact that it's my opinion and if you cant understand the fact that a public forum contains many different perspectives you shouldn't be on a forum if you can't accept that all us fans have the right to question the value of signings on this forum

 

[FOD001]

Thought he'd be on 350k Tops

No one knows what players are on so pointless guessing

Wouldn't be surprised if Benji pulls the plug after this year… I don't really get the excitement some are displaying re Mbye... He reminds me of Tui

That's my point too. This thread is full of comments about value for money or "overs". What does anyone here really know about how much players are on and how much they are actually worth? How can any fans here claim to know what is being spent or what is value in the current market.

Many people don't even know for sure what their peers are earning in their relative industries, so why would you claim or even bother to guess what footballers earn?

teddy23 wrote:
Sat 26 May, 2018 5:46 pm
I hope we aren’t paying 700k cause that’s overs
>
Would’ve been happy with 500k
>
Reynolds and Moses Mbye both on 1.45 mil combined a season
>
Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge Cleary fan but I’m sick of hearing the “Cleary wont spend overs on one player” but we’re paying massive overs for both those two big time imo
>
Hope it pays off but oh boy for 1.45 mil we could do a lot better

This is one example. What is "overs" and how many fans have first-hand experience balancing a sporting team salary cap with the needs of a professional footballing roster? What is "massive overs"? Such dumb comments honestly, based on nothing but fantasy and foggy numbers.

Just worry about how Mbye contributes to the club on and off field, and leave the salary cap mgmt to the professionals. Yeah sometimes they balls it up (Canterbury) but regardless, fan opinions about salaries and values is pointless - you have no influence and the numbers aren't even concrete.

And even if we engage teddy23 specifically on his comments, what are they based on? Rumour? 700K is 7.44% of the current salary cap ($9.4M), isn't that a reasonable figure? The average salary of Top 30 is $313K, you wouldn't pay your likely starting fullback double the average of the entire Top 30? That's right! How would you even know what is reasonable or normal?

My comments are based on opinion and I stand by that

It's been reported all over this forum and by the media that Reynolds is on 750k a season, along with Mbye being on 700k for year 3 and 4 once again not saying these are the figures but I'm basing it on these numbers

Mbye and Reynolds together on a figure of 1.45 in there later years of the contract too are overs in comparison to what we could've got imo

Love Josh Reynolds's energy but mate he's been here for half a season and has already copped 2x 6 week injuries and played a total of about 50-60 mins in half a season, and there were question marks on his hammys when he signed…. I hope he carves up cause he seems like a guy you'd want around your club

Once again I'm gonna highlight the fact that it's my opinion and if you cant understand the fact that a public forum contains many different perspectives you shouldn't be on a forum if you can't accept that all us fans have the right to question the value of signings on this forum

I agree with you Teddy it’s just an opinion and I for one enjoy your valuable posts

 

[teddy23]

No one knows what players are on so pointless guessing

Wouldn't be surprised if Benji pulls the plug after this year… I don't really get the excitement some are displaying re Mbye... He reminds me of Tui

That's my point too. This thread is full of comments about value for money or "overs". What does anyone here really know about how much players are on and how much they are actually worth? How can any fans here claim to know what is being spent or what is value in the current market.

Many people don't even know for sure what their peers are earning in their relative industries, so why would you claim or even bother to guess what footballers earn?

teddy23 wrote:
Sat 26 May, 2018 5:46 pm
I hope we aren’t paying 700k cause that’s overs
>
Would’ve been happy with 500k
>
Reynolds and Moses Mbye both on 1.45 mil combined a season
>
Don’t get me wrong I’m a huge Cleary fan but I’m sick of hearing the “Cleary wont spend overs on one player” but we’re paying massive overs for both those two big time imo
>
Hope it pays off but oh boy for 1.45 mil we could do a lot better

This is one example. What is "overs" and how many fans have first-hand experience balancing a sporting team salary cap with the needs of a professional footballing roster? What is "massive overs"? Such dumb comments honestly, based on nothing but fantasy and foggy numbers.

Just worry about how Mbye contributes to the club on and off field, and leave the salary cap mgmt to the professionals. Yeah sometimes they balls it up (Canterbury) but regardless, fan opinions about salaries and values is pointless - you have no influence and the numbers aren't even concrete.

And even if we engage teddy23 specifically on his comments, what are they based on? Rumour? 700K is 7.44% of the current salary cap ($9.4M), isn't that a reasonable figure? The average salary of Top 30 is $313K, you wouldn't pay your likely starting fullback double the average of the entire Top 30? That's right! How would you even know what is reasonable or normal?

My comments are based on opinion and I stand by that

It's been reported all over this forum and by the media that Reynolds is on 750k a season, along with Mbye being on 700k for year 3 and 4 once again not saying these are the figures but I'm basing it on these numbers

Mbye and Reynolds together on a figure of 1.45 in there later years of the contract too are overs in comparison to what we could've got imo

Love Josh Reynolds's energy but mate he's been here for half a season and has already copped 2x 6 week injuries and played a total of about 50-60 mins in half a season, and there were question marks on his hammys when he signed…. I hope he carves up cause he seems like a guy you'd want around your club

Once again I'm gonna highlight the fact that it's my opinion and if you cant understand the fact that a public forum contains many different perspectives you shouldn't be on a forum if you can't accept that all us fans have the right to question the value of signings on this forum

I agree with you Teddy it’s just an opinion and I for one enjoy your valuable posts

Cheers mate, likewise

 

[TigerSJ]

the undefeated with Lolohea in the team is funny..

Keep picking him Ivan I'm sure we will go the rest of the season undefeated..

Unless circumstances have changed Mbye is for 2019..so lucky we have Lolohea..the lucky charm..

Undefeated with Reynolds playing as well, 2/2.

Undefeated when I wear my lucky socks and watch the game down at my local…. oh yeah, I have to snap up one of those high tables with the stools as well. Wondering if its more about me than Tui or Reynolds!

 

[Geo]

I also found earlier in the season not changing the game day undies worked…for a while

 

[Tiger2135]

"Lucky undies" not working for Sharon

 

[FOD001]

I also found earlier in the season not changing the game day undies worked…for a while

Everyone has lucky game day undies…... you’re strange if you don’t 😆

 

[Bee-Em]

That's my point too. This thread is full of comments about value for money or "overs". What does anyone here really know about how much players are on and how much they are actually worth? How can any fans here claim to know what is being spent or what is value in the current market.

Many people don't even know for sure what their peers are earning in their relative industries, so why would you claim or even bother to guess what footballers earn?
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This is one example. What is "overs" and how many fans have first-hand experience balancing a sporting team salary cap with the needs of a professional footballing roster? What is "massive overs"? Such dumb comments honestly, based on nothing but fantasy and foggy numbers.

Just worry about how Mbye contributes to the club on and off field, and leave the salary cap mgmt to the professionals. Yeah sometimes they balls it up (Canterbury) but regardless, fan opinions about salaries and values is pointless - you have no influence and the numbers aren't even concrete.

And even if we engage teddy23 specifically on his comments, what are they based on? Rumour? 700K is 7.44% of the current salary cap ($9.4M), isn't that a reasonable figure? The average salary of Top 30 is $313K, you wouldn't pay your likely starting fullback double the average of the entire Top 30? That's right! How would you even know what is reasonable or normal?

My comments are based on opinion and I stand by that

It's been reported all over this forum and by the media that Reynolds is on 750k a season, along with Mbye being on 700k for year 3 and 4 once again not saying these are the figures but I'm basing it on these numbers

Mbye and Reynolds together on a figure of 1.45 in there later years of the contract too are overs in comparison to what we could've got imo

Love Josh Reynolds's energy but mate he's been here for half a season and has already copped 2x 6 week injuries and played a total of about 50-60 mins in half a season, and there were question marks on his hammys when he signed…. I hope he carves up cause he seems like a guy you'd want around your club

Once again I'm gonna highlight the fact that it's my opinion and if you cant understand the fact that a public forum contains many different perspectives you shouldn't be on a forum if you can't accept that all us fans have the right to question the value of signings on this forum

I agree with you Teddy it’s just an opinion and I for one enjoy your valuable posts

Cheers mate, likewise

I suppose you could argue if $700k-$750k will be considered excessive 2-3 years down the track? It would obviously depend on the cap (assuming it will be going up), the players form at the time and the going rate for a player that is in form.

$750k might be considered average in 2 years time?

 

[teddy23]

My comments are based on opinion and I stand by that

It's been reported all over this forum and by the media that Reynolds is on 750k a season, along with Mbye being on 700k for year 3 and 4 once again not saying these are the figures but I'm basing it on these numbers

Mbye and Reynolds together on a figure of 1.45 in there later years of the contract too are overs in comparison to what we could've got imo

Love Josh Reynolds's energy but mate he's been here for half a season and has already copped 2x 6 week injuries and played a total of about 50-60 mins in half a season, and there were question marks on his hammys when he signed…. I hope he carves up cause he seems like a guy you'd want around your club

Once again I'm gonna highlight the fact that it's my opinion and if you cant understand the fact that a public forum contains many different perspectives you shouldn't be on a forum if you can't accept that all us fans have the right to question the value of signings on this forum

I agree with you Teddy it’s just an opinion and I for one enjoy your valuable posts

Cheers mate, likewise

I suppose you could argue if $700k-$750k will be considered excessive 2-3 years down the track? It would obviously depend on the cap (assuming it will be going up), the players form at the time and the going rate for a player that is in form.

$750k might be considered average in 2 years time?

100% we don't know the figures or what they will be in 2-3 years time

But basing it on the current salary cap for me

 

[jrtiger]

theres a decent chance he could be with us from Round 13, deal for remainder of the season could be done before next tuesday

What position would he play then?

Um, Fullback?

 

[Tweed_Tiger]

No mention on Bulldogs twitter about Mbye making the QLD team as 18th man.


I think there is a good chance we see him before june 30.

 

[Balmainian]

Just cant see Reynolds lasting another three years, still not convinced that Mbye is a longterm fullback, and Liddle - can see it, but he has got to be able to sustain it.
But if it works, then Ivan has done well.

100%
I don't think that's a sustainable spine.

Josh Reynolds is very broken…
Rather see something like...

1\. Mbye
6\. Brooks
7\. Cleary
9\. Liddle

If Liddle is too injury prone, recruit Liicha or Matt Parcell.

Can Josh Drinkwater play hooker?

What about Gamble?
Not much noise around him yet, but I’d like to see how he goes in 1st grade, might take a halves position of someone.

Gamble is a dud.

Really!
Seems to be doing well in isp.