Official: Three Life Members to lead coaching succession plan

twentyforty said:
Paws, I can’t share your hatred of Madge, from what I could see he had upset a few people because of his aggressive winning style. The number grew to a point where some players and front office were being negative toward the club. I personally didn’t like Madge’s approach, much prefer the counsellor style, and the more the players rejected it, the harder Madge went. I thought he had mellowed after the first review. The majority of players played for Madge.
This is and has been a real issue for WT. key people getting ostracised, then sacked, because of poor lines of communication.
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I don't hate Madge, I've read he is a decent guy. From my view, the game evolved, but Madge didn't. He tried to play a game which our squad could not implement. Also that unbending, inflexible and stubborn approach must be wearing during a long season. Sheens by contrast is an excellent communicator, an innovator and student of the game. Imo, the two are diametrically the opposite.
 
tigre said:
Farah has spoken. Via the daily telegraph:

Robbie Farah says he is ready to play his role as part of the trio who have been brought in to save the Tigers.

Farah will step up his involvement with the NRL side next season as a full-time assistant coach having worked with the squad on a part-time capacity in the past two years.

He will do so alongside Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall. Unlike Marshall who has clear ambitions to be a first grade coach, Farah said he was unsure if it was a path he wanted to pursue. He has been given the position for the next two seasons.

“The motivation is to work alongside Benji and Tim to get this club back to where it belongs,” Farah said. “There is no doubt it’s going to be a bit challenge. None of us are happy with how the club has performed.

“When the club approached me about going back into footy full-time it was something I had to consider. I have a lot going on away from footy and it’s something that I’ve enjoyed. But none of those businesses give you the purpose and get competitive juices flowing like footy does. Benji was 100 per cent committed to head coaching. For me I don’t know.”

Farah has spent time running the blue shirt for the Tigers and has transitioned into sitting alongside interim coach Brett Kimmorley in the box in recent weeks. He said Sheens and Marshall have a pretty clear mandate about the style of football they want to play.

“The game went through a phrase a lot of structured footy, wrestle but we’ve seen with the new rule changes the game has opened up,” Farah said. “The way Tim coached us was to be creative, confident and back our ability and play that Tigers style of footy. When it is done well it can be very productive and positive.

“For us we will be providing our players with the platform to express themselves and showcase their talents.”

The trio also want to ensure the best Tigers juniors stay with the club. Farah hopes their status in the game may also attract players to the club.

“We speak about the kids coming through and it is a similar crop to when myself and Benji were coming through,” Farah said. “There is no one better than Sheensy to nurture them and for us to learn. It’s an attraction for kids to stay and play under Tim, Benji and myself and when Benji takes over he will be a huge attraction for players.”
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When Farah says he wants to “work with Tim and Benji to get the club back to where it belongs” what is he referring to?
9th Place on the ladder?
 
stryker 69 said:
When Farah says he wants to “work with Tim and Benji to get the club back to where it belongs” what is he referring to?
9th Place on the ladder?
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We’ve made it into the top eight, three times, the other 19 times were a nightmare.
It’s an interesting question, where do we belong?
I hope the players have a differing opinion to our competitors.
 
finnzo said:
You gotta hand it to club since we got knocked back from ciraldo there hasn’t been 1 leak about there plans of benji been head coach. The media would have been all over it im not sure how they kept it under wraps
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Perhaps because benji has his way now
 

‘He will succeed’: Bennett backs Tigers’ Marshall plan​


Wayne Bennett has ridiculed suggestions Benji Marshall hasn’t got the coaching experience required to successfully transition into the job amid revelations Wests Tigers tried to lure another premiership hero back to the club.

A decade after sacking him, the Tigers have announced they will reinstall Sheens as coach for 2023-24, with Marshall and Robbie Farah as his assistants. Sheens will then step down to allow Marshall to take over on a three-year deal. The reunion of key members of the 2005 premiership success could have been larger still had Cowboys coach Todd Payten accepted an invitation to return to Concord.

Coach-of-the-year contender Payten is contracted until the end of 2023, but Sheens discreetly enquired about his availability.

“I asked Toddy how he was going up there,” Sheens told the Sun-Herald. “He said ‘fine’. I asked, ‘How is the wife going up there?’ And he said, ‘Fine’. We smiled and that was it.

“I didn’t have to ask Todd. Toddy knew what I was asking. He’s a very intelligent guy and we go back to when he was 17 at the Raiders.

“That wasn’t long ago. You ask me about what I was doing, well we certainly hadn’t given up on the idea of someone taking the club and running with it.”

Instead, Marshall has been anointed as the man for the role after completing his apprenticeship under Sheens. The Kiwi international only retired last from the playing ranks last year, but his long-time mentor Wayne Bennett was adamant it wasn’t too much, too soon.

“Oh, he’s experienced, believe me,” Bennett said. “He’s been coaching for a lot longer than you think he has been.
“He just didn’t have ‘coach’ beside his name, he just had ‘player’. He will succeed. He’s very good with his leadership and management around players.

“There’s no bullshit with him. He knows the game extremely well, he knows the people in the game. He might not know someone until he comes to the club, but he will know that personality very well.

“There’s a lot of fun in him, he doesn’t like doing sad.”

The Tigers’ succession plan has been ridiculed in some quarters, but it’s the same one Bennett employed at South Sydney and will again be used by the seven-time premiership-winner at Redcliffe.

“The problem with most clubs is they don’t have a plan,” Bennett said. “It’s reaction, reaction, reaction and we all know how that goes. The Tigers are in a pretty bad state, they’ve had a lot of coaches over a short period of time. It’s not ideal, it’s not what people want to see, and you have coaches knocking the job back that have never coached in the NRL, so that’s not a good sign either.

“Tim has been a great coach in his time and he’s still got passion for the game. You can put young guys like Benji around him. I think it’s a great decision they made, it will stabilise the club.

“Tim will be able to handle all the criticism. I’m going the same path at Redcliffe; I’ll be the punching bag when things are going bad. That’s fine. Tim and I are used to that, you can’t hurt us. You protect the young coach and get the club stable and on the right road and then your young coach can come in and have a pretty good run at it.”

Sheens only agreed to step back into head coaching the Tigers once Marshall and Farah fully committed to being his assistants. The 71-year-old rolled his eyes when asked if he was too old for the job.
“The energy of Benj and Robbie, they’re full of effervescence, and it’s not as if I’m out there playing,” Sheens said.

“The ageism thing annoys me. I’ve been involved in this business 50 years, I know what’s required. People can say what they like. They’ve said it about Wayne, too. Us two old farts ... there’s a finiteness about it. I won’t be out there in a wheelchair or walking stick doing it, but right now the club could do with a bit of experience.”

Brett Kimmorley is the interim coach and will remain in the role, including Sunday’s clash against Penrith, which will feature the inaugural Royce Simmons Trophy. The Tigers want Kimmorley to remain at the club.

Simmons, who is battling dementia, joined Sheens on Saturday, and loved the fact his old mate was back at the helm.

“Tim is the best coach I played under, the best coach I worked with, and his love of the game is still unbelievable - I’ve never seen a guy who lives for footy like he does. I think he’s the ideal person to put in right now,” Simmons said.
 
finnzo said:
You gotta hand it to club since we got knocked back from ciraldo there hasn’t been 1 leak about there plans of benji been head coach. The media would have been all over it im not sure how they kept it under wraps
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Interesting point. Does it give you an idea of where the leaks were?
 
I read where Cleary had Andrew Webster as defence coach while he was here.
At Penrith hes the attack coach...and theyre scoring more points than anyone
 
crazycat said:
I am checking out.

Yes we need to rebuild. Nope, not the Marshall + Sheens + Farah plan.

Our club cannot be inbred and inbred with people who have done wonders on the field but would probably be around anyway. Hire John Morris if you want a tiger.

As someone said above, Sheens should have taken over and added stability. not had Pappii want to run. Checking out till 2025
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This is what irks me.

Why make a song and dance about “checking out?”. Just don’t log on to the forum anymore and don’t watch Tigers games for a few years.
 
tigre said:
Farah has spoken. Via the daily telegraph:

Robbie Farah says he is ready to play his role as part of the trio who have been brought in to save the Tigers.

Farah will step up his involvement with the NRL side next season as a full-time assistant coach having worked with the squad on a part-time capacity in the past two years.

He will do so alongside Tim Sheens and Benji Marshall. Unlike Marshall who has clear ambitions to be a first grade coach, Farah said he was unsure if it was a path he wanted to pursue. He has been given the position for the next two seasons.

“The motivation is to work alongside Benji and Tim to get this club back to where it belongs,” Farah said. “There is no doubt it’s going to be a bit challenge. None of us are happy with how the club has performed.

“When the club approached me about going back into footy full-time it was something I had to consider. I have a lot going on away from footy and it’s something that I’ve enjoyed. But none of those businesses give you the purpose and get competitive juices flowing like footy does. Benji was 100 per cent committed to head coaching. For me I don’t know.”

Farah has spent time running the blue shirt for the Tigers and has transitioned into sitting alongside interim coach Brett Kimmorley in the box in recent weeks. He said Sheens and Marshall have a pretty clear mandate about the style of football they want to play.

“The game went through a phrase a lot of structured footy, wrestle but we’ve seen with the new rule changes the game has opened up,” Farah said. “The way Tim coached us was to be creative, confident and back our ability and play that Tigers style of footy. When it is done well it can be very productive and positive.

“For us we will be providing our players with the platform to express themselves and showcase their talents.”

The trio also want to ensure the best Tigers juniors stay with the club. Farah hopes their status in the game may also attract players to the club.

“We speak about the kids coming through and it is a similar crop to when myself and Benji were coming through,” Farah said. “There is no one better than Sheensy to nurture them and for us to learn. It’s an attraction for kids to stay and play under Tim, Benji and myself and when Benji takes over he will be a huge attraction for players.”
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The first paragraph says it all...."brought back in to SAVE the club""....

Funny part is all three played a part in destroying the club over the years....

But as a paying member I will see how all this pans out....hopefully better
 
Sheens talks with ABC Grandstand
www.abc.net.au

Sheens: "We just haven't got the points in us" - ABC listen

Incoming Wests Tigers coach Tim Sheens is under no illusions about why the team is struggling at the moment. He spoke with Andrew Moore, John Gibbs and his "adopted son" Luke Lewis about showing the coaching ropes to Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah and what their coaching philosophy is likely to...
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
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